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Quote from: Pmalek on August 29, 2021, 11:16:11 AM

It wasn't an admin in ReguluHr's case, but global mod hilariousandco made a short post when he unbanned ReguluHr after almost two years or waiting.

As I wrote, admins don't usually deal with these things, so I warned the OP that it doesn't make much sense to go in that direction - just as I warned him that ordinary mods don't have the authority to remove the ban, it's all in the hands of global moderators. The case you mention is more than clear to me, I only showed one single example where the admin personally intervened and removed the permaban in the case of plagiarism.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 29, 2021, 11:16:11 AM

I don't remember ChiBitCTy's case and if there even was a ban appeal thread.

See: Banned Account Question and [PERMABAN APPEAL] ChiBitCTy.

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Quote from: Lucius on August 29, 2021, 10:12:35 AM

The forum has only two admins, and since I have been on the forum (6 years), I have only witnessed once that one admin has publicly commented on the perma ban he has personally removed...

It wasn't an admin in ReguluHr's case, but global mod hilariousandco made a short post when he unbanned ReguluHr after almost two years or waiting.

Quote from: hilariousandco on November 26, 2020, 06:04:39 AM

I unbanned it.

I don't remember ChiBitCTy's case and if there even was a ban appeal thread. But he was another valuable member that got banned and later pardoned.

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Quote from: Lucius on August 29, 2021, 10:12:35 AM

The forum has only two admins, and since I have been on the forum (6 years), I have only witnessed once that one admin has publicly commented on the perma ban he has personally removed (bill gator case). So forget about admins who certainly don't deal with things like this, and also mods that can't remove your ban - only global mods can. Your case is under the jurisdiction of global mods, or rather in the hands of one of them who is most active on the forum.

Very limited bans because of plagiarism were handled later with softer restrictions (signature ban for 6 months, 1 year, 2 years) and temporary account ban.

Ban appeal needs time to be handled by global moderators or admins (rarely). First, they need to be online. Second, they have to go through reports, post history, checking for plagiarism on their sides. Second chance will be applied after very in-depth and careful investigation.

OP has to be very patient about this ban appeal. Make noise does not help. Being too hurry does not help. Your ban appeal topic is enough and you can bump it every 24 hours.

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Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 29, 2021, 09:10:29 AM

I found this post. So I hope mod or admins can re-check my account if they can see this topic. Wink

The forum has only two admins, and since I have been on the forum (6 years), I have only witnessed once that one admin has publicly commented on the perma ban he has personally removed (bill gator case). So forget about admins who certainly don't deal with things like this, and also mods that can't remove your ban - only global mods can. Your case is under the jurisdiction of global mods, or rather in the hands of one of them who is most active on the forum.

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Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 29, 2021, 09:10:29 AM

My allegedly plagiarized post is my first post.

It was posted in the Chinese local section. Unfortunately, because there are very few people in the Chinese section, I didn’t even get a reply after 3 months.That topic has been deleted so far. I can't give you the link.

I've archived the topic in which you made your first post: loyce.club/archive/topics/534/5342690.html.

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From the perspective of a novice, I think your contribution is much better than many people,I am sad to see your account is banned, I feel that the forum now seems to be constrained by a kind of public opinion.
I read you The historical posts of, your content proves that you are indeed a person who loves to learn, and your mistake is a mistake that many novices will accidentally make when they just enter the forum. If your account does not succeed in the appeal, I suggest you leave it. In addition to this,It is not necessarily only this forum that will give you value.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 29, 2021, 01:51:55 AM

Quote from: HaleyOccam on July 08, 2021, 04:03:49 AM

Satoshi Nakamoto is a high IQ geek from the encryption and decryption club.

Google translated from this article, titled "How to Evaluate Satoshi Nakamoto":

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A highly intelligent geek from the encryption and decryption club,

I have a feeling that if I understood Chinese a lot more of you would be banned by now.

Oh, spot-on my man!!! Did you report that post or what? Also, if anyone with some plagiarism-detecting skills far greater than mine could take a look at HaleyOccam's posts, you'd be doing the forum a big favor. I've got him/her on ignore (and I'd advise anyone who thinks Ratimov's alt ring thread is accurate to do likewise), but I'd rather not even see that account posting anywhere. And my guess is that the rot runs deep, i.e., if the main account got busted for plagiarism then the others are probably guilty of it as well.

Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 29, 2021, 09:10:29 AM

sir, I don’t think my post has made the forum worse.My allegedly plagiarized post is my first post.

Yeah, if your posts were your own they might have been good and might have deserved all the merits that were unfortunately scammed from users like me and plenty of others. The fact is that you used other people's material multiple times and only added references after you got an extremely kind warning.

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Quote from: Pmalek on August 29, 2021, 03:08:30 AM

The admins know the exact reason that you got banned and the report/reports filled against you. If they want, they will reply here with more info about what got you banned.

Users can get banned years after they posted something that was copy/pasted. So the fact that you wrote some posts, they remained visible for a long time, doesn't mean that you got banned for one of your most recent posts. In theory, it can be the first one you ever wrote. Admins usually react and assess reports sent by other forum members. If there is no report against you, no actions will be taken my admins most of the time.

Yes, I focused on the rules about plagiarism before I posted a topic.

Quote from: achow101 on May 14, 2019, 09:42:37 AM

Posts are reported to moderators who check out the report. If the poster needs to be banned, the moderator sends a ban report up to a global mod or admin. The global mod or admin handles all of the ban reports they get at around the same time. Either the admins or global mods don't need to check every account because they trust the moderators to have already done so, or they check quickly because every such report contains references and links to the plagiarism post and to the source text so checking takes little time.

I found this post. So I hope mod or admins can re-check my account if they can see this topic. Wink

Thank you for your reply, let me know more about the rules of the forum.

Quote from: suchmoon on August 28, 2021, 11:57:49 AM

Loaded question/straw man/false dilemma. Newcomers who plagiarize don't really contribute (positively as the the question implies). They make the forum a worse place. The user was not banned for contributing, the user was banned for plagiarism. And the user obviously had a choice - plagiarism is not the only way to get ahead.

That's assuming (very generously) that you are indeed a different person and not just trying to troll the shit out of this forum with a bunch of sockpuppets on your way out.

sir, I don’t think my post has made the forum worse.My allegedly plagiarized post is my first post.

It was posted in the Chinese local section. Unfortunately, because there are very few people in the Chinese section, I didn’t even get a reply after 3 months.That topic has been deleted so far. I can't give you the link.

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Quote from: HaleyOccam on August 28, 2021, 10:31:49 PM

You should probably consider taking your own advice:

Quote from: HaleyOccam on July 08, 2021, 03:37:22 AM

There is no need for an actor here, and you will not get an Oscar statuette here.

You are bad faith actor, along with your horde of new "pals." You and RainbowKun are obviously trying to manipulate the forum. For what reason, we don't know yet exactly but we imagine it will (or would have) manifested itself pretty soon.

Nothing about anything you do is natural human behavior. That's why you caught our attention.

Quote from: HaleyOccam on July 08, 2021, 04:03:49 AM

Satoshi Nakamoto is a high IQ geek from the encryption and decryption club.

Google translated from this article, titled "How to Evaluate Satoshi Nakamoto":

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A highly intelligent geek from the encryption and decryption club,

I have a feeling that if I understood Chinese a lot more of you would be banned by now.

WTF is the "encryption and decryption club" anyway?

No one wants to control the forum, and no one can control the forum. Everyone has independent free will, and everyone has independent judgment. In these two months, I spent almost all of my energy on writing, perfecting my philosophical thinking. I don't want to be an enemy with anyone, I just want to have a wide range of friends.

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Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 28, 2021, 02:05:40 AM

I have not been banned by the mod.I thank the reason why I am banned this time is not because of these topics.

The admins know the exact reason that you got banned and the report/reports filled against you. If they want, they will reply here with more info about what got you banned.

Users can get banned years after they posted something that was copy/pasted. So the fact that you wrote some posts, they remained visible for a long time, doesn't mean that you got banned for one of your most recent posts. In theory, it can be the first one you ever wrote. Admins usually react and assess reports sent by other forum members. If there is no report against you, no actions will be taken my admins most of the time.

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Quote from: HaleyOccam on August 28, 2021, 10:31:49 PM

You should probably consider taking your own advice:

Quote from: HaleyOccam on July 08, 2021, 03:37:22 AM

There is no need for an actor here, and you will not get an Oscar statuette here.

You are bad faith actor, along with your horde of new "pals." You and RainbowKun are obviously trying to manipulate the forum. For what reason, we don't know yet exactly but we imagine it will (or would have) manifested itself pretty soon.

Nothing about anything you do is natural human behavior. That's why you caught our attention.

Quote from: HaleyOccam on July 08, 2021, 04:03:49 AM

Satoshi Nakamoto is a high IQ geek from the encryption and decryption club.

Google translated from this article, titled "How to Evaluate Satoshi Nakamoto":

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A highly intelligent geek from the encryption and decryption club,

I have a feeling that if I understood Chinese a lot more of you would be banned by now.

WTF is the "encryption and decryption club" anyway?

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 28, 2021, 09:31:29 PM

If you don't like the lack of warmth, you're free to leave. You're also free to stay, but hopefully merit sources and other members will take note of Ratimov's thread and put most, if not all, of you on ignore so you don't progress to the point of being a bounty hunter farm.

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Your ridicule can't stop me from moving forward, John Denver, a soul singer who specializes in architecture (the ridicule made him a country music star). One can be confident, but arrogance is a shame.

You only represent yourself, you think too much.

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Quote from: HaleyOccam on August 28, 2021, 09:11:41 PM

What are you doing here?@pharmacist.

One of the things is busting account farms like the one you're in, though Ratimov can take the credit for linking far more accounts than I originally came up with.

Quote from: HaleyOccam on August 28, 2021, 09:11:41 PM

The Bitcoin forum is a forum without warmth.

If you don't like the lack of warmth, you're free to leave. You're also free to stay, but hopefully merit sources and other members will take note of Ratimov's thread and put most, if not all, of you on ignore so you don't progress to the point of being a bounty hunter farm.

Quote from: HaleyOccam on August 28, 2021, 09:11:41 PM

I will not say anything, especially to you, my last sentence: God will forgive everyone, even a wicked person, who are you? @pharmacist.

You just said a whole lot to me, and you can save the forgiveness for someone who needs it. If you think I'm wicked, you've got standards that are way too high for humanity.

Oh, I just wanted to put this out there for a laugh, Haley:

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If you are a man, choose a good industry, such as Bitcoin (recharge your faith and hold it for a long time).

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 28, 2021, 12:02:07 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on August 28, 2021, 03:43:14 AM

Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 28, 2021, 02:05:40 AM

@LoyceV thank you for your trust in me.

You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

This is what most newcomers don't understand: trust is a very fragile thing here, and speaking for myself, nobody here is a friend of mine no matter how nice I treat them. I might respect some members and even like them, but at the end of the day I don't know anybody here in real life and every member is just an anonymous forum personality. One slip up can lead to a neg being given or an exclusion from my trust list--and I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 28, 2021, 03:43:14 AM

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of participating in the autograph campaign.

You'll have to accept it, if that's the outcome. LoyceV isn't a moderator and therefore doesn't speak for the forum. Right now you're banned and can only post in this thread (or another ban appeal thread relating to your account).

Quote from: RainbowKun on August 28, 2021, 07:20:07 AM

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

Lol. That's all I have to say to that.

This kind of chattering argument has no meaning. The Bitcoin forum is a forum without warmth.

As the pharmacist said, I have no friends. What I do is not really express my heart. I am in this forum with a mask and black eyes. It's like a prostitute. Suddenly one day I am no longer a whore. The pharmacist will say, you will always be a prostitute. Don't change, and you can't change until the priest is next to you and tells you to rest in peace.

When you speak and do things are not from your heart, I don't know if you will really consider what is most beneficial to the forum.

Since trust here is not worthwhile, and trust is a very fragile thing, what are you looking for here? Sense of presence, participation, accomplishment? You are the birthplace of the biggest lie.

I will not say anything, especially to you, my last sentence: God will forgive everyone, even a wicked person, who are you? @pharmacist.

Satoshi Nakamoto is trustworthy. The Bitcoin forum is derived from consensus. You don’t value trust. What are you doing here?@pharmacist.

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Lol. That's all I have to say to that.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 28, 2021, 03:43:14 AM

Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 28, 2021, 02:05:40 AM

@LoyceV thank you for your trust in me.

You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

This is what most newcomers don't understand: trust is a very fragile thing here, and speaking for myself, nobody here is a friend of mine no matter how nice I treat them. I might respect some members and even like them, but at the end of the day I don't know anybody here in real life and every member is just an anonymous forum personality. One slip up can lead to a neg being given or an exclusion from my trust list--and I bet I'm not the only one who thinks that way.

Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 28, 2021, 04:29:17 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on August 28, 2021, 03:43:14 AM

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of participating in the autograph campaign.

You'll have to accept it, if that's the outcome. LoyceV isn't a moderator and therefore doesn't speak for the forum. Right now you're banned and can only post in this thread (or another ban appeal thread relating to your account).

Quote from: RainbowKun on August 28, 2021, 07:20:07 AM

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

Lol. That's all I have to say to that.

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Quote from: RainbowKun on August 28, 2021, 07:20:07 AM

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

Loaded question/straw man/false dilemma. Newcomers who plagiarize don't really contribute (positively as the the question implies). They make the forum a worse place. The user was not banned for contributing, the user was banned for plagiarism. And the user obviously had a choice - plagiarism is not the only way to get ahead.

That's assuming (very generously) that you are indeed a different person and not just trying to troll the shit out of this forum with a bunch of sockpuppets on your way out.

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I will raise time these days to sort out @kxwhalexk's account data for the past three months, please judge from friends on the forum:

Should such newcomers who contribute to the forum be directly banned?

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Quote from: kxwhalexk1 on August 28, 2021, 04:29:17 AM

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of participating in the autograph campaign.

My previous signature is only about my own social media

The exception applies if you're a very valuable contributor to the community.

But for most of the cases, plagiarism is usually permanent.

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Quote from: LoyceV on August 28, 2021, 03:43:14 AM

Typically, if a plagiarism ban is lifted, it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature.

I can accept it comes with a 1 or 2 year ban on wearing a signature. I can accept this punishment. Because I don’t currently have the idea of participating in the autograph campaign.

My previous signature is only about my own social media

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What you should have done after my reminder was check all your previous posts, instead of waiting for someone else to find more plagiarism.

Yes, this is my fault. I locked some topics, but ignored those articles that were submerged after 4-5 pages.I regret missing this opportunity.

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You got this wrong, I don't trust you (or most people on Bitcointalk for that matter).

If possible, I hope to win your trust with future actions

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Buying something from someone doesn't deserve positive feedback, because nothing was risked by the seller. It has nothing to do with the forum's feedback description: "You think that this person is unlikely to scam anyone.".

Okay, I will continue to slowly understand the trust system. Wink

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