Topic: [banned mixer], icopress, suspected of ponzi or exit scam! - page 2. (Read 883 times)

OK so it turns out it was over three years ago!    Not only that, it turns out the issue wasn't even really about "manipulating the DT system."

@digaran hope you learned a thing or two about why you shouldn't open frivolous flags based on non-evidence.

It's funny how you interpret facts. Now I see that you are an even bigger liar than I thought.

1. I haven't communicated with you via PM for over 3 years or so.
2. You added me to your distrust list after I left counter feedback to the feedback you left to Webtricks, after which (about a year or so later I did the same for other reasons).

But what’s even more funny is that, having actually written several dozen posts since 2017, I was a simple “member” who had only 10 merits and in fact my first post after many years of absence was dated September 21, 2020. This newbie, being a naive guy, contacted you on the issue of incorrect use of the feedback system (and I sent a copy of the letters to Loyce and several other guys).

It’s also funny that you, being a coward, refused to help me because you were afraid of retaliatory measures against yourself, while admitting that the red tag that I received was not justified. Although this quote describes this situation best.  

I give permission for @theymos to verify this is an extract of a PM from icopress (one of a series)

 
There's more where that came from.

So, let's summarize what Digaran managed to find out.

1. It turns out that I am a dollar millionaire (please tell me where I keep the money so that I can take advantage of this opportunity).
2. The DT system is under my sole control.
3. Somehow Timelord receives PMs from me, despite the fact that 2/3 years ago he blacklisted me.

Digaran, if you want to know my weak points, just ask me and I will tell you. 

Please read OP, I have edited it to include my reasonable concerns, in 1, 2, 3 on the bottom of the OP.

You can't edit Flags, and you can only link a Flag to a topic (not a post). Since you've withdrawn the Flag: case closed.

Well, lol seems like I posted the thread OP as reference, while I wanted to link to Tl's post on that topic, do I need to "delete" opinion in order to edit the ref link? I'm on it.

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Edit:
This is embarrassing, I can't edit the ref link, damn, I can't even post a second flag, guess this scar will remain there for years and everyone clicking on it would think I'm an actual troll. Such a sad development. And I feel ashamed to PM admin to fix the ref link pointing to this topic.

Now I need to put my tail somewhere and hit the road. I don't know why every time I wanna do something serious it turns into a joke. My fate maybe. 😂

The reference link for your Flag has nothing to do with icopress. There's another reason I Opposed it: I don't "believe that anyone dealing with icopress is at a high risk of losing money". I've been in his campaigns for 6 months now, and haven't lost money.

You should withdraw your Flag. You shouldn't Flag someone "because someone else says something about a PM".

Which one is it going to be: am I "at high risk of losing money", or am I "being fed"? You can't pick both answers.

I  am not as involved with the DT system as I used to be, seeing as what I know about Theymos.   Icopress has worked with me a couple times in the past without no issues.   I rank my interaction with him/her higher than your third party complaint.  

Post the flag.  No need to ask public opinion.

Helena, good girl, listen.
I publicly reveal shady behaviour so everyone can have a reference, if some people are dangerous to have on DT and other DTs take no action to remove them, then admin will have the power to blacklist them manually if he sees fit, my job is to provide intel. That's all. Whether anyone cares and follow up on it, is not my concern.  Besides, now both icopress and Tl are under investigation, they'd behave decently just to avoid giving me more reasons to prove my case further, that alone is a good mechanism in place.

Nah.

If DTs not do something e.g. leave feedback, supporting/opposing a flag, etc, you will not get any punishment for that, as long as you not making multiple mistakes, you're fine.

Theymos isn't in favor to kick someone from DT network, except you can find the proof if someone is trusted by sock puppets.

I don't think this is correct, DT network ≠ reputation. Someone who're not a DT can be trusted i.e. DT isn't the only way to evaluate someone whether it's a scammer or legitimate.

Man my man, the first time ever I read your post was on my thread about 1meow(1rogue), or it was on a related topic to symm if I'm not mistaken, and you from the beginning started off about me, you kind of remind me of Citb0in, so when you start attacking someone without having any prior interaction history with them, it would make it too obvious for you to be an alt, (of someone regardless).

Oh, I know exactly how trust system works, if DT's don't act on something important, then the only solution would be for them to be blacklisted by admin, and the flag will also serve it's perfect purpose, not to mention a trust feedback would seal the deal later on.

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On a side note, I remember suggesting theymos to pay all staff members more than enough to make them not needing any active participation with alt accounts.  So I apologize  if any of the staff members have their alt enrolled under icopress managed campaigns, believe me I have nothing against you, and I hope that I never have said anything offending to any of your alt accounts inadvertently.

Okay, so unsurprisingly, you haven't figured out how the trust system works, otherwise you wouldn't be creating flags to prevent certain people from being in DT.


And then you woke up.

Please do note, I am not claiming either of them to be scammers, I just want them blacklisted from DT election for good, otherwise I have nothing against their livelihood.

As a matter of fact, icopress offered me a spot on a campaign, if I was a shady person, I would have moved my tail for him and sneaked into one of his managed campaigns by sucking up to him. This case has a great potential, 6-7 figures kind of potential, and that is where I come in, you guys could play your parts by "busting" bounty cheaters and small time scammers, which I truly respect(because that requires to spend time and a lot of efforts), but when it comes to serious stuff, don't mixup things. Please.

I don't know what you're wasting your time for. But at least now you don't get paid for bullshitting.


Some of us believe that God has no influence in the world of the living, in any case he could have set the initial rules so that everything would work and wait for us after death but no matter how much you pray to him you are not going to get people to listen to your bullshit.


Some of us don't hate you, in fact we laugh a lot at your bullshit.


Be careful, lest a right to honor lawsuit be filed against you.

 

I would say you don't have any case at all. This is literally the only thing he said in the thread you linked as your flag reference:


You're basing the flag on Timelord's hearsay, and now asking for PMs to be published after? None of this has anything to do with icopress' trustworthiness or ability to uphold trade agreements.

What compelled you to do this in the first place? If its not simple trolling, then I really don't understand.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63350408


Since I have posted a type 1 flag on icopress, I would like to make my case stronger, so do you have the PMs you claimed you have received from icopress, or did you lie? If you lied then I should apologize to him and withdraw my flag for wrongful accusation and then post a flag on you for the same reason as wrongful accusation and subtle extortion attempt.

If you have the PMs mentioned on the quote above, please share them here, since they are no longer private after you publicly talked about them, by keeping them a secret, you'll have the upper hands to manipulate icopress and blackmail him in the future if you haven't already received the hush money.

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Yes, yes, I know icopress is literally the hand that is feeding most of the DT members, and since they don't believe that God is the one providing for all, they won't support this case. And I love being hated for telling the truth, it works as incentive that I'm on the right path.

Ps, I go after big fishes with dangerous potentials.

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Edit:
1- The reason as to why I decided to post the flag is related to the fact that icopress is being accused by a legendary old timer for trust system manipulation, and the fact that I think they control the account of [banned mixer] , that service owner never replied to some concerning questions, these are 2 red flags so far, link to the mentioned ANN thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63331035

2- Then another red flag was raised when he offered to sell a fully functioning copy of [banned mixer] services to me for 17 BTC as if they own and control everything to a point where they have the freedom in offering such deals on behalf of their "clients", after all he is just a campaign manager and not a service representative on Bitcointalk, right? Link to said post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63394403

3- A few days ago, Timelord2067, made a mistake, he revealed a bargaining secret by telling that icopress has contacted him several times to collude and manipulate the trust system, if it's true, then consider this the third red flag, which you can read about it on the quote above.

Thank you for reading.