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Topic: Barclays centre using the blockchain!!! - page 2. (Read 1272 times)

legendary
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Why would they even need a blockchain to move money between themselves?

it's unclear to me as well.  even if you have a (semi private) public ledger,
it doesn't need to be a blockchain as the units are fiat debt instruments,
not scarce digital assets like Bitcoin.

Even if they consider their fiat debt as being valuable it makes absolutely no sense to use some home-brewed "Blockchain-technology" for asset transfer if it does not offer superior security.
The Bitcoin blockchain offers high security because it is (for now) a highly decentralized multi-node network. If some banks set up their own blockchain, there's no security benefit, because there are the same entities involved in securing the chain as would be involved in a direct transfer. A direct transfer is much more efficient than setting up a blockchain.

I get the impression that it's currently in vogue doing something "Blockchain" without even having a proper use case for it. Sadly, banks can't just use Bitcoin, because this would demonstrate that they're becoming obsolete... Cheesy

ya.ya.yo!

well yes I agree with you, but the security is integral with what is being secured.  you can't really secure fiat debt as there is no real substance to it.  iow, the banks can always either dispute or agree with someone else's balances, versus Bitcoin, there is no negotiation. you either have the private keys or you don't.
legendary
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Why would they even need a blockchain to move money between themselves?

it's unclear to me as well.  even if you have a (semi private) public ledger,
it doesn't need to be a blockchain as the units are fiat debt instruments,
not scarce digital assets like Bitcoin.

Even if they consider their fiat debt as being valuable it makes absolutely no sense to use some home-brewed "Blockchain-technology" for asset transfer if it does not offer superior security.
The Bitcoin blockchain offers high security because it is (for now) a highly decentralized multi-node network. If some banks set up their own blockchain, there's no security benefit, because there are the same entities involved in securing the chain as would be involved in a direct transfer. A direct transfer is much more efficient than setting up a blockchain.

I get the impression that it's currently in vogue doing something "Blockchain" without even having a proper use case for it. Sadly, banks can't just use Bitcoin, because this would demonstrate that they're becoming obsolete... Cheesy

ya.ya.yo!
legendary
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June 23, 2015, 06:32:09 PM
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Why would they even need a blockchain to move money between themselves?

it's unclear to me as well.  even if you have a (semi private) public ledger,
it doesn't need to be a blockchain as the units are fiat debt instruments,
not scarce digital assets like Bitcoin.
legendary
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June 23, 2015, 06:11:09 PM
#8
Why would they even need a blockchain to move money between themselves?
newbie
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June 23, 2015, 06:02:49 PM
#7
They would be essentially verifying themselves.  Not sure how robust that'll be.
legendary
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June 23, 2015, 05:48:09 PM
#6
They're looking at blockchain technology, which is quite different from BTC itself. I believe Barclays and a pool of the world's largest banks could create their own blockchain, to move money between themselves, and only between themselves.

Oh that may work... However how do they go about verifying the transactions so no shenanigans take place?
legendary
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June 23, 2015, 05:46:03 PM
#5
They're looking at blockchain technology, which is quite different from BTC itself. I believe Barclays and a pool of the world's largest banks could create their own blockchain, to move money between themselves, and only between themselves.
hero member
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June 23, 2015, 05:28:30 PM
#4
well all know the potencial of the blokhain and bitcoin is just together one depends the other and vice versa
hero member
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June 23, 2015, 05:11:17 PM
#3
Interesting news, but I am afraid that they might just snatch blockchain away and leave bitcoin alone. But again, using blockchain for something other that cryptocurrency skeleton is song of the future as they said that they think the blockchain won't be adopted anytime soon. Because of regulatory and scale issues, it can take banks years to adopt new technology, let alone cutting edge software.
For know a sole interest in blockchain tech is fine and will help to promote bitcoin.


You can't leave Bitcoin alone when you use the blockchain. If you invest in the blockchain you can't just have that "I don't care about bitcoin" mentality because if bitcoin fails ->blockchain fails -> your business fails.
legendary
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June 23, 2015, 04:28:36 PM
#2
Interesting news, but I am afraid that they might just snatch blockchain away and leave bitcoin alone. But again, using blockchain for something other that cryptocurrency skeleton is song of the future as they said that they think the blockchain won't be adopted anytime soon. Because of regulatory and scale issues, it can take banks years to adopt new technology, let alone cutting edge software.
For know a sole interest in blockchain tech is fine and will help to promote bitcoin.
sr. member
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June 23, 2015, 03:51:42 PM
#1
I just saw an recent article of Barclays centre in Brooklyn New York experimenting with bitcoin's blockchain. Because they also the traditional banking is less convenient than using the block. Blockchain is fast and have low cost. Here's the article that y'all can read. I wonder if this can potentially happen in every large commericial centre accross North America. What are the pros and cons for bitcoin, if it can have all these opportunities to be used in every place? Will that increase the value?  Smiley
http://www.businessinsider.com/barclays-bitcoin-startup-safello-blockchain-fintech-2015-6
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