bASIC customers - Are you quitting or switching? - page 2.

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Quote from: Bogart on January 14, 2013, 10:25:16 PM

Quote from: GenTarkin on January 14, 2013, 10:01:05 PM

In otherwords, yet another fucking scam...

If it is, it's not a very good one.

A good scam doesn't give anyone their money back, unless it's so they can scam even more money.

Unless you got lucky when you put all the BTC deposits in one wallet and the price risen 20% and take your chances on the CC payments over 90 days old. Minus Dave's wages, there's enough left over to feed a family for a while without having to eat leftovers.

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Quote from: GenTarkin on January 14, 2013, 10:01:05 PM

In otherwords, yet another fucking scam...

If it is, it's not a very good one.

A good scam doesn't give anyone their money back, unless it's so they can scam even more money.

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In otherwords, yet another fucking scam...

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Quote from: Bogart on January 14, 2013, 06:37:19 PM

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Quote from: Bogart on January 14, 2013, 05:04:30 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 14, 2013, 04:25:46 PM

I urge everyone not to overreact. If everyone cancels their orders, I can see Tom having trouble paying everyone back. Keep this in mind... I'd rather get a late ASIC than nothing at all and no refund.

At this point I think the chances of bASIC delivering an ASIC product ever are near zero.

IMO, The only way bASIC can succeed is if Tom steps down and hands the project off. I don't think he's going to do that.

Why do you think the project is even salvageable?

It may well not be salvageable. Even if a team with the right talent, resources, and credibility were to step in immediately and Tom were to give full cooperation, succeeding would be an uphill battle.

And that's only if the chips are usable, which is a very big if.

Seemed to me that Lucas (iirc) was about as clear as it gets. Had a meeting with Tom and found nothing/zero/nada/ziltch of any value. Certainly no 'chips' regardless of their 'usability', and probably nothing more than some drawings on some napkins. Sounds like there is nothing to salvage, and even if there was, the performance of the last few days besmirched whatever name Tom had.

If/when another skilled engineer besides the Avalon guy enters the mining space he may as well start from scratch. Although I could well be fooled, I would trust the new PR guy (buzzdave?) on the basis of his forthright suggestion to go straight to charge-backs, and because he seemed to have been able to get a few people some of their BTC back.

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Ill be switching to whoever at least shows working product....
I wont order till they be shipping, this preorder scammy shit is BS. Now, I have no idea if I will be gettin back my BTC from bASIC or not since theyve become shady now...Im so fucking pissed. This is turning into another scam and fast..

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Quote from: Nemesis on January 14, 2013, 06:14:34 PM

Quote from: Bogart on January 14, 2013, 05:04:30 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 14, 2013, 04:25:46 PM

I urge everyone not to overreact. If everyone cancels their orders, I can see Tom having trouble paying everyone back. Keep this in mind... I'd rather get a late ASIC than nothing at all and no refund.

At this point I think the chances of bASIC delivering an ASIC product ever are near zero.

IMO, The only way bASIC can succeed is if Tom steps down and hands the project off. I don't think he's going to do that.

Why do you think the project is even salvageable?

It may well not be salvageable. Even if a team with the right talent, resources, and credibility were to step in immediately and Tom were to give full cooperation, succeeding would be an uphill battle.

And that's only if the chips are usable, which is a very big if.

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Quote from: Bogart on January 14, 2013, 05:04:30 PM

Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 14, 2013, 04:25:46 PM

I urge everyone not to overreact. If everyone cancels their orders, I can see Tom having trouble paying everyone back. Keep this in mind... I'd rather get a late ASIC than nothing at all and no refund.

At this point I think the chances of bASIC delivering an ASIC product ever are near zero.

IMO, The only way bASIC can succeed is if Tom steps down and hands the project off. I don't think he's going to do that.

Why do you think the project is even salvageable?

Why do you ppl trust this "good man" with this ASIC project. Hes not an engineer (technically dumb if i recall back when he started mining venture). Sure he can hire engineers but be honest to yourself, this is not assembling some off the shelf parts.

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Quote from: CoinHoarder on January 14, 2013, 04:25:46 PM

I urge everyone not to overreact. If everyone cancels their orders, I can see Tom having trouble paying everyone back. Keep this in mind... I'd rather get a late ASIC than nothing at all and no refund.

At this point I think the chances of bASIC delivering an ASIC product ever are near zero.

IMO, The only way bASIC can succeed is if Tom steps down and hands the project off. I don't think he's going to do that.

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Quote from: Bogart on January 14, 2013, 04:48:03 PM

With Avalon a week from shipping, I'm just hoping I don't pee my pants in anticipation waiting for it.

I hope the only reason for Avalon being silent and not having a demo is because they are busy packaging working products.

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I had placed orders with Avalon and bASIC.

Now I just have the Avalon order left. bASIC refunded me, mercifully.

With Avalon a week from shipping, I'm just hoping I don't pee my pants in anticipation waiting for it.

If Avalon delivers and works as promised, I imagine I will be ordering more of them in their next batch.

(I learned about mining ASICs too late to get a reasonable position on the BFL boat, so did not pursue them.)

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I stayed as long as I could, but this is very upsetting to me. Refund requested. Now it looks like BFL and Avalon.

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Update it with the option to say you have ordered from those 3 you listed.

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I feel bad for defending Tom as long as I did on these forums.... because of me some people might of invested in bASIC instead of Avalon/BFL and are now screwed.

I urge everyone not to overreact. If everyone cancels their orders, I can see Tom having trouble paying everyone back. Keep this in mind... I'd rather get a late ASIC than nothing at all and no refund.

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Quote from: Isokivi on January 14, 2013, 04:11:11 PM

Id like to see an option "I wont preorder anything, will see later."

Done.

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Id like to see an option "I wont preorder anything, will see later."

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Quote from: Tinua on January 14, 2013, 03:33:51 PM

What happen with "I will stay with bASIC" option?

This has been added.

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~~Can you add a "I'm not a bASIC customer, but I'm interested in the results" ?~~

NM I now see the "View Results" option. Tongue

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Quote from: Tinua on January 14, 2013, 03:33:51 PM

What happen with "I will stay with bASIC" option?

I can add that, but it would seem that if the leader of the project cannot show up for one of the most important meeting of BTC FPGA's life, seems kind of pointless to keep up hope.

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What happen with "I will stay with bASIC" option?

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Quote from: fernarios on January 14, 2013, 03:16:18 PM

Nope... But you would add a choice like "I will order from Avalon after new chinese year year".

Done.

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