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legendary
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December 11, 2012, 04:37:38 PM
#29
Responses like this are exactly why Tom didnt feel comfortable posting pictures of the prototype, or power figures (even a guess), or a rendering. You cant please everyone and there will always be someone who bitches. I agree that they could be better, but I would rather devote time into the physical product rather than making fancy renderings and pictures to plaster all over net.

Yeah they could be prettier, but it's nice to see movement. As to the molex issue, I believe bASIC is moving toward a PCIe connector as a single molex would be pretty close to maxed current wise. This is a good choice IMO and the barrel connector is another option for powering the unit.

The design is very compact and efficient IMO, though it could obviously change significantly prior to shipping.

You an I are looking at different pictures, clearly.

If you look at the MMQs vs BFL singles, the MMQ had a lot less board components than the singles did/do. Not saying that the bASIC will be the same way but the MMQs worked just fine....

If I had to guess, I'd say they might use something like the Delta POL convertor that they used on the MMQ.
legendary
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Merit: 1005
December 11, 2012, 04:23:06 PM
#28
Responses like this are exactly why Tom didnt feel comfortable posting pictures of the prototype, or power figures (even a guess), or a rendering. You cant please everyone and there will always be someone who bitches. I agree that they could be better, but I would rather devote time into the physical product rather than making fancy renderings and pictures to plaster all over net.

Yeah they could be prettier, but it's nice to see movement. As to the molex issue, I believe bASIC is moving toward a PCIe connector as a single molex would be pretty close to maxed current wise. This is a good choice IMO and the barrel connector is another option for powering the unit.

The design is very compact and efficient IMO, though it could obviously change significantly prior to shipping.

You an I are looking at different pictures, clearly.

If you look at the MMQs vs BFL singles, the MMQ had a lot less board components than the singles did/do. Not saying that the bASIC will be the same way but the MMQs worked just fine....
hero member
Activity: 1078
Merit: 502
December 11, 2012, 03:19:59 PM
#27
I'm going to fire up "Paint" and build my own asic device Cheesy


Mine will be circular.. "patent pending"
legendary
Activity: 952
Merit: 1000
December 11, 2012, 02:58:20 PM
#26
Here's design of BTCFPGA custom-ASIC:


Pretty cool, isn't?!  Grin
I don't see any difference between your schematics (I just love that word) and the renderings in the OP. You better be careful or Tom will sue your ass for copyright infringement or something like that!
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 02:42:45 PM
#25
Here's design of BTCFPGA custom-ASIC:


Pretty cool, isn't?!  Grin
So where can I order your design and when do you say your going to ship?  I hope you say December, HA, LOL  Love this post.....


Nice design..

Curious why the chips are different sizes in the drawing?



(not serious) Smiley
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 02:40:19 PM
#24
If true to render, this would be the first ASIC (of any kind, bitcoin related or otherwise) I've ever seen that had JTAG.
At least one structured ASIC manufacturer I've seen actually requires JTAG for their own internal testing purposes, believe it or not. Besides, even if you're not planning on using it to test the chips themselves, you can always use the boundary scan chain to test the interconnects on the PCB they're mounted to.

Unless everything is on the chips, is this design not missing some stuff?
Yeah, it appears to be missing a few minor things like buck converters to actually power the chips. Nothing terribly important Wink
sr. member
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December 11, 2012, 02:31:39 PM
#23
Clearly. Smiley

Last spec update I saw had board size at 7"x7.5"x2.167" for 72Gh. Given that we're talking about 16 90nm ASICs on that board I believe that to be very reasonable, but YMMV.
legendary
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This is not OK.
December 11, 2012, 02:23:01 PM
#22
Yeah they could be prettier, but it's nice to see movement. As to the molex issue, I believe bASIC is moving toward a PCIe connector as a single molex would be pretty close to maxed current wise. This is a good choice IMO and the barrel connector is another option for powering the unit.

The design is very compact and efficient IMO, though it could obviously change significantly prior to shipping.

You an I are looking at different pictures, clearly.
sr. member
Activity: 386
Merit: 250
December 11, 2012, 08:56:45 AM
#21
Here's design of BTCFPGA custom-ASIC:


Pretty cool, isn't?!  Grin
So where can I order your design and when do you say your going to ship?  I hope you say December, HA, LOL  Love this post.....
sr. member
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December 11, 2012, 08:37:45 AM
#20
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please keep in mind at the time these renders were done they were incomplete.
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 08:24:43 AM
#19
Unless everything is on the chips, is this design not missing some stuff?
legendary
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DARKNETMARKETS.COM
December 11, 2012, 08:18:15 AM
#18
Here's design of BTCFPGA custom-ASIC:


Pretty cool, isn't?!  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 11, 2012, 07:35:12 AM
#17
[Speculation, opinionated commentary below]

To alliterative their potential mental damage. I believe the rep decided to pull some random object from the shelf and asked everyone to guess what it belongs to.

Some played along for a page or two trying to guess what the plastic looking object looked like to them. Sort of like an inkblot test but with their minds and emotions. But then the apparent madness set in as their human reasoning started to react (to the delay of course).

You have to wonder how the rep treats his customers....it's almost like they are a hampster or lab rat when he did that. I thought they would have balked at it at first, but then they played along for about a page.

Strange isn't it?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 11, 2012, 07:29:34 AM
#16
Atleast some movement, drawings is good Smiley Lets see what BFL will draw next Cheesy
They will draw criticism from their most hardened supporters.

Take a look:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html

Crazy (as in sensible) comments going on over there.

Which comment is the sensible one? Is it the one who says the delay is a great chance to order more ASICs with granny's christmas money? Or is it the one where they guy thinks there's a conspiracy and the fab is holding back ASICs to mine with them themselves?
Some dealt with the news better than others?

I think some just lost their mind. Perhaps they have been driven insane by the waiting. I believe there is a thread on their forums for exactly that....I forget the link at this time.
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 07:27:18 AM
#15
Atleast some movement, drawings is good Smiley Lets see what BFL will draw next Cheesy
They will draw criticism from their most hardened supporters.

Take a look:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html

Crazy (as in sensible) comments going on over there.

Which comment is the sensible one? Is it the one who says the delay is a great chance to order more ASICs with granny's christmas money? Or is it the one where they guy thinks there's a conspiracy and the fab is holding back ASICs to mine with them themselves?
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 11, 2012, 07:18:12 AM
#14
Atleast some movement, drawings is good Smiley Lets see what BFL will draw next Cheesy
They will draw criticism from their most hardened supporters.

Take a look:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/bfl-forum-miscellaneous/519-10-dec-2012-bfl-asic-update-4.html

Crazy (as in sensible) comments going on over there.
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 07:02:40 AM
#13
I love how the fans apparently push down the air onto the heat sinks, creating a nicely effective pocket of heat as soon as that thing sits in an enclosure. Wouldn't want those poor Asics to be cold now.
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 06:55:08 AM
#12
Atleast some movement, drawings is good Smiley Lets see what BFL will draw next Cheesy
hero member
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December 11, 2012, 04:17:45 AM
#11
Thought I'd repost these here:


Source: https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0
I actually see it as very good news. I just wonder if these are complete renders. (As in detailed)

The good news I can gather from their renders is that the solution Tom has gone with is extremely simple scalability. His board is the same in every direction. As in a uniform design. So if he wanted to, he could probably just make a bigger board and scale his hashing power in clusters.

If he would put in some controlling logic like BFL did with their boards (for the tethered/interconnected boards of the mini rig), he would be able to scale his hashing units to an incredible degree.

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please keep in mind at the time these renders were done they were incomplete.

source: first post of the linked thread.

legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1003
December 11, 2012, 04:08:07 AM
#10
Thought I'd repost these here:






Source: https://www.btcfpga.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0
I actually see it as very good news. I just wonder if these are complete renders. (As in detailed)

The good news I can gather from their renders is that the solution Tom has gone with is extremely simple scalability. His board is the same in every direction. As in a uniform design. So if he wanted to, he could probably just make a bigger board and scale his hashing power in clusters.

If he would put in some controlling logic like BFL did with their boards (for the tethered/interconnected boards of the mini rig), he would be able to scale his hashing units to an incredible degree.
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