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legendary
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The first decentralized crypto betting platform
November 11, 2023, 09:06:34 AM
#46
hELLO DINER, yes i can, should i do it here or on that new thread off mine ?
I think on that new one, right ?!

cuz this one too messy alr ?!

Well, if you are sure I think it will be better on the new one but you'd better first read this:

That's because they're not under CEG [casino e-gaming] , their license is under CIL [Curacao Interactive Licensing] , as shown on the bottom of their website, on the seal of validation



hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 502
November 11, 2023, 07:26:07 AM
#45
Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

Hey Jannn can you share screenshots or any proof of what you are saying? I'm thinking of opening a reputation thread myself about BC GAME, but it would be important to be able to prove what you're saying.

hELLO DINER, yes i can, should i do it here or on that new thread off mine ?
I think on that new one, right ?!

cuz this one too messy alr ?!
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
November 11, 2023, 03:52:03 AM
#44
Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

Hey Jannn can you share screenshots or any proof of what you are saying? I'm thinking of opening a reputation thread myself about BC GAME, but it would be important to be able to prove what you're saying.
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
November 10, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
#43
You should update your OP or create separate topic about the result of your case on CasinoGuru and other arbitrage services because this is crucial on establishing your case.

I think something like that should be done. BC.GAME is active on the forum and should say something here but has not done so, having received several accusations recently. At the moment he has a good reputation but he wouldn't be the first to take advantage of it.
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 502
November 10, 2023, 10:32:00 AM
#42
THE TRUE DEFINITION OF '' TL:DR '' IS = I'M A FUCKING USELESS LAZY FAGGOT PIECE OF SHIT  ''

IN MY OPINION....
ANYWAYS

HERE'S THE SCREENSHOT SHOWING THIS ASSHOLES LOST THE CASE NOT ONLY AGAINST ME, BUT AGAINST @earlypaco




AND WE ARE BOTH OWED AROUND $10000.00 + USD BY THEM, '' COMBINED ''

MYSELF AROUND $3248 AND EARLY PACO OVER $7000

THE CASINO GURU STAFF HAVE PROCLAIMED THAT THEY SHOULD '' HONOR '' OUR WINNINGS, AND PAY THEM
BUT THEY ARE NOT GIVING A DAMN FUCK ABOUT THE COMPLAINT ANYMORE AND SEEMS THAT THEIR INTENTION IS TO WALK AWAY WITH THE SCAM, THEN !

copper member
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November 10, 2023, 10:25:49 AM
#41
FUCKING SCUM ASSHOLE CASINO PIECE OF SHIT

LOST THE BATTLE ON CASINO GURU AGAINST ME AND EARLYPACO AND STILL DECIDING THAT IT'S BETTER TO WALK AWAY WITHOUT PAYING
AND CARRY THE SHAME OF BEING CONSIDERED A = SCAM

RATHER THAN PAY US OUR MONEY

FUCKING THRASH CASINO SON OF A BITCH

You should update your OP or create separate topic about the result of your case on CasinoGuru and other arbitrage services because this is crucial on establishing your case.

Upload picture on talkimg.com and post it here directly in bbcode format to make your thread easy to understand since the whole OP content is on TLDR format. BC.game is still operating here without any repercussions about their action against your case so you should present properly the result of your case as evidence about their ignorance for their responsibility.

I personally believe that you should have that bonus since it’s on your balance and not BCD.
hero member
Activity: 1120
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November 10, 2023, 10:20:04 AM
#40
FUCKING SCUM ASSHOLE CASINO PIECE OF SHIT

LOST THE BATTLE ON CASINO GURU AGAINST ME AND EARLYPACO AND STILL DECIDING THAT IT'S BETTER TO WALK AWAY WITHOUT PAYING
AND CARRY THE SHAME OF BEING CONSIDERED A = SCAM

RATHER THAN PAY US OUR MONEY

FUCKING THRASH CASINO SON OF A BITCH
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 502
I'm in the same boat as you are, if my complaint with CasinoGuru doesn't get resolved, Ill start looking elsewhere to find some honest party interested in putting a stop to these scams.

https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to

Hey earlypaco, the people from CGB board commission have replied to my email about the situation stating there's nothing they can do about this motherfucking scammers.

Here's their response, check:

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Thank you for your email.

 

Unfortunately, the Curaçao Gaming Control Board (GCB) is currently not able to handle your request.

 

We are actively in the process of modernizing our gambling legislation and setting up our online gaming policies and procedures. As soon as we will formally start handling complaints, we will announce this on our website. We expect this to be the case in the first half of 2024.

 

We kindly point out in advance that the GCB will not investigate all complaints. For example, the GCB does not have the authority to adjudicate disputes between the complainant and the accused party and to settle claims or award damages.

 

Only if a complaint indicates a violation of the applicable regulations, the supervisory task of the GCB entails that this will be investigated further.

 

For the time being, we kindly suggest, that at all times you seek legal advice for any claims you may have vis-à-vis the license holder or other party or parties. We refer to the following page that contains a list of law firms established in Curacao that may be able to assist you:

http://www.dutchcaribbeanlegalportal.com/legal-contacts/law-firms?sid=102:Law-Firms-Curacao

So i think i'm gonna move this forward and hire a competent law firm to pursuit my fucking winnings + a dividend from legitimate embarassing damages.
I'll just wait for the resolution by casino guru first before pulling the trigger with this.

hero member
Activity: 1120
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I'm in the same boat as you are, if my complaint with CasinoGuru doesn't get resolved, Ill start looking elsewhere to find some honest party interested in putting a stop to these scams.

https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to

yeah brudda if this casino guru do not resolve your case send a email to this niggas here: https://www.gamingcontrolcuracao.org/contact
they are '' cc'ed '' on my case already from the curação egaming CEG that attached them to the convo, from this email here > [email protected]
and they should reply me within 7 business days (some days has passed with no reply yet but need to wait more, let's see)
newbie
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I'm in the same boat as you are, if my complaint with CasinoGuru doesn't get resolved, Ill start looking elsewhere to find some honest party interested in putting a stop to these scams.

https://casino.guru/bc-game-casino-player-s-withdrawal-blocked-due-to
full member
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CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”

Not 100% sure what this mumbo  jumbo means , (seriously why cant they write in simple words)

But im getting the idea that BCGAME license from curacao might have expired in 2021 since the pdf that they have linked in their website is dated 2021
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 502
Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

So they simply said they had a licence from Curaçao, when it was false. I wonder how many more are like this, because every now and then new casinos appear that don't have problems to deposit and then they hide behind licenses and regulations to put problems for withdrawals. They run a signature campaign that has been put on hold and there have been other accusations, which al together seems to confirm that it is 100% scam.

Yes, so now CEG has said that it's forwarded my case to '' other '' commission board, that SHOULD have competent authority to handle and to be able to move my request further as per this text on below

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CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”


Recommendation: handle the referred matter within 7 (seven) days after referral


CEG recommends under the CCRG 2022 that the authorities provide the said individual with an answer within 7 (seven) days after referral, as, for AML/CFT purposes, CEG is not authorised/has not been engaged to determine, in compliance with article 4(5), CCRG, whether the message contains a description of events that may qualify for criminal referral of either an unusual structure or act or conduct by player (a participant as meant in article 1(bo), CCRG 2022), operator (a person as meant in article 1(bj), CCRG 2022 and/or both.


If you are seeking assistance in handling this matter and/or information on available subscriptions for complaint handling/ICHS outside of CEG’s Ecosystem, please contact your CEG B2B representative/contact person directly and include the ICHS ticket number as mentioned in the subject line of this email.

Best regards,
Curaçao eGaming | ADR Department

so let's wait and see i'll update shortly once i hear something back again
legendary
Activity: 1358
Merit: 1565
The first decentralized crypto betting platform
Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol

So they simply said they had a licence from Curaçao, when it was false. I wonder how many more are like this, because every now and then new casinos appear that don't have problems to deposit and then they hide behind licenses and regulations to put problems for withdrawals. They run a signature campaign that has been put on hold and there have been other accusations, which al together seems to confirm that it is 100% scam.
hero member
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As said, CEG does offer ICHS, a non-mandatory service that is available free of charge to all players asking for support pertaining to IP Operators within the CEG-Ecosystem. However in this case, CEG cannot offer ICHS free of charge and/or without prior engagement. CEG has determined that it has not been authorised to make any determinations in this case, as the potential complaint pertains to an IP operator that exists outside of the CEG-Ecosystem. The brand, as meant in article 1(i), CCRG 2022:


(1) may be regulated by a licence holder, other than CEG; or

(2) may have in the past been regulated by CEG, however not at the time the said message was received and/or the operator engaged with another licence holder without proper deboarding with CEG; or

(3) may be unregulated and it is offered as a falsification as meant in article 2(s), CCRG 2022 of an original under the false appearance that it has obtained the rights from the licence holder or any third party to do so, such as however not limited to breach of intellectual property rights and the use of a facsimile aimed at creating the false appearance of being the original; or

(4) may be unregulated as meant in article 2(a), CCRG 2022.


In order to check/re verify whether an IP Operator is regulated by CEG, please use CEG’s licensee register: https://www.curacao-egaming.com/public-and-players/authenticity


CEG has recently made its services available for parties outside of the CEG-Ecosystem, however as it has not been engaged and/or mandated by the government or other licence holders to do so at this time and/or an existing subscription may have ended, the potential complaint is hereby introduced to the appropriate authority for further handling, in compliance with article 4(6), CCRG 2022: “The licence holder shall report to any regulator, prosecutor or public authority it deems appropriate, any structure, act or conduct of which it does not have the possibility authority or responsibility, mandate or authority to make a determination as described in article 4(5), including however not limited to complaints that do not relate to a sublicense that is not regulated by the licence holder.”

Opened a scam report complaint with this motherfuckers on CEG directly (Curação Egaming) where they are SUPPOSEDLY registered officially/licensed...
and to my surprise only to discover this casino is a 100% scam/unlicensed casino.

As CEG informed won't handle my case against them because the casino in question does not hold a license in curação at all.
as can be seen on this quote from their reply on above quote block.

lol
hero member
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im curious, why do you think towers is a game of skill and not chance ? since every hand is unique and results dont depend on previous/next hands

Because the tower game is similar to zener cards / card guessing games (which can thus be TRAINED/IMPROVED) different than just pressing buttons on a slot machine and '' hoping lady luck '' would help you.

It's methods used by " thought " training schools.

refer to examples:

1) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_39TDX_r8gY
2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTgHq9qPGr0

Where essentially the object in question is hidden from sight and it takes a good deal of '' guessing '' on the individual (high use of brain)
 to make the correct '' prediction '' of which tile/square is the correct answer.

This requires a lot of brain effort, and trained guessing skills.
Certainly, the tower game can be played RANDOMLY like a game of chance, as well.

But a '' trained '' human on guessing skill, can excel easily, on this kinds of games, and thus beat them/lower the house advantage significantly and eventually reach some fat payouts/jackpots this way; provided the game is FAIR and have no cheating mechanisms into play (which most casinos sadly employ as they are not here to lose $$$ despite their bullshit excuses about PROVABLY FAIR system, which is a lie  Cheesy)

A trained individual would have above average probability of predicting the outcome correctly (with odds of like 1:30 of reoccurring or better, for example)
and this is more than enough to beat the game once or a few times, putting the player in significant profits.

On tower, to reach the top and hit a jackpot, one does not even need to be super skilled on guessing cards/guessing games.

One only need a SMALL DEGREE of advantage/skills (in a '' predictable '' way/repeating basis, not just a random lucky run but on a test of at last 100x or more rounds)  in order to be massively profitable and hit one or several jackpots in the proccess...
full member
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so, rohang was right all along.

yea ofcourse, BCGAME has been changing the TnC's but theyre always with hidden catches like this.

nice selection of '' skill '' based games (like tower, cards, etc)
that depends on skills rather than chance, and can be beatable.


im curious, why do you think towers is a game of skill and not chance ? since every hand is unique and results dont depend on previous/next hands
hero member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 502
I would never deposit in a casino like this in my life

Yeah 100% right, i'm also not playing on this motherfuckers anymore......

By the way let me ask: You mentioned not playing on '' crypto '' casinos anymore.

So, which casino are you using this days ?
Could you name a few where you been playing if you don't mind ?

I'm always trying to find new casinos WORTHY of being played at, and with a nice selection of '' skill '' based games (like tower, cards, etc)
that depends on skills rather than chance, and can be beatable.

And: As a last resort based on a argument similar to yours (of it being illegal) i'll try to open dispute directly with CEG (Curação Egaming, their regulators) as soon as my claim dispute finishes, on casino guru, then....
legendary
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so, rohang was right all along.

In case anyone gets lost amidst all the shouting from the OP:

<...> did you think about it before depositing ?
I have not deposited since the new bcgame update there  and  i never will

you needed to read their bonus rules

https://bc.game/help/bonus

"• The maximum winnings that will be paid out resulting from Deposit Bonus will be 100% of the bonus amount. Any winnings exceeding this amount will be forfeited."

Thats why they forfeited  your balance, but i guess they owe u 30 $ more (129 payout and not 99)

Deposit bonuses are almost always with hidden catches like this, casinos dont give free money  to people period.

<...>

yea no, casinos are the ones hustling people with these deposit bonuses

I believe such a rule would be illegal in regulated gambling in Europe. But since the casino has a Curaçao licence, arguing about the legitimacy of the rule is basically a waste of time.

So if you deposit $100 to get a bonus of another $100, it doesn't matter if you win $100,000, they will only let you withdraw a maximum of another $100? I would never deposit in a casino like this in my life, and I haven't played in crypto casinos for a couple of months now, but you have to be very careful with these rules, because casinos tend to copy them.
legendary
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Dear Adam





The player made a deposit of 129.215591 USDT and received an equal 100% bonus, resulting in an additional 129.215591 USDT.



Key points from the deposit bonus terms include:

- Players must use their real funds before tapping into the bonus.

- After fulfilling wagering requirements, the maximum amount that can be withdrawn from the bonus is equivalent to the bonus amount itself (capped at $10k), meaning 129.215591 USDT in this scenario.



Here's a breakdown of the events:

1. The player utilised their entire deposit, reducing it to $0.

2. Gameplay then continued using the bonus funds of 129.215591 USDT.

3. The player then met the wagering requirements.

4. At this point, the player's account balance stood at 3379.132111 USDT.

5. The excess 3249.91652 USDT was subsequently deducted.

6. The allowable amount, 129.215591 USDT, was left for the player to use normally.



While the sequence aligns perfectly with our deposit bonus terms, I recognise the potential confusion from the term "withdrawable funds" in the popup. Although the balance was technically "withdrawable", the terms imposed a cap, resulting in the addition of only 129.215591 USDT.



Best regards,



BC.GAME
so, rohang was right all along. that being said, seeing that it was shown on the screenshot that the withdrawable amount is $3k+ I am not surprised that you thought that was the amount you would be able to withdraw(even me would probably think that would be the amount I'd be able to withdraw) they really need to fix how much exactly a gambler will be able to withdraw on their "rollover details" pop-up when it comes to deposit bonuses, they even admitted themselves that what shown on the rollover detail could cause confusion.
hero member
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HERE'S THEIR LATEST RESPONSE BELOW TO THE CASE ON CASINO GURU:
IF CASINO GURU DOES NOT RESOLVE THIS, WHICH MOST LIKELY THEY WON'T I'M GONNA OPEN A OFFICIAL DISPUTE WITH THE CEG DIRECTLY AGAINST THEM FOR MY WINNINGS.

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I understand your feelings on this matter. However, it is crucial to thoroughly go over the terms and conditions for each promotion in any casino, as they might vary based on the specific offer. If anything seems unclear, our live support is always available to clarify any doubts. It's worth noting that there was an option to opt out of the bonus as well.



We always aim to provide a positive experience for our users. While I regret that this situation didn't meet your expectations, the bonus was applied in line with the terms. Unfortunately, we can't do anything further regarding this specific case.



Best regards,



BC.GAME

'' PETTY '' SCAM CASINO MAN !
WITH FUNNY ASS BONUS LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
DOES NOT WANTS TO LOSE EVEN $10 BUCKS, THEY JUST WANT TO STEAL / TO WIN.


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