Topic: [BCT FACT] Bitcointalk was originally on Bitcoin.org but ... drama (Read 1261 times)

Sirius created Bitcointalk.org, but that's not the original forum. It's not the forum that satoshi created. Satoshi's forum was hosted on bitcoin.org. After that it was moved to forum.bitcoin.org I think. Bitcointalk.org is the third board and the one we use today. Unless there were more in between that I forgot about. To complicate the issue even more, sirius isn't the person who came up with the name "Bitcointalk". Jeff Garzik did. Theymos mentions that in one of the quotes I shared in my previous reply.

I read some of those comments and I think I'm starting to believe that sirius is a satoshi because satoshi is known as the founder of bitcointalk.org. In the post, Sirius admits that he is the founder of bitcointalk but this is really confusing. satoshi was pretty good at hiding until recently, but people have always been curious about who he really is in real life and his activeness on the forum to this day. I also want to know do you believe Sirius is Satoshi? 

Yes they are doing quite well in covering their tracks by exposing them in public to gain some popularity to scam some fools who believe in their shit talks.

You forgot sirius. He was the Bitcointalk administrator before theymos. Theymos made his way up the ladder to get to where he is now. He was a Global Moderator and then he became an admin when he was needed.


You might also want to read this interesting interview with sirius.
Satoshi knew how to cover his tracks, so even if one of these guys is satoshi, they would know how to cover theirs as well.

Sadly, this is not what you think. According to what I could research, he is referring to Jorg Jolt being arrested in Germany for claiming to have a 250k btc wallet, and for starting an "investment" fund that would use 60% of the proceeds to purchase mining equipment. This was something that happened in 2019.

It does not appear that CSW was arrested as part of this investigation.

They all are Faketoshi and the one arrested in Germany was trying to fool people under Bitcoin pension project and have scam them of $2.1 million and was charged under fraudulent case.Those who claims to be founder of bitcoin have no valid proofs for it and Craig Wright tops the list of fake ones.

Craig Wright - Australia
Jorg Molt - Germany (2021)

Wish I was time traveler 

Hopefully this dude is a time traveler .... and meant the arrest of Craig Wright.

Otherwise, just like you, I would like to receive clarifications, since I do not remember such a precedent. 

Arrested?
Please do elaborate..

Found this thread from another one but I think it's a good place to ask this question.
There were times when different "Satoshi Nakamoto" claimers were investigated and arrested, one happened in Germany, another one in Australia and the story goes on. Since it's obvious that satoshi created the forum, was posting here, gave access on forum to other members, etc, because of these reasons, was there ever an attempt of investigation on Theymos, Cyrus and other old and famous bitcointalk members?

The rewriting is going on full swing and you are a favorite target for the gang when it comes to the whole Old devs VS Core devs drama. Nobody has the time and the willingness to go through the actual history. What is especially disappointing in this regard is that r/bitcoin has become a wall of memes and stupid arguments.
Any newcomer would find r/btc to be much more "informative". It doesn't matter if their narrative is wrong. These public logs that you mention can be a treasure trove to solidify the truths of the matter. We should be doing this in mission mode. I am sure a lot of us would be interested in helping you out.

Regards

Yes, it's possible, but difficult.

And there is so much discussion that without the ability to search text it's impossible to find anything.

But here you go:

https://web.archive.org/web/20140703182335/http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2011/06/11#l1307836061

https://web.archive.org/web/20140703182232/http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-dev/logs/2011/06/12

Errr no, it didn't work like that.
You have to remember that was a time when they took screenshots with Polaroid cameras.

Okay, it's really interesting, you did a great job !

But suddenly, since it was public discussions, is it not possible to find them on sites such archive.org ?

Do you still have the links of these discussions ( Even if they are dead ) ?

All that text is from the #bitcoin-dev IRC channel on freenode, which has been the most active discussion venue for Bitcoin development since Satoshi stopped participating (well, now in #bitcoin-core-dev due to other interesting history).

It used to have public logs all over the internet as matter of channel policy: We considered the public logs important for openness and transparency, so while other bitcoin channels forbid public logs and preferred banning over quieting disruptive users,  #bitcoin-dev embraced public logs and strongly preferred quieting to bans.  If not for the public logs I would have consistently pushed that all important discussions get moved to the mailing lists.

Unfortunately all the public logs are offline now and it's not entirely clear to me why. I've found it particularly concerning because the loss of these logs is extraordinarily helpful for people who are dishonestly trying to rewrite the political history of Bitcoin. (e.g. they claim stuff like I only started participating in Bitcoin in 2014 or 2015 or that everyone always agreed that the blocksize limit was temporary and would be completely eliminated-- stuff that the discussion shows isn't just wrong, but is an absurd opposite of the truth).

I've been working on unifying logs from a number of people to recover a complete set (any given person has holes in their logs because of periods where they were offline...).

Hello,

Thank you for this very interesting story that tells us more about the history of the forum

A question comes to me, where do these messages actually come from ?

Some cool theymos quotes..


Not so revolutionary anymore eh?
That post would be against the rules now..

Wow. thanks for posting this. I realized this conversation started mere day before i registered here  [or there actually] 

bitcoin have come a long way since then. what a journey

Thanks for this, awesome, I included a link in the Bitcoin Prehistory thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53158866

That was Fun.. Love the vibe..Here is the Sequence of Events if you want a shorter version. I highlighted some of the moments i found interesting:

1. Maxwell expressing concern over trolls in old forum


2. Cocern over Devs facing legal uncertainty (Guilt by association)

3. Jeff asks Theymos about new domain

4. Jeff and Theymos argue whats official

5.ROFL @ That was only temporary


6. Jeff asks Theymos to move the "illegal activity" posts. Theymos sticks to the policy.

7. Theymos warms up to the idea with his  Centralization vs Decetaralization remark.