Topic: Be careful when lodging into any hotel - page 2. (Read 567 times)

Newly wedded couples are supposed to concentrate on love making during honeymoon, and not business. You and your wife spoilt the whole fun 

I don't think that it is the hidden camera that the hotel workers used in stealing your wife seed and wipe all the fund. But probably she used a wallet that is genuine (fake wallet) and the creator of the wallet transfer everything to his wallet. Because all these things, I always tell people to use trusted wallets and not to migrate anyhow. Seed Phrase is not something she would be opening any how and any place she goes. And also using a public connection is another dangerous thing because even if nobody wiped you fund virus might have done that since you connected your wife phone to the hotel WiFi. Public WiFi is not secured, there are a lot of malware in public network.

yes that is might the real problem here, maybe he connected to wifi hotel address and if this true is not just seed phrase that lose maybe other thing also in danger.

and yeah you just simple transfer all the asset the new address than move all seed phrase the total fee maybe less than $10

Do you guys have to go everywhere with your seed phrase or private key? That's odd and feels wrong to me, knowing it's importance. It's the key to a treasure and should be kept as such.  Wallets comes with passwords authorisation after creation and would do okay to just send your coin where you need it to be, get to trade it if you want.

Besides, hotels aren't supposed to have cameras in there lodging apartment. The lobby and passages perhaps but, rooms, No. You could sue for that.

Honestly, apart from trying to save data I don't know what other excuse anyone would've using public WiFi. For someone to have enough cash to lodge in a hotel I don't think something as minute as saving data should be their problem. They can easily afford it. Regrettably, people have information they don't even make use of until bad happens to them. OP ought to have known better not to use public WiFi. I'm really scared shit using any WiFi that's not generated by my other device. As a rule, I avoid browsing in an area with open WiFi even with my data. If I'm out and I spot an open connection, I avoid like it's leprous.

That's not safe, OP started that he is from African country, could be the worst part of Africa where the law has no meaning, have you ever visited a lawless country before? You can go missing and you won't be found like ever, if he decided to walk away it means taking action is not safe.

There are lots of risks involved and potential attack vectors when connecting to a public WiFi, from man-in-the-middle attacks to loading malware on to your device. It's best to avoid public WiFi altogether and use your own mobile connection.

We don't know that because both of the wallets OP talked about are closed source, so they could be sending the seeds anywhere and you would have no idea. Other closed sources wallets have been caught sending unencrypted seed phrases across the internet (for example, Coinomi sent seed phrases to a Google server).

One lesson from your story is never to open any wallet when you're not at home because we don't know anything suspicious is around us.
I think some hotels may have installed hidden cameras to find out about their visitors' activities.
But actually, it has violated the privacy rights of visitors in the hotel or that place because the hotel installed hidden cameras without the visitors' consent.
You can report it to the authorities so the hotel can be monitored or even penalized for violating user privacy.

You should be more careful to read what people write above. The OP clearly wrote that he is from an African country. 
OP, did you have a good amount of money in your wallet so that the hotel management could risk their name for her? In addition, you write that you came to the room and were very tired. Could this work against you? Your wife could be inattentive and make some mistakes, and using public Wi-Fi, I think, could also play a cruel joke on you. 
I was the one who got their social media passwords stolen while using public Wi-Fi. Since then, I prefer not to trust them.

Well it's just an accusation the hotel isn't 100 percent guilt yet, until perfectly proven. Although I think you should also fear blackmail if there are hidden cameras in the room then it may have caught sensitive compromising details of you or your wife or even both.

I hope you take this matter seriously and simple things can help us out like I conduct all my crypto-currency business at home, if you have a good schedule of your time and discipline it's very easy. Make all transfers, and transactions at home or places very convenient with less threat. Maybe you and your wife have learnt good lessons with this event.

Another thing to is to use a VPN.  A lot of these hotels use no encryption and anybody can connect, including scumbags and scammers and gain credential in clear text.  IMHO a VPN is a must regardless as it also keep your ISP from tracking everything and then selling this information to marketing and advertisement firms.

I'm so sorry for your loss, but honestly, I'd be more concerned about the camera inside your room. While it sucks that you lost your coins, a recording of you and your wife by some sicko sounds way worse to me. Your privacy is much more important than money. Sometimes, it might not even be the hotel planting the cameras, but some previous sick guest who rented the room. As others have already suggested, it's best to avoid accessing your wallet in public places or networks. It's better to be safe than sorry. However, I could never have imagined being screwed over in this way. Last month, I lost some XRP due to a fake Google Sheets extension that installed itself. Scammers never fail to impress me.

What the hotel wifi network would have made to her, even if she was connected to it, I don't understand. No wallet sends its seed to internet or to any network. If one would do it it would be already empty. Nowadays almost all traffic is encrypted through HTTPS/TLS protocols so even if one evil maid would be spying the wifi network, she wouldn't see anything. The most dangerous threat is not always the one we think. And I wouldn't recommend anyone to bring outside his home any wallet with a critical amount into it.

It could also be that your wife's device where she entered the seed had malware. Does she use crypto regularly on that device? Did she create any wallet or enter any seeds on that device previously, especially recently?

But regardless of what happened, it's still a good advice to be wary of your surroundings when you do operation with seeds. Maybe in the future there will even be cases of crypto heists where people would get robbed in their own homes as attackers would install hidden cameras into victims rooms to take a picture of their private keys.

If you are so sure that they have nothing on you then walking away from trouble is the best, I will like to know which country you are from but I guess you aren't ready to discol that, if I were in your show I will at least report to the police just in case, but since you are sure of your actions well no problem.

This is nothing new, the first thing I would check in any motel/hotel is a hidden camera, it's very important, some people are so evil-minded and dirty that they plan to have a video of couples making out, imagine, they can even use this against you if care is not taken, I am not trying to side a part but the loss of asset might not even be from the hands of the hotel workers, anyway we learn every time.

Making multiple posts in a row is against the forum rules, you don't have to reply every user individually, you can merge all your replies to every individual user in a single post of yours.

Well, i am sad to know that's the situation where you come from, but i am also from an African country and 'common' people do win court cases everyday, but since you said nothing explicit was recorded by the hidden camera, then it is all good, and it might be a better option to just basically let sleeping dogs lie.

The camera in the room is a breach of privacy, certainly the people behind the camera where not just after your wife's wallet seed as they wouldn't have known that you she was into cryptocurrency just by looking her, they probably set up the camera in the room to capture something more most likely her private activities. The hotel deserves to be investigated and shut down as that is clearly against the rules of hospitality especially for a room you paid for where your privacy is supposed to be priority. In all, the moral you can learn from this story is that you should never let your guard down even in areas or places that you think is a private space.

Nothing else was recorded because we were so exhausted when we get back to the hotel, we slept off straight away, also I couldn't find any hidden camera in the bath room which would have raised some alarm already, thanks for your concern.

Police case? Where I am from the law can be bought with money, I am not a rich person to win this if turned to a case but thank God nothing else happened.

As for the wallet it's real, not the fake one, I started my crypto journey years ago and we were together through out the journey, I thought her all that's need to know.


Really I don't know that some cameras can't be detected this way, sigh, but it's all well and Good, I am grateful that we did nothing in private in that hotel, if not I will be in worries right now.


It was actually my first time using a hotel, if not for the wedding festival I am not the type that you can see in a hotel, mind you the country that I am from this isn't something new and with high corruption going on I can't do what you asked of me because I can't win no matter what, I am from African country but I've learnt my lesson.

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No she never connected to the hotel wifi, you don't get it, she had enough internet data on her phone, likewise me myself, I think we are been spied on because the second camera was right on top of the bed, if you lay on the bed and press your phone the camera will pick every thing you doing on your phone, I was able to understand this as the camera is well placed, if that camera have zooming then it's possible.

I am not surprised with this. This issue has been lingering for many years already. I just do not know if there is anyone that was able to prove that cameras on such private rental spaces/room.

@OP, is there really any camera technology like what you have described? Regardless, I think the reason why the assets have been stolen is probably because your wife connected with the hotel's wifi when she accessed the wallet while revealing the seed phrase.

Just to ask, can't you track where the assets have been sent?