Topic: [Beaware] There is a highly skilled and active Telegram scammer who knows you. (Read 378 times)

You guys will drop your Jaws when I will write about what I discovered two days ago. I can now confidently tell that on Bitcointalk there is a group of scammer who work together and whatever they make, they share in between them. They study their target very well and every text they send, they create opportunity to scam their target multiple times. Today I have some work to do so I can not write the entire experience. But I am glad that I was not scammed anymore, there was a good possibility for me to get scammed again from the same group of scammers.

It's more than that now. I will try to write about it soon.

Cheers,

I am still a bit confused about how the scam happened.

Let's take it step by step how I understood it:
The scammer created a group chat in which he added himself, the person he was impersonating, and you. He was then successful in tricking you into believing that the real user (who you know and trust) needed some money and a reason why you should sent it to them. You believed that the person you trusted was asking for the 0.019 BTC, so you sent it to them. In reality, you sent the bitcoin to the scammer. 

Is that what happened?

It's new to me as well. But I assume it works only on PCs and when Telegram is on full screen. I am not sure, as Royse did not explain how it works, but I guess there are some tricks. Apart from that, I am curious how that scammer knows so well about him and his clients. Either he was in a group when Royse was talking to his clients or he was one of the closest people to Royse.

If a scammer knows so well about the person they are going to scam, it becomes kind of easy to trick them. If a scammer can manage to scam people like Royse who have been working online for a couple of years, then they would be able to scam us as well. 

I was talking to a well wisher who is following this scammer from long time. We are suspecting it's someone from TG inside. Otherwise there are no way for anyone to know what subject we are talking with each others and the scammer targets its victim precisely following the subject.

I checked my device history and could not find any suspicious login. My current device is safe (at least I think it is) from keylogger too. Mind it that it's not happening with you and me or only some others, there are many who are victim of the same scammer. It only means that someone from TG inside is doing all these targeted scamming.

That's a mystery. I have recently contacted with Royse777 regarding this and realized the scammer collects enough information/contacts before they try the scam. It was my surprise that scammer knew 3 of my contacts from shuffle and tried to scam all of them impersonating me.

I know one guy who asked for shuffle admin's telegram to solve an issue regarding casino. I haven't shared his tg with anyone else. Maybe he is doing all these, maybe not. I'm really in confusion.

I and many others now can suspect that this scammer is from Telegram inside. It could be an ex telegram official or current official who is working in telegram. There are no other way to know private information or at least some information that were not shared in public. Someone can guess about something but that guess can not be very specific and live.

I added it on my bio. I also added a warning for any new member who will join my Telegram group. More and more people need to know about this scammer and may be someone can inform telegram official about it too so that they can launch investigation to find the scammer.

Nice to hear you were lucky not to fall for this scam!!

Btw, so how is it that these guys are knowing your contacts of business because these aren't people that are disclosed to the public... Unless these people start with those funny messages in the official chat group of who do I contact for marketing purposes etc and when directed to the right person they now execute their scams and impersonation...

I suppose besides the Admins don't PM you first, I think bitcointalk PM authentication should help clean this mess, unless chat history exists then one can keep the conversation going.

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Report sent!

Please report this scammer.

It looks like scammer is maintaining consistency. Now he is creating groups and asking loan, as the excuse he is using the recent scam he pulled from me.



To surprise he is contacting with users who are actively in contact with me. I do not understand how he is knowing the information.

Can this be someone who lift Telegram team and now targeting telegram members, he must have an access to read information between users. Without knowing information how is he targeting members, why telegram is not banning this account?   

exactly same method of impersonating was tried on my Telegram account few moths ago,

bot or account that is admin in this group and can be invisible, so when he replies in group it shows this group picture as his, and if they setup it to look same as what we have in our account and name it also the same way, then it start to look exactly as targeted account,
additionally they invite the person. so you are physically in that group and if/when finally not online they invite the victim and try to scam pretending to be you

hope is clear

luckily it was total failure because each approached person was so surprised that i ask for loan that they refused (best friends   )
others wanted to help but first tried to confirm it right away in DMs or here on forum, and this is how we always should behave, calmly check everything, don't rush tomorrow is also a day
later i sent messages on all private groups i am member to inform people about this

edit
now reading this thread i see few comments from other members that also interacted with this scammer, i am sure they are talking about me because all started after I asked for help with some translations exactly in Royse Telegram group,
I also have written about it there after the scam attempt to warn everybody

for sure this is the place to look for that scammer in Royse TG group

Yeah, that's the common thing scammers do. A telegram account without username, and they will copy the username and other details of the one they want to impersonate then put it on their bio. Once you visit such account it will really look like the original account, until you click to chat which is the only way to one.

The one with Royse seems new to me, which i still cant grasp on how it works and how possible scammers can do — renaming a group and completely invisible.

Scammer tried to scam me last year using your name. He DMed me using your Telegram name and tried to get me to join a group, but I was careful enough to avoid his trap. I immediately informed you about it via DM on Telegram.

In fact, scammers use Telegram constantly to create different tricks, anyone can easily fall into their trap if they are a little careless. So everyone should always be alert. Because the admin of any group will not ask for money from the front, or will not ask to join a group without posting any notice in the group.

I'm sorry for your loss but the scammers are trying their best to make us fall into their traps. I have been contacted by many scammers on Telegram but when you're sure about the way how scammers act then you can understand them quickly.

That scammer was quite skilled that he/she scammed someone like you who's already quite good at detecting such scammers. We all should learn a lesson after reading this thread that the scammers can do many things to make us fall trap to their scams but we should try our best to not fall for their traps.

We can't do anything against that scammer but I hope that in future most of us will be alert when we see such type of scammers. Thanks for making this thread and sharing that scam experience to the community, and once again I'm sorry that the scammer was successful in scamming you with his/her malicious tactics.

Something similar happened to me though I was lucky enough that the amount was small. The scammer had a perfect execution of his plan which trapped me. Last week, someone impersonated me to one of my clients, luckily he was able to identify the scammer.

I saw this version of a scam last year as well.
Did some translation and proofreading for a user from this forum and some guy impersonating him and a 2nd account added me to a group chat.
Then asked me for. small loan to pay the 2nd account something he was owed and my reward would be some % which would be payed back the next day or something.

It was quite sophisticated and the telegram handle looked like the real one, not sure how this guy did it. Anyway, I didn't send anything and the original person I worked for also confirmed it was not him but some guy impersonating and trying to blackmail him.

Fun fact though, it all happened first through Royse's telegram group channel cause the guy looking for translators asked  in this group and I also replied to it days before. So the scammer saw the connection and tried his luck.

Shady people!

Thanks, Royse for posting it here for awareness, this scheme is new for many of us here and is a warning that scammers will always devise a way to scam people, and Telegram is one of their playgrounds to manipulate, I Hope Royse can regain the money that was a loss.

Like NotATether I will never ask for money on Telegram you can message me here to verify, I think this should be a rule to message here if anyone is asking for money if he has an account here for verification.

Hijacking this thread to let everyone know that I will never ask for money on Telegram.

If you see a Telegram message from "me" asking for some, then it's not me.

I'm sorry about what happened to you, everyone has to be careful with whom they share their information and always verify on different channels of communications if it's about customer-client relationship transactions. It's very possible that the scammer/s did tracked everything you do from time to time and recorded it so they can plan it well on how to scam you. This time, you'd be stricter with every transaction that you're going to do even if they're the most reputable and trusted people whom you know. This will serve as a lesson for everybody, not only for managers but even for normal members like me. I hope that you recover soon from this loss, Royse.

Firstly, Im sorry for your loss. This experience serves as a reminder to everyone that regardless of your experience or you are thinking you will never get scammed. Believe me, there are scammers out there who are exceptionally manipulative and smart. I have had a few experiences myself that still in my mind as an impression to this day.

I believe the method through which you were scammed is the same to the topic [1] I previously created along with @wwzsocki. Basically, the scammer gathers information about you, then creates a group on Telegram, inviting you as a victim alongside the original owner. This group is given the same name as the original profile. However, the scammer blocks messages and hide the group from the original account. Then he contact you using the owner's Telegram group. When you check the group members, you will only find two accounts: the original member and yourself, while the scammer operates behind the group’s name and will seem like you are only two while there are three people in that group.

[1]: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-new-way-of-scamming-in-telegram-5449834

I was in a situation like this a couple of times while working on a crypto project. The scammer pretended to be my boss and asked me to pay the advertiser, saying he would compensate me later. But then, when I clicked on his profile, I noticed nothing unusual because the handle was similar. Then again, when I was about to write him a private message, I noticed I had not texted him before. But I am sure I talk to the project owner every week. Fortunately, I was able to catch them, and I wasn't scammed. I am sorry for your loss, Royse; even though it gives you another lesson, the loss is big compared to the lesson.