Topic: Becareful with telegram wallet! (Read 423 times)

You got that right man, I think telegram is not a place to save your assets rather is a place where you interact with different people just like social media. However creating of wallet in telegram is a very big risk, I think someone who is with his right senses will never think of storing his assets in a telegram wallet. we have a lot of trusted and reliable wallet to store our coin, I'm pretty sure that nothing happens to those wallet, I think is only someone who does not know what he's doing that will choose telegram wallet over all this trusted and reliable wallet's either.

Telegram! this name itself to me anytime I hear it, I don't get rest of mind because of a lot of shits that i have undergone. Telegram itself is full of scammers, i am a victim. Although, I don't have much knowledge about it but the little transaction i did with them, some of these transactions, i fell into the hands of scammers. since then, anything that would let me associate with them especially their wallets, I have to think and rethink again and again Up to hundred times. for me to be sure if it is guaranteed.

I think the best way to use it is just for communication and passing of messages and information. but anything related to savings of coins, I am not there. It has happened to me before and will not be making sense if it should repeat itself again. Especially when you said that their customer care service provider is very difficult to reach. If God forbid one fall victim of any duping related issue, and urgently in need of their customer service assistance, what would you do? When already they are known to be so difficult to reach? You see! that's a very big problem. So I think the very way to operate with them is just to communicate and passing information. And even if you must do transaction, you have to be extra -extra careful.

Another charge to experience mistake, sorry for the loss, it's my first time seeing the use of the telegram for having a wallet, this platform is use most likely for socials, and can be used as a tool for storing too an image or other information if you don't have another choice, but storing of an asset with the use of the telegram I guess its a big no, this is not meant for. We know how the information is scattered on the internet, and most of the users binned their active numbers in their socials so possible a direct attack. That's another enlightenment to invest in a good security and wallet.

The old battle was with sim swapping, to gain access to peoples assets, and now that a good blockchain called Ton is using telegram as their main based wallet, they are giving more power to scammers to start going after people through their sims, I will never get into Ton unless they made their wallet available else where.

Or maybe if telegram start allowing users to registered a telegram account using email account and not sim cards, this is the most stupid thing to do.

Possible bad events

1. You wake up one day and your sim card is no more working.

2. You somehow lost your phone.

3.  Thieves working in network provider centers knowing about sim link with telegram accounts and the existence of TON network, a good way to hit the jackpot for them.

A real decentralized crypto project supposed to give users their revoveery seed without it having any relationship with users sim card, but since its running on telegram its a big turn off for me.

We need to be very careful about the telegram Wallet and I don't think I could ever put my money there since anything could happen.
Telegram wallet is not the best for me and I don't use them because it does not have any privacy. Anything could happen and your account could get ban without even knowing what could be the problem.
We need to be wise and always put our funds in a wallet than using to use social media to store it.

For starters, they have to learn to customize their Telegram account settings, and prevent scammers to reach in communication and avoid automatic downloads files, videos.

Telegram Scams
Disable Automatic Download
Do this if you don't want to be dragged to different telegram ICOs
Some Telegram tips for newcomers in the crypto community

Well for starters, telegram is definitely not a place that anyone would even think of doing anything aside from its communication purpose because the app has given himself a reputation that befits the abuse of it. Telegram is currently a ground hole for scammers and alot of them are very active finding and coursing for their next naive victim. If I had been the one seeing this then I would probably first have a wrong view about and probably even abandoned it as well.

I have a question here please...., Can ones telegram premium account be bann? Most people made this mistake out of ignorance. It's another lesson for us just not to be so careless with our fund.

I think we should wait a little for these types of apps especially when they launch these types of high sensitivity platforms on their apps. Seeing this from telegram is hard to believe but as you're saying that it had happened so it's alarming.

Actually we can't doubt telegram's intentions here as it's one of the high traffic messaging platforms but rather it could be a technical fault. As they have launched a new feature so the bugs will come around for sure and with time they'll be tackled and solved. There should be an option to apply for the case of your colleague. Go ahead and apply for it and I hope for a positive response from telegram.

of all the wallets, why do so many people choose telegram as a place to store their crypto, don't they think that at any time their telegram account could be banned or restricted by telegram? it's very funny to see how people innocently save and transact with ton on their telegram without knowing the fact that sooner or later it will be restricted by their government. no need to risk your money to buy ton and save it in your telegram account. just buy bitcoin and store it in your wallet, it is much more secure and trustworthy to own bitcoin compared to obscure tokens like that.

That's because when registering for a Telegram account we can use virtual numbers that we can get for free from various countries. it's the same as other applications like WhatsApp.
but using a wallet from Telegram without security in your Telegram account would be very stupid. You can set a lock for your Telegram account. So people who want to take over your Telegram account won't have it easy if they don't have your account password key.

You have had this experience, hopefully, you realize your mistakes and don't repeat them in the future. There are more suggestions for using a better wallet, hopefully, you find the best one for you.

Generally, telegram is a social media platform that scammers love so much because how good they are there when it comes to scams and fraudulent activities. Everyone in this forum will always advise newbies against telegram because they can easily get scammed.
Not just a fake telegram app, even the original one is not safe with any of your asset not just crypto assets because telegram cannot be trusted.

Talking about telegram generated wallets, I think it is a bot wallets that helps users to buy coin easily to avoid network congestion, but most times, it is temporary wallet address that can get hacked anytime that is why only people with large community that can manipulate market or scam people with a particular coin do use it and withdraw their money immediately after gaining their profit.

I don't consider any points when it comes to using telegram. Telegram have taught me lesson in the market, I'm never working towards crypto news with telegram account except for communities which is very solid and strong. Who's beckoning on telegram this present day? Telegram have become one of the app that's been accessible by scammers and they utilized their scamming activities basically. They know the knots and ties of the space, they have everything to lure investors and traders to trade which is out of the picture for most of us.

   Telegram group of investments that promise 10 times of interest are not true but scams.
Telegram is not a safe platform for keeping Bitcoin ,if your Bitcoin is being stored on telegram wallet it is risky because it can be stolen and hacked easily by hackers since telegram is being used for illegal activities which also include drug trafficking and money laundering .

Telegram draws unwanted attention from scammers since they always want to take advantage of members , scammers poses a very big problem in the crypto community   these days, in other for you to avoid them, you need to avoid unknown files and links whenever you get them and don't click on them without carefully checking on them ,also check wallet address before sending .

A fake telegram apps can easily recognize Blockchain address from mere chats and then replace the users address with that of the scammers.

The email they allow you to attach to your Telegram account is not a means to recover the account from ban, but it's an easy means to recover the account if it's been hacked by someone else. Let's say someone gained access to your telegram without your knowledge, or you set a password on your telegram and forgot the security password.
 
You can use the email to request recovery of the account and password resetting. It's just for security measures from outside intruders and not from Telegram itself, and the email they use in replying with such a request is the email that doesn't accept replies from senders.

This is exactly the case, that the best program is a highly specialized program (performing one single function). If you want a good crypto wallet, use something like electrum, not a telegram wallet. I don't like it when apps are turned into multi-tools that can't properly perform the original function. As can be seen from OP’s story, the convenience provided by combines, like telegram, is fraught with unpleasant consequences. I would generally avoid these types of (custodial and centralized) wallets.

There is one more point. The more services are tied to one program, the more painful the failure of this app is (for example, loss of access to a telegram account). It is necessary to follow diversification (by purpose): instant messengers for communication, and separate wallets for storing and using cryptocurrencies (2 different purposes).

That option is only possible if he already registered an e-mail, but it's unclear if they can recover that if the phone number is banned. I find no explanation on their support page and the chance is likely slim[1]. CMIIW. At the end of the day, shouldn't have used a wallet like this to store money regardless of how popular the app is. Hopefully, OP's friend will learn the lesson and use better wallets for the future.

[1] https://telegram.org/faq

I never believed that people can be so careless to use give their money to a social media platform like Telegram. I have to use this strong language because I feel bad at how people follow trends ignoring all safety measures. I knew when the Telegram Premium came on board with many features including this wallet. But I was never moved by the wallet aspect because I have always had in mind that "not your keys, not your coins". Anything that does not give me control over my coins is definitely a no no for me.

It seems we may have to really start settling to reading and scrutinizing the terms and agreement conditions of many of these online apps pretending to upgrade and innovate, without proper customer care representatives or contact that is responsive.

I thought it was a bad idea when I started seeing most browser apps and social media apps include crypto wallets in their upgrades.
I never want to store my funds in any  app that isn't related to the Blockchain technology activities or perform full exchange wallet functions, mostly when they have no secure key phrases to retrieve the wallet and I would till tomorrow advice against it.

It's a sad story...I don't know how it is now, but before telegram gave you the opportunity to attach mail to your account. Is there perhaps a way to restore access via email?

I like Toncoin but running the wallet on Telegram pissed me off so I let go of this project, its not a bad one at all but telegram is a bad choice for everything, I have never like it and nothing will change that.

Its not just Telegram only, be careful with crypto wallets on Opera browser too, and I see that a few other browsers are also adding crypto wallets too, they are not Trezor, and they are not Metamask, so be extremely careful with the crypto wallet that you choose to use.

I will advise to use the norm wallets that we are all used to, Trust wallet and Metamask for those who can't afford a hardware wallet, and Trezor with other open source hardware wallets are best choices.

You must have enemies to receive attacks and get your account ban. Attacks from mass reports is one of reasons but it is barely and I don't believe government stays behind it.

Common bans can be scam. I know a Telegram account can be banned if massive reports on it sent to Telegram and maybe they will have to investigate before ban that account. They will not base on report numbers and ban one Telegram account.

For fake attacks, if appeal is accepted, I wonder will accounts of attackers will receive bans after Telegram investigation.

What Is “Scam” Label On Telegram?

Well, if this is the case then Telegram has no standard of operation. Why would they ban a user just because multiple people reported the account without doing their own investigations? They ban my account for policy violations which I don't remember engaging that account with malicious activities. Perhaps, this is the reason for my ban.


People derived happiness from experimenting what will eventually harm them. Users feedback about Telegram is enough reason to stay away from them. Even mere engagement is not considered secure talk more of storing your assets with them but yeah we are human, unless we fall victim before we learn. I have already told him to move on while he continues making efforts to recover the funds thou I doubt the possibility.

Noted, I will edit again to fit in. Thank you.


He has no back up for the wallet. I don't know how there back up system works but I try it yesterday after this post to see how the wallet looks like but I did not see anything like back up after creating the wallet. Perhaps, they have back up but manually export type. People might be easily carried away without a reminder to keep their back up safe.

I have lost access to a few of my old telegram accounts due to the sim going bad or blocked and this means that everything related to that number is gone as well, this is why I hate using my phone number for any account creation, it's always best to use an email address and since Telegram will force phone number on users as the only means of registration then it's a big red flag.

If anything happens to that number, everything bad will happen to the accounts you used the phone number to create.

It's even more crazy now to store your digital coins and tokens on any crypto wallet that relies on your phone number to access, c'mon, that's straight-up stupid, do not use your phone number to create anything online.

Apart from losing the phone number you can be targeted by sim swap attacks too.

That sucks, I know that Telegram is trying to innovate and having some wallets on it is part of their plan. But knowing that they've been swarmed by scammers, and the customer service that they have is quite hard to reach. It's best to just use them as is being a messaging app. We've seen casinos building their platform on its own platform and it's not really appealling at all. Now, with vast projects that have been using them as a medium of communication to their users, I think this is the first time that I've seen someone who used them as a wallet and then the user's number got blocked by itself. Keep on appealling and contacting Telegram because if they're the one who blocked him, they are the only one who can unblock him as well.

I don't know how the Telegram wallet works and i don't care to know because it is not an option for me to store any coins. Telegram is one platform with so much cases of scam and fraud, and that alone is enough reason not to use it to keep any of your money. Even if you want to store shitcoins, there are better wallets to use, wallets that are non-custodial and open source like Unstoppable wallet, then there are others like trust wallet that are not open source, but a better option for shitcoins than telegram wallet.

I believe it's not something new that the idea of using a custodial wallet is a naive decision not to talk about using Telegram's built-in wallet despite the platform being deemed as a paradise for scammers.
This is 2024 and every crypto enthusiast should always think/examine the cons of a wallet before using it.
I have never seen a telegram account unban before so the chance of getting the crypto in the wallet back is not guaranteed but there's nothing bad in trying so therefore contact telegram support through email [email protected] or Twitter @smstelegram.

Have you tried to contact telegram to get the coins back and I am sure that they can access it. Anyway, did you ask your friend if there is a backup of the wallet?. I am sure your friend did see something after creating the wallet that says backup wallet by email and manually. If he did either of it then I think your friend can access the coins. I would say that other forum said that your friend did not backup his wallet after creating it even though he sees the warning about creating a wallet.

I wasn't aware that Telegram has wallet. But it would be one of last places where I would keep my crypto. In general, Telegram probably is the most scammy social media app.
I hope that issue will get resolved somehow, but it will be good lesson.

Telegram was banned because of piracy on this platform, it's not related with scams. But now ban was suspended by other court. Spain aren't first country in the world who tried to ban Telegram. Russia tried to do it previously, but failed. Blocking Telegram isn't same like blocking one random website.

Who's sain person will store they money on telegram, with the level of insecurity and scams that exists on telegram I don't believe anyone could still trust any third party wallet being run on telegram, unless is the coin only existed on such wallet and as matter of fact, I will avoid any coin that is being held only via telegram wallet.


Don't do any serious deal on telegram other than just means of communication with other and if you don't even know the user you have to avoid talking to the to stay clear a d safe from telegram scams.

Good reminder, @knowngunman

After seeing how leniently Telegram handles Spam and Scam on their platform, I would stay away from entrusting them any amount of coins (even shitcoins  ).
Maybe you can still enlarge your picture, it's very small currently.

And hopefully funds can be recovered. Telegram should be able to access it.
Any way, it's really a big warning to avoid storing coins on Telegram-

That's what I thought too and I think his friend did not backup his wallet. Telegram wallet has 2 backup methods, the email backup which is an online backup and the manual backup which involves writing down the seed phrase. If his friend was able to backup his seed phrase manually, he can easily import it into a TON wallet. I guess he did not and sadly this is the price he has to pay for his ignorance.

Illegal stuff happening in Telegram that's why there are accounts banned, even channels off the terrorist are in telegram and also porn but I don't see the point of banning users only. What they should be banning are the creators of those channels and those users selling illegal stuff.

I tried depositing TRON USDT there, it seems like this is the only stablecoin they accept in Telegram wallet and it works well when you are just playing around. Do these Is it safer to use the wallet bot? casinos prefer users to use the Telegram wallet than using the Tonkeeper wallet?

They are actually quite number of wallets that one can store TONcoin the most popular is the Metamask wallet which is open source and self custodial, while closed sources like Trust wallet, imtoken and even its own custom wallet outside the telegram is there. Some users just choose to do things that are actually strange in terms of securing their funds.


Most of this ban aren’t related to the government hostility to cryptocurrencies but mostly by the telegram its self. Most of the users that usually get banned are those that farm airdrops and they start spamming different kind of groups or channels with their contents and most of them get reported and then get banned.


I actually agree with you, I was myself although I didn’t used it check out a telegram wallet user interface. The wallet in question was BONKbot which is use to buy, store and sell Solana network based coins. I actually explored the wallet when I saw the report about something of a phishing attack on it and I hit the link and it generated an address for me and also exported out my private key which it stated that I can use on wallet like Solfare. So even if the OP’s friends has gotten is number banned, with a private key back up he can get access to that wallet again and then move out the funds to a more proper wallet, which should have been the case from starting

Telegram accounts can get banned for violating the app’s terms of service, including spamming, sharing illegal content, or engaging in malicious activities.
I believe it's more than that, if you pay someone who can create bunch telegram accounts and ask him to create mass reports to that account, I won't be surprised your friends account might got banned even though your friends did nothing. This is normal to someone who're popular or have something, other people are jealous with their achievements.

It's too small, I can't see anything.

Probably you meant 500.

My question to you is why being a member of this forum you would still believe that Telegram is good and it will not harm you. Every chat application like Telegram are a den for those who are known as scammers. Do a Google search and you will find so many scams happening on the two most popular chat applications. Whatsapp and Telegram and if you want to avoid scammers then avoid these two applications.


Telegram does not have an official app whereas TON has an app and a DEX. Do check before creating an app that does not represent Telegram's own wallet. Do not mix scammers with the TON ecosystem.

In Spain, a court has recently banned Telegram groups, and the wallets are also questioned. The court's sentence has been provisionally suspended because it can violate fundamental rights, but I wouldn't rely on the mentioned services either, just in case: Spain has been the first case in the world, but who knows how can it could end in other places too.

Anytime I see any company meant to something else that starts adding wallet as a new feature, I just ignore it because I know it would not be a reliable source for wallets and the safe keeping of my assets. When I saw the new wallet feature telegram did, it just occurred to me that this is another legal way to loss your asset if anything happens to your account or telegram network. Just like the way, keeping your asset in an exchange is dangerous, storing them on telegram wallet is even more dangerous. This is the second time I've come across app that start offering the service of wallet.

Basically, the problem is because (Number Getting Block) by Telegram.

I have experience using (Telegram-Wallet) at the beginning of my journey in crypto, It's your friend are not exporting the private-key or wallet they're using. Even the service provider you are using telegram, I still remember the wallet usually created by their official project is always have option to export the wallet or at least a backup for the wallet they're using.

All contains your wallet address, none of backup are crazy mate.

I can't make use of a telegram wallet neither will I adhere to the use of any mobile browser app wallet as well, if a wallet is a custodial wallet, then it's not completely safe for our usage, because we have no access to it's private keys, same as well we shouldn't consider perfect safety in using a close source non custodial wallet, also, we have to be careful on the kind of 2allet we use, such must be an open source non custodial wallet

I am sorry about your colleague's experience with the Telegram wallet. We have a human, moral, and ethical obligation to tell our friends with common interests about crypto scams, telegram wallet scams which we discover before them so that they do not fall victim. Not blaming you though but imagine if your friend had heard about this telegram wallet issue earlier from you.

I do not believe that telegram wallet is a custodial wallet. It worse than that. With telegram wallet aside them not having a support you can contact, they will scam you straight up without the need for any of their user facilitating it. For those who may not know it yet, if you still use telegram for chats, just know that they are not encrypted by default.

I don't know that people can create a non custodial wallet with Telegram or it is all custodial. This article shows Telegram Wallet Bot is custodial.

How to use Telegram wallet.

There are other wallets, not Telegram Wallet Bot, and give non custodial controls. Your friend made bad decision to choose Telegram Wallet Bot.

https://ton.org/wallets

Is ban on Telegram with a phone number common?

Why do Telegram Accounts Get Banned?

I haven't bothered checking it out until after I made this post. I think it's accessible for every telegram users and not for only premium users. The interface wasn't bad and there is P2P service too though you need to verify your identity before taking part in it. However, there is a pop up display for the first time clicking the wallet icon where Telegram disclaim that the wallet is operated by independent party not affiliated with telegram. More reason for one to distant themselves from using such wallet.

I have taken several measures for my number to be unban too but to no avail. Their bot even warned that deleting your account and creating a new one with same number won't change anything and that might even lead to blacklist since you're attempting to bypass the ban.


Thank you, edited appropriately.


It is possible but I don't think that's the case here. Perhaps, some activities they considered against their policies is the reason for things like this in most cases.

Why will the guy even save funds on a wallet? You know that your number is the only access you have to the telegram, and when this wallet is created, there is nothing like a given phrase that you can use to gain access to the wallet outside the telegram, so at least even if your number is banned, you can still gain access to it. Even if it's not open source, at least it gives you a little opportunity to recover whatever's lost in that wallet.
 
He can keep on trying to recover the banned number, but he should not put all his hope in the idea that it's ever going to get unbanned. One thing about getting an account that has funds banned is that it's very hard for it to get unbanned because the company has more to gain than lose at this point in time.

I believe that TONcoin is only available in the Telegram wallet and that there are no other exchanges that provide functionality for trading this particular coin.

But hey it wouldn't surprise me that Nigeria of all places has their phone numbers banned, because of their government's hostility towards cryptocurrency in general.

In my opinion, you need to use the software for its intended purpose without cluttering it with unnecessary functions. I mean that the Telegram program itself is intended for communication; initially, it was the most common communication between people. After groups appeared, now it is possible to add wallets. Telegram looks like a New Year tree, which is hung with different buns. At the same time, we regularly see various scams from Telegram groups and, of course, sudden blocking for actions that are incomprehensible to the owners themselves. By the way, Telegram can be hacked very easily; if you follow the links sent to you, one day you can become a victim of hacking, which once again proves that storing money separately is very smart and safe. There is no need to mix everything. Multifunctionality is only useful in the kitchen.



OP, make your image smaller

Though this is the first case I've seen about the telegram wallet, I think it should serve more as a warning for some lazy investors who prefer testing new projects than using the already made available secured opened source wallets to store their funds. For some reason I don't know why people don't think before making decisions. When this telegram wallet came about, I saw it on my telegram app though the interface looked good but still, you should remember that these are owned by centralized bodies and might not even be official making it unsafe for storing funds. A lot of time, telegram would white ban a mobile number for reasons that are not disclosed so what more will storing funds in there. Though I've never tried to ask for an appeal for my mobile no which had been banned for no reason.

We should learn to use open source noncustodial wallets to store our funds of which telegram isn't. These wallets aren't paid for , they are free and well secured so why stress over wallets that aren't safe for your funds. As for your friend @ knowngunman, I really don't think he can recover his funds as I haven't seen anyone appealed before on telegram as was unbanned. Except his ban had a time duration.

For several times, it has been discussed here that we should avoid storing assets in custodial wallet in order to avoid lose of funds. Telegram as one of the controversial social media platform has enabled wallet feature on their app for premium users. I read a thread here sometimes back asking how secure and reliable it is to use telegram wallet and many users here kicked against it (I can't find the thread as reference).

This very morning, a colleague in one of our platform brought a telegram related issue to platform seeking for help. He created a wallet on the app and store some funds there but unfortunately Telegram banned his number from accessing their services and that means automatic lose of funds. I don't know if there's a faster way to appeal for unban but I also have the same issue for over a year now and effort to unban the number prove abortive.




Creating a secure non custodial wallet won't take up to ten minutes or even less. I don't know the level of conveniences these unsecured wallets offer that people tend to be making such mistakes of using them for their asset storage. Not your keys, not your coins has been an anthem for as old as crypto exits but we turn deaf ears until things get worse before we learn. This is not only applicable to Telegram wallet but to all wallets which you have no control over the phrases. It is as good as if you have no asset because the custodian can deny you access at any time.