Your bot was not made in 2018. Your service started a few months ago. Your roi numbers are made up.
You are a silly child in a big boys world, stop lying about roi, prove you are managing 10BTC stop posting about an 900BTC bankroll
Only post data from your actual trades and then I will leave you alone. Keep the misrepresentation up and I’ll keep pointing it out so people stay away from you.
You can’t take me on and win young man
Topic: BECOME A MARKET MAKER 🔥SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME ROI+880%🔥API KEY LINKING🔥 - page 4. (Read 3699 times)
November 30, 2019, 03:41:42 AM
November 30, 2019, 03:36:18 AM
History will tell. Don't worry. You are not even realizing that your attempts to fud, only bring attention, and as you can see more and more people give me the benefit of doubt and try my service. You have seen what happens when people try it, they come here and defend it. I guess that really bothers you eh?
I am not Fudding, I am proving your misrepresentation of numbers. History? you use history to make shit up. your math is wrong - you are lying to entice clients.
I stand by Facts and data - you are manipulating data to give a better ROI which is incorrect.
4.2% compound no where near equates to 794% ROI!
that is not fud that is FACT. End of - no further discussion needed.
your attitude is what is preventing people from investing, no matter what you say there is not 10BTC under management with you and no one using your service will gain +794% ROI in 12 months these are lies. you are a liar - your trust page is proof of that.
People trust senior members as we protect junior members from losing funds
You are indeed trying to fud ( because i constantly attack hypocrites like you spamming gambling platforms than faking interest in protecting users) , but you're not even good at it.
After last loss we are at +754% since january 2018, so much more than 12 months.
The fact that every message of you is either an insult or a lie tells the whole story.
Where is your data ? Mine is free to access, including the read only api key to this trading diary.
Also tell us again how you want to protect the naive users from a 97% winrate system but you want them to go losing money betting via your signature
IN INTERNET AND IN LIFE, NEVER BEND THE KNEES.
November 29, 2019, 12:12:50 PM
History will tell. Don't worry. You are not even realizing that your attempts to fud, only bring attention, and as you can see more and more people give me the benefit of doubt and try my service. You have seen what happens when people try it, they come here and defend it. I guess that really bothers you eh?
I am not Fudding, I am proving your misrepresentation of numbers. History? you use history to make shit up. your math is wrong - you are lying to entice clients.
I stand by Facts and data - you are manipulating data to give a better ROI which is incorrect.
4.2% compound no where near equates to 794% ROI!
that is not fud that is FACT. End of - no further discussion needed.
your attitude is what is preventing people from investing, no matter what you say there is not 10BTC under management with you and no one using your service will gain +794% ROI in 12 months these are lies. you are a liar - your trust page is proof of that.
People trust senior members as we protect junior members from losing funds
November 29, 2019, 12:07:58 PM
so when you buy one of the many trading software for 15k 20k do they consider the price of the software in the trading strategy ROI ?
all of this for 10$ vps , ridiculous.
all of this for 10$ vps , ridiculous.
How old are you son?
you cannot compound returns that are not still in the bankroll - that is just total lunacy. all your numbers are incorrect due to your fees, you are a special kind of tard if you think your product is in anway comparable to another product worth $15K.
you lie - misrepresent data and in general are a prized cunt, you are not a business you are a child who fails at simple mathematical equations
Yet i'm the algo trader and developer who actually has products and a service in quick expansion running.
While i stand with facts , data and explanations behind my business, you have nothing other than empty trolling.
History will tell. Don't worry. You are not even realizing that your attempts to fud, only bring attention, and as you can see more and more people give me the benefit of doubt and try my service. You have seen what happens when people try it, they come here and defend it. I guess that really bothers you eh?
November 29, 2019, 10:58:19 AM
so when you buy one of the many trading software for 15k 20k do they consider the price of the software in the trading strategy ROI ?
all of this for 10$ vps , ridiculous.
all of this for 10$ vps , ridiculous.
How old are you son?
you cannot compound returns that are not still in the bankroll - that is just total lunacy. all your numbers are incorrect due to your fees, you are a special kind of tard if you think your product is in anway comparable to another product worth $15K.
you lie - misrepresent data and in general are a prized cunt, you are not a business you are a child who fails at simple mathematical equations
November 29, 2019, 10:44:26 AM
1. that's not part of the trading strategy.
errrrrrrr you retard - that makes a huge difference to your clients ROI. " not part of the strategy" the strategy to con people into thinking they will earn 794% roi when infact even with compounding it is likely to be 1/10th of that amount.
you are skammy as your numbers are skammy.
never mind the risk of you just moving funds and pumping a shitcoin for your own profits (please see Binanace hack) *being a VIACOIN investor that one actually worked out for me.. but that would not work for anyone else who was trusting you when you are not trusted
so when you buy one of the many trading software for 15k 20k do they consider the price of the software in the trading strategy ROI ?
all of this for 10$ vps , ridiculous.
Also shitcoins are not allowed on bitmex, and any market on bitmex is hard to manipulate without controlling group of whales. Nevertheless only XBT perpetual swap contracts are traded
November 29, 2019, 09:19:02 AM
1. that's not part of the trading strategy.
errrrrrrr you retard - that makes a huge difference to your clients ROI. " not part of the strategy" the strategy to con people into thinking they will earn 794% roi when infact even with compounding it is likely to be 1/10th of that amount.
you are skammy as your numbers are skammy.
never mind the risk of you just moving funds and pumping a shitcoin for your own profits (please see Binanace hack) *being a VIACOIN investor that one actually worked out for me.. but that would not work for anyone else who was trusting you when you are not trusted
November 29, 2019, 08:32:11 AM
Please explain why this trading diary
Because
1) you did not take out your fees and VPS costs
2) you made up the bankroll
3) its a backtest not a real dataset
4) market depth changes - larger orders move markets - 900BTC *5% =45BTC - 45BTC walls affect a market more than a 0.002BTC pajeet order
5) I do not trust you
6) your numbers are not accurate on the ROI
7) did I say I dislike you
because I said so.you dont get it - you cannot compound numbers without taking out all costs - its just fucking made up figures - so you lie
1. that's not part of the trading strategy.
2. only backtest bankroll is "madeup", the final ROI % doesn't change anyway.
3. there's both 2 year backtest and 3 month live trading
4. i already explained that being arakne a market maker, so she awaits to get filled, market depth is not a problem because she creates her own depth. furthermore the capital is spread across a dozen different price levels.
5. ok
6. numbers are accurate and free to access and verify by anyone via the read only api key
7. ok
8. ok
Wait guigui371 impartial feedback during his 30 days period that started today. If i'm a scammer he will prove it.
November 29, 2019, 07:49:52 AM
Please explain why this trading diary
Because
1) you did not take out your fees and VPS costs
2) you made up the bankroll
3) its a backtest not a real dataset
4) market depth changes - larger orders move markets - 900BTC *5% =45BTC - 45BTC walls affect a market more than a 0.002BTC pajeet order
5) I do not trust you
6) your numbers are not accurate on the ROI
7) did I say I dislike you
because I said so.you dont get it - you cannot compound numbers without taking out all costs - its just fucking made up figures - so you lie
November 29, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
Just 0.075btc,
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
cool dude, just wondering though - do you not have an issue with the misrepresentation of the numbers? IE - the ROI in the title of the thread, 794% roi. Seeing as the only true dataset we have is the trades shown by mgtech and that gave 9% and taking the 30% fee and the VPS into account it was actually only 4.5% so even compounding over 12 months it is no where near the claimed number.
totally get you are taking a punt, but do be careful dude
Please explain why this trading diary of 3 month, which trades can be verify via the api key, should be less "true dataset" than the screenshots posted by the users.( and not only mctech). Please explain why if my backtest engine is corrupeted, the trades results and graphs react to what is happening on live in this trading diary since september 2019.
Please explain who is using misrepresentation from the beginning, since all your attacks are about the backtest bankroll being Arakne's real funds in management ( never said or written anywhere by myself, but instead continuously explained as backtest) .
Yesterday we had our first loss in 3 months, loss was posted in here as the 98 wins, loss is showing in the account you can check constantly via
https://www.coinmarketman.com
with the following api key
Code:
_rbjC_vOwJBRupytRPo7nxYI
V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE
V8AU7GvMLSry4mpKnKD1Bu8PBuYpLZx88dfn40Nkq1Dm59GE
If i was a liar and playing with misrepresentation , would i have come here showing the loss ?
I have nothing to hide. i never promised guaranteed returns, all i can guarantee is backtest accuracy and proper risk management over long periods of time.
November 29, 2019, 04:30:43 AM
Just 0.075btc,
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
cool dude, just wondering though - do you not have an issue with the misrepresentation of the numbers? IE - the ROI in the title of the thread, 794% roi. Seeing as the only true dataset we have is the trades shown by mgtech and that gave 9% and taking the 30% fee and the VPS into account it was actually only 4.5% so even compounding over 12 months it is no where near the claimed number.
totally get you are taking a punt, but do be careful dude
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November 28, 2019, 10:05:32 PM
According to him, his current real bankroll is about 10 BTC,
He was using a 100 BTC initial "test" bankroll on a testing account. And that is what he is/was using to advertise the 900% ROI.
He was using a 100 BTC initial "test" bankroll on a testing account. And that is what he is/was using to advertise the 900% ROI.
That's not what he says on his graph though, is it? He's obviously misrepresenting his accomplishments. I just wonder what else he is misrepresenting.
The confusion about API being private keys come from the fact that (my guess), in his mind, you can store crypto on an exchange (this is a bad idea !!). And since the API can give you a backdoor access to the funds held in the trading account, it acts sort of like a private key.
Obviously he is wrong, his terminology is wrong, but I can understand the analogy. Not too far fetched.
If i was to explain to my grand parent what an API is, I could potentially use the same type of explanation.
Obviously he is wrong, his terminology is wrong, but I can understand the analogy. Not too far fetched.
If i was to explain to my grand parent what an API is, I could potentially use the same type of explanation.
I wouldn't. An exchange is more like a bank, with an API key being your debit card, and a private key is more like a safe kept at your house for which only you know the combination, but whatever.
I am not supporting him, nor defending him, I'm just staying open minded and going to try it for a month or two.
If you pay him money you're supporting him.
November 28, 2019, 09:48:58 PM
His answer was no (fine) but a quite arrogant answer.
this is quite a large part of the issue - how much in BTC or USD are you going to trial it with bud?
Just 0.075btc,
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
I'm just curious: he is lying about having a bankroll of (now) 900+ BTC and lying about the importance of his "backtest data" (its zero) - he was also lying about an exchange API key being able to act as a private key - aren't you curious as to what else he may be lying about?
According to him, his current real bankroll is about 10 BTC,
He was using a 100 BTC initial "test" bankroll on a testing account. And that is what he is/was using to advertise the 900% ROI.
The confusion about API being private keys come from the fact that (my guess), in his mind, you can store crypto on an exchange (this is a bad idea !!). And since the API can give you a backdoor access to the funds held in the trading account, it acts sort of like a private key.
Obviously he is wrong, his terminology is wrong, but I can understand the analogy. Not too far fetched.
If i was to explain to my grand parent what an API is, I could potentially use the same type of explanation.
He obviously doesn't hold the truth in high regards.
I for one wouldn't support anybody who is so brazen and blatant in their lies, but that's just me.
I for one wouldn't support anybody who is so brazen and blatant in their lies, but that's just me.
I am not supporting him, nor defending him, I'm just staying open minded and going to try it for a month or two.
At this stage, I'm going to take part of the experiment, this doesn't mean I vouch and or support the bot or the OP.
I just want to make a few % or lose and red tag him.
I just want to make a few % or lose and red tag him.
November 28, 2019, 09:34:41 PM
His answer was no (fine) but a quite arrogant answer.
this is quite a large part of the issue - how much in BTC or USD are you going to trial it with bud?
Just 0.075btc,
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
I'm just curious: he is lying about having a bankroll of (now) 900+ BTC and lying about the importance of his "backtest data" (its zero) - he was also lying about an exchange API key being able to act as a private key - aren't you curious as to what else he may be lying about?
He obviously doesn't hold the truth in high regards.
I for one wouldn't support anybody who is so brazen and blatant in their lies, but that's just me.
November 28, 2019, 04:39:03 PM
His answer was no (fine) but a quite arrogant answer.
this is quite a large part of the issue - how much in BTC or USD are you going to trial it with bud?
Just 0.075btc,
Which means that if he can do 9%
the calculus will be : 0.075*0.09*0.7 = 0.004725 -0.00134 (VPS invoice) = 0.00338 * 7500($/usd) = $25 profit.
Not crazy, but from a $560 investment it is %4.5 ROI in 1 month.
in my case, if the bot is not making at least 2.5% / month I am losing money.
November 28, 2019, 03:52:32 PM
His answer was no (fine) but a quite arrogant answer.
this is quite a large part of the issue - how much in BTC or USD are you going to trial it with bud?
November 28, 2019, 02:38:43 PM
Soon no more disbelievers. Even after many vouches there is still trolls, haters and jealous people.
November 28, 2019, 02:34:24 PM
However, the same calculation with $200 usd works ( profit = $18*0.7 = $2.6 = 1%) and with $500 usd it is ($45*0.7 - 10 = $21 = 4.5%)
At this stage, I'm going to take part of the experiment, this doesn't mean I vouch and or support the bot or the OP.
At this stage, I'm going to take part of the experiment, this doesn't mean I vouch and or support the bot or the OP.
I wish you the best of luck here dude, but the fact still remains that doubling the amount of funds on a backtest does not give accurate results, market depth comes into play - more funds on the same bot with the same algorithm will not give the same results.
will you be willing to show a full P&L as the test goes on?
Cheers,
I will do a full P&L as the test goes on.
I have a feeling that the OP is some kind of genius with a little bit of autism.
I genuinely asked him if i could as well have a free vps.
His answer was no (fine) but a quite arrogant answer.
I wasn't very pushy and asked him if he was wiling to reconsider based on the fact that I was legendary (oh well, this entitlement !) and that he wold still make 30% of my profit and that the 10$ wouldn't be much of a difference to him. Meanwhile he would gain a customer that could eventually put more fund.
He once again wrote about being a service provider and having terms and conditions and other BS.
Well, lacking people's skill.
Especially when, he is advertising free VPs for all when the "platform" is ready - before the end of the year.
Anyway, I will go forward, not that much at stake.
And even if the OP is not the best communicant, his product might be great.
November 28, 2019, 11:47:11 AM
liar - you dont have 800sats nevermind 800BTC
liar liar - your graphs mean nothing - backtest schmacktest - liar
prove trades with real amounts not lies and fairytails
liar liar - your graphs mean nothing - backtest schmacktest - liar
prove trades with real amounts not lies and fairytails
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