Topic: 'Become Muslims by noon today... or we kill all of you' (Read 2669 times)

Around 80 Yazidis were killed in Iraq yesterday by the ISIS. Reports indicate that dozens of Yazidi women were kidnapped by the terrorists, to be sold as slaves in Mosul and Tikrit. 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/08/16/isis-massacres-dozens-yazidi-in-northern-iraq-town-say-iraqi-officials/

http://rt.com/news/180712-isis-massacre-village-iraq/

Sometimes war and military agression is a necessary evil to prevent even more violence in the future. Imagine how big of a war WW2 would have been if most of the world had intervened in the early days of the war instead of waiting for years. WW2 would have been nothing more then a minor conflict but instead turned into a years long war that affected almost every continent.

France is the only country which is offering support for the minorities in Iraq. Earlier they granted refugee status for all the Christians there (well... those who could manage to escape). Now they are offering arms for the Kurdish Peshmerga. Commendable steps, especially when the US and other NATO nations are completely ignoring the conflict. 

So what was the result anyways
Did they get assassinated regarding the original article
What I see is that they are being armed
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/13/france-arms-kurds-isis-iraq-military

I am no pacifist. I simply think that war should be an incredibly rare event and only fought as an absolute necessity.

Oh common. Pacifism is a failed ideology. It is true that some isolated segments survive to this day (such as the Amish and Mennonites), but they are able to survive only due to protection from outside. War should be fought when it is absolutely necessary.

Two separate wars, sort of conveniently held at the same time.

They also had their own civil was before and after WW II.
This war ended in 1949 when communist won.

The Chinese civilian deaths during the WW2 were caused by ethnic cleansing attempted by the imperial Japanese army. The German Nazi troops were not involved in these atrocities.

I don't, we should all abhor violence and war. They are necessary things in rare circumstances, but non violence and peace should be our default position on just about every thing.

Catholic bombs? When did the Vatican get a military? I better get back to mass this week.

I agree with this completely. Liberals with flowers in their hair don't understand that technology is not everything. Without a strong society convinced to their views/beliefs and able to defend it, the barbarians can win.

Perhaps a puppet government and a kangaroo state might prove to be an interesting combination, watch it fail and what not.

Also build a few castles for the heck of it.

I think that the Yazidi need to make their own country like the Kurds or join them enough of these divergent groups can make a new power.
Since the whole place is a governmental mess a few minor territories and countries in the region is possible..
Pretty much in Iraq your on your own outside the main capital and nearby areas so having a mountain base like the Communist Chinese and a Yenan to build a country from is possible ^_^.

Anyways the US is thinking about it hope they don't take too long has a time limit.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/u-s-weighs-international-rescue-mission-for-yazidi-refugees-1407881639

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/08/140809-iraq-yazidis-minority-isil-religion-history/

The Yazidis have inhabited the mountains of northwestern Iraq for centuries, and the region is home to their holy places, shrines, and ancestral villages.  Outside of Sinjar, the Yazidis are concentrated in areas north of Mosul, and in the Kurdish-controlled province of Dohuk. For Yazidis, the land holds deep religious significance; adherents from all over the world—remnant communities exist in Turkey, Germany, and elsewhere—make pilgrimages to the holy Iraqi city of Lalesh. The city is now less than 40 miles from the Islamic State front lines.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan%27an#Red_Capital

From 1937, Yan'an became the seat of the communist government of what became known as the Shaanxi-Gansu-Ningxia Border Region. It became the center for intensive training of party members and army troops. In 1941, Mao Zedong put special influence on a series of training programs to "correct unorthodox tendencies" and essentially mold the peasantry to the communist model. One of the first CPC programs launched was the Yan'an Rectification Movement.

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I have a feeling that this really is not "Become Muslim by noon or we will kill you."

Rather it's "Become our particular type of Muslim and support us and everything we say or do or we will kill you."

A reasonable way to deal with this is to recognize an attempt to establish a medevil style Islamic Caliphate.

Then mock it and ridicule it.  Watch it fail.  Help it fail.  Make news of the barbaric nature of this stupid vision.

Let  people of the world - primarily Muslims - learn from a bad example.  A very, very bad example.

Well this is the daily mail we are talking about the same people who said Dorian was Satoshi so they are a tad sensationalist
Still this does creep me out there is extreme then their is ultra extreme.

The deadline the people of Kosho have to meet is midday today. Since the residents refuse to betray their faith, it is feared an entire village of about 2,500 innocent people might be slaughtered in cold blood.

‘If we did not have families, we would try to escape,’ the stoical Falah told me yesterday. ‘But we have lots of women here and many children, along with all the old men and women of the village. How could we leave them?’

This is thought to be the first time these blood-drenched fanatics – who delight in boasting of their barbarism and posting sickening murder videos on social media – have threatened to wipe out an entire village.

Call to arms

DOn't leave the Soviets out of the fun. They ALMOST killed more people than religion.

They definitely went for "MAXIMUM KILL POINTS" and set the record.

Its part of the reason why their system imploded into a frenzy of violence and hate.



GREAT JOB!

You have forgotten chinese people.

Catholic bombs and air strikes to Lugansk and Donetsk are OK for You?

Important part is bolded.

Unfortunately I think you are exactly right. Sometimes when the opposing sides are so dead set on destroying the other it only ends when one side wins. Maybe the territorial integrity of Iraq isn't that important in the grand scheme of things. 3 or 4 smaller countries might be a better solution to all of this.