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1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist
Hello.

Yes, it's been 4 and a half years since my last post in this amazing thread.

This is why I'd like to start by saying I apologize to everyone that was excited by ideas in this thread and if you felt disapointed - I get it and I'm sorry.
I got sucked into other work that needed my immediate attention and before I knew it months passed and my head was elsewhere.

Recently I've started returning to this forum (and Bitcoin in general) more and more and started pondering new projects.

One is almost ready to be presented to you and will start in a similar way as projects in this thread.

But then this thread already exists! We came very far brainstorming one particular idea and I think it would be a shame to not give it a fresh chance.
So I'm jumping back at the wheel!

I'll try to be more concrete in navigating it so it becomes a real artifact asap.  Cool


TLDR;

This project is back. This was where we left it (copy&paste from previous post):





It is a composition of three pieces. We could even go further to five or seven, but three seems ok for now.
This way the process of producing a collectible from start to finish is told in much greater detail and opens other options for adding content. The three pieces would be connected both via shapes and colors and the story.

The composition starts with the piece on the left, which visualizes the internet. Cubic shapes emerge from the center (genesis) as it is established as a timeline. Said shapes represent the Blockchain, Bitcointalk and other crucial places, with users being smaller cubes, interacting with the big ones. This entire piece would be very futuristic and abstract, something like in Tron:




Of course, I would make it more painterly, with brush strokes, as that's my forte.  Cool

The middle piece stayed mostly the same, I just made the two guys younger. As with everything else, execution and detail would be on another level on the final piece.

The last part, on the right, we have our final product in the hands of the new owner. It has some small part of the internet still in the background, because I wanted to show that what happens here affects the "real" world. I made a drone deliver the collectible, but that's just one of many ideas that could work here. We could show ways Bitcoin is manifest in the real world and different kinds of collectibles.

I know the sketch is very sloppy, but it should serve its purpose, to get us another step ahead!

Let me know what you think and let's focus on details, every little bit will help a lot!


This is where we jump in. I know I have plenty ideas on improving on above sketch and I'm sure you will too.

I'll start working on improved sketches as soon as ideas start rolling in.

Can't wait to see where this takes us. Please comment just about any aspect of this!

Cheers!

1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist
Awesome progress!

The first piece should represent Blockchain (loading), manufacturing and assembling (creation/design)
-Freshly minted bits, buyer funded coins, DIY
-Bridge between digital and physical
-Verified Value

The second piece should represent BTCTalk, user interactions, Pros, Collectors, Investors, Developers (critiques)

The third could represent auctions, raffles, trades, peeling, adding to a collection, coin shows, grading and resales (what happens to coins)

Just some more ideas, hope this helps  Smiley

Thanks for specific ideas - that's just the direction I was going for! If you (or anyone else) has any images that pop into your minds when thinking about these subjects, please link them!

This is awesome! I like your progress so far! Your updates based on discussion are really good! I like it!

I'm in the middle of preparing PHASE 2 with a brand new post, while this one will remain for the purpose of ongoing brainstorming. Can't wait to go onto the next step.  Grin
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Awesome progress!

The first piece should represent Blockchain (loading), manufacturing and assembling (creation/design)
-Freshly minted bits, buyer funded coins, DIY
-Bridge between digital and physical
-Verified Value

The second piece should represent BTCTalk, user interactions, Pros, Collectors, Investors, Developers (critiques)

The third could represent auctions, raffles, trades, peeling, adding to a collection, coin shows, grading and resales (what happens to coins)

Just some more ideas, hope this helps  Smiley
1Dq
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Activity: 475
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Bitcoin Artist
Back with an updated sketch with lots of upgrades based on what we were discussing.






First off, I expanded it into three pieces! We could even go further to five or seven, but three seems ok for now.
This way the process of producing a collectible from start to finish is told in much greater detail and opens other options for adding content. The three pieces would be connected both via shapes and colors and the story.

The composition starts with the piece on the left, which visualizes the internet. Cubic shapes emerge from the center (genesis) as it is established as a timeline. Said shapes represent the Blockchain, Bitcointalk and other crucial places, with users being smaller cubes, interacting with the big ones. This entire piece would be very futuristic and abstract, something like in Tron:




Of course, I would make it more painterly, with brush strokes, as that's my forte.  Cool

The middle piece stayed mostly the same, I just made the two guys younger. As with everything else, execution and detail would be on another level on the final piece.

The last part, on the right, we have our final product in the hands of the new owner. It has some small part of the internet still in the background, because I wanted to show that what happens here affects the "real" world. I made a drone deliver the collectible, but that's just one of many ideas that could work here. We could show ways Bitcoin is manifest in the real world and different kinds of collectibles.

I know the sketch is very sloppy, but it should serve its purpose, to get us another step ahead!

Let me know what you think and let's focus on details, every little bit will help a lot!

legendary
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Disobey.
Love the idea. Just been really busy lately and thus not commented here.
Here is some basic input: To me, Bitcoin is a fundamentally disruptive technology and therefore thriving with potential and energy. -> I love to express this in my art usually with lightning bolts, laserbeams, fireblazes, plasmabursts etc. surrounding the logo.
Another general idea: Bitcoin will impact so many different aspects of the modern society / life, so showing this connectedness is always on my mind when creating Bitcoin art.

Really looking forward to see whatt this experiment will lead up to. Keep up the great work, 1Dq.
1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist
Let's discuss the proper way to motivate and reward participation in this project.

I'm not a huge fan of the idea of paying for exposure, but could be interesting if people voted for a coin / maker they'd want featured by making a small donation to charities (Save the Bees,  Free Ross, Tor, Support the Amazon, ect...).  

People could post TXID along with their vote for a coin / maker they would like to see, and everyone who makes a donation would receive a print  Grin

It'd be nice to see a sketch how coins / makers would be featured before voting.

Donations to charities are a good addition to the brainstorming mix (and also good for promotion of course), so let's keep that in mind. Any article reporting on the Bitcoin community donating to charities is good for public awareness and Bitcoin exposure.

I'll go make an advanced sketch of the Examining collectibles motif, using recently discussed ideas. It'll make it easier to plan further steps.

This project is still open to random ideas, but not for much longer!
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Let's discuss the proper way to motivate and reward participation in this project.

I'm not a huge fan of the idea of paying for exposure, but could be interesting if people voted for a coin / maker they'd want featured by making a small donation to charities (Save the Bees,  Free Ross, Tor, Support the Amazon, ect...).  

People could post TXID along with their vote for a coin / maker they would like to see, and everyone who makes a donation would receive a print  Grin

It'd be nice to see a sketch how coins / makers would be featured before voting.
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Following and supporting you Smiley count me in , haha Cool
1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist

These were great introductions to the production, thank you!

Let's discuss the proper way to motivate and reward participation in this project.

Maybe we can settle on an initial investment of some sort to determine which products get exposed and how big that exposure will be? I would guarantee exposing those products/symbols/images for some sort of a fee, while still including those we would collectively settle on. It would all be visualized via sketches before working on the final thing.

The final artwork could either be raffled or auctioned, while patrons of the project would get free prints? I want for all of you guys who have added in any way and still will, to get something lush in return. For me, I wish for a fair artist's fee, depending on how much effort it will take and how successful the final product will be.

I'd like to settle this out before I start my 100% investment into producing this.  Cool

Any experiences or ideas on how to do this?
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I really like the sketch and representation of the forum (coin inspector). 

It would be interesting to see a representation of the manufacturing of the physical coin + hologram + keys and how they all come together before the coin inspector.

Great progress and I'm excited to see what you come up with!

That could easily be visualized in the background or even somewhere in betwen - great idea!

Can I get a link of the manufacturing procedure explained and/or photographed please?

Video on minting generic silver coins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyh9SI5UhnY

Assembling Casascius Coins:
https://bit.tube/play?hash=QmaZQG3z2652xufAi4Z5oEB2uAp4BvviKyacN9bx1AsSZD&channel=65218
1Dq
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Activity: 475
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Bitcoin Artist
I really like the sketch and representation of the forum (coin inspector). 

It would be interesting to see a representation of the manufacturing of the physical coin + hologram + keys and how they all come together before the coin inspector.

Great progress and I'm excited to see what you come up with!

That could easily be visualized in the background or even somewhere in betwen - great idea!

Can I get a link of the manufacturing procedure explained and/or photographed please?
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I really like the sketch and representation of the forum (coin inspector). 

It would be interesting to see a representation of the manufacturing of the physical coin + hologram + keys and how they all come together before the coin inspector.

Great progress and I'm excited to see what you come up with!
1Dq
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Activity: 475
Merit: 1379
Bitcoin Artist
To get back to the basics of the thread, its ultimately about the forum, and its a
pity to see that there isnt more interest in the threads idea.

A big portion of the forum is centered on speculation and the majority of users
dont give a toss for anything other than what tomorrow brings let alone next year.

Maybe factoring in speculation in the artwork is another line, how it would be done
im not sure.

So how is the project progressing? Have you thought further on the format, sizes
and materials?


It's true that I've been waiting for extra commentary, but I think most people are just looking forward to see what comes up next and that's ok.

Surely, we could touch on the speculation aspect and the development of tehnology is also a very important part of Bitcointalk, especially historically. But I would push the collecting and artwork aspects of this place, as that's what our corner is here for, right?

Taking that and all the input I've gotten into consideration, I will start working on one or two advanced sketches, that will set a horizon for this enterprise. Maybe I'll execute it/them on canvas so that they can become collectibles too.

As further collaboration is concerned, we could have a contest or voting that would determine which artifacts/symbols/objects would be incorporated into the final piece/s.

I'm still open to suggestions, but the window of pure brainstorming is going to shut pretty soon, so go for it!
legendary
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To get back to the basics of the thread, its ultimately about the forum, and its a
pity to see that there isnt more interest in the threads idea.

A big portion of the forum is centered on speculation and the majority of users
dont give a toss for anything other than what tomorrow brings let alone next year.

Maybe factoring in speculation in the artwork is another line, how it would be done
im not sure.

So how is the project progressing? Have you thought further on the format, sizes
and materials?
1Dq
copper member
Activity: 475
Merit: 1379
Bitcoin Artist
Yes, that is still one of two main options and I also made a sketch (the scattered one a couple of posts above). Mine was abstract though, so a realistic one is another line we could take.

I see it as a polyptych of x pieces, that would share a common theme and an assortment of compositional attributes, like landscape in the back or workspace, color/hue... In the middle something big and ultimate would be depicted (BTC comes to mind of course).

Maybe the composition could visualize the structure of this forum - in the center an altar of BTC, then left and right different sections of Bitcoin talk doing their thing - exploring technology, memes, buying/selling, collecting etc. There should be emphasis on collectibles as that's what grows this project, but I bet members from other areas would be interested to see their boards visualized, what do you think?

I've only hanged out in "Collectibles" most of the time so I'm not that familiar with the overall feel everywhere else.  Grin

legendary
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for me 120x90 is perfect, my walls are not that big!

as regards multiple small sizes, what about making a single artwork
made up of 8 for example pieces [polyptych] so a few people can
own part of a single work, this going forward would potentially raise
the value of the finished product as people strive to own as many
parts as possible. It would also interest collectors and raise the profile
of the artist.

for example


1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist
120x90 is a "not too big, not too small" size.

The size all depends obviously where it will finally be located.

Something to consider is transportation to its final home, that might be overseas.

Final location of an individual piece is definitely one of the most important factors of deciding what size to use. That's why I'm interested in what kind of space you guys use for artworks, please share if you can.

Transportation is another important topic. I'm from Europe and trans-Atlantic transport costs are 2-3 time higher than inter-continental. Smaller pieces (60x60cm/24x24" and smaller) are pretty cheap to send across (around 50$), while over 100cm/40" become quite costly - 600$ and up.

When you sell a piece that is pretty expensive, shipping cost gets marginalized, but selling a larger piece for say 1000$ and having the shipment cost be almost the same becomes a big problem. This is one of the reasons I never made any compromises with either quality (using gold, proper frames and meticulous execution) or price with my larger pieces. When they sold, I wanted me and the buyer satisfied.

Here, we could decide on a larger piece that would be more pricey (maybe around 0.5 BTC) or several smaller, that would be more affordable (0.05 - 0.1BTC).

What do you think?

legendary
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120x90 is a "not too big, not too small" size.

The size all depends obviously where it will finally be located.

Something to consider is transportation to its final home, that might be overseas.
1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist
Let's discuss a very important aspect of the finished piece/s - the size.

I've sold paintings of very different sizes, some as big as 4 meters/13feet. But mostly people choose pieces, that fit into their homes or office space, so around 70-120cm/27-47in on the longer side.

Used materials, subject matter and execution will of course determine how the artwork will feel when hanged or placed on a shelf etc. In this project we have different options on what we settle on.

Let's start by asking ourselves, what size/s we would like this/these artwork/s to be.

I think the sketch below would look great in around 120x90cm/47x35in.






The individual pieces of the composition below might work well being around 40x40cm/15x15in.





What do you guys think? We COULD go wild on dimensions if we wanted, if we figured that would make the artwork somehow better.  Wink
1Dq
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Bitcoin Artist
Man, id really like to contribute to this however i seriously lack any real imagination.....
Il give it a shot though 👍

Something i think that would maybe a cool addition..... In the background would be a historical price chart. This could maybe take the form of a line of scenery for example a mountain range.

Something else that iv toyed with the idea of is, a house of cards with the £ ¥ $ symbols on them toppling over. Possibly reflecting how things could turn out in the future...

One other thing. A long line of gravestones bearing the bitcoin logo, all with disturbed earth as if something has risen from the graves, over and over and over.

I understand my ideas are all a bit cliché but as i said, imagination is NOT my strong suit

Happy to contribute and i wont be offended at all if you reject them.

Cheers!

Those are some pretty cool ideas man, especially the historical graph.

You did paint a completely different picture here, but we haven't settled on anything yet so it might get picked up, or at least pieces of it.

This is off topic, but I love your work and I'm happy you joined in on this project!  Smiley
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