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October 25, 2019, 03:00:33 AM
#94
yes, if they realize the cycle, of course they will start to consider btc, I just knew crypto in 2017 so I have never seen btc being priced at hundreds of dollars, I am amazed at people who buy at that number then sell, and buy back.
it's as if they know the situation and do the same thing to get a profit within a certain period.
it's usually they are easily influenced and makes themselves easy to panic to buy and panic to sell, bitcoin should be able to be used for long-term investment meaning you can save bitcoin until the price is really expensive because the more years of bitcoin will be more difficult to obtain.
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October 25, 2019, 12:59:57 AM
#93
yes, if they realize the cycle, of course they will start to consider btc, I just knew crypto in 2017 so I have never seen btc being priced at hundreds of dollars, I am amazed at people who buy at that number then sell, and buy back.
it's as if they know the situation and do the same thing to get a profit within a certain period.

It is difficult to sell at the right time. I am not very good at it, which is why I am more of a long-term holder than a trader. One problem with trading is that when bitcoin price drops, it tends to drop very suddenly, which means it is almost impossible to sell at the moment it starts falling. It is much better to sell before that, when the price is still rising... it is just extremely difficult mentally to make the decision that the price rise is unsustainable and to sell a rising asset.
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October 24, 2019, 10:32:58 PM
#92
yes, if they realize the cycle, of course they will start to consider btc, I just knew crypto in 2017 so I have never seen btc being priced at hundreds of dollars, I am amazed at people who buy at that number then sell, and buy back.
it's as if they know the situation and do the same thing to get a profit within a certain period.
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October 24, 2019, 06:49:01 PM
#91
Reading your posts makes me very excited. I know Bitcoin in October 2016. Because I was jobless at the time so I did not think at all about investing here, which was in my mind how I have an income through bitcoin.
This post makes me realize a little that I have to start saving bitcoin bit by bit so that I can get a big profit in the coming years starting now.
Start saving now so you won't feel the same regrets before. Bitcoin price is full of predictions so there is no guarantee if it will pump or dump in the next years to come but i believe that bitcoin will be more profitable in the following years so i won't waste time but to start saving more bitcoins now. And one thing that is certain here is the more patient you hold your bitcoins, the bigger chances you'll become profitable in the future.
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October 24, 2019, 11:49:59 AM
#90
You are very lucky to have been in the game for so long, i have been in it for 2,5 to 3 years. I got in it just before the bull market started but i did not rush in it unfortunately so I did not make a lot of money out of it. I wish i would have started my research 6 months earlier.
You are not the only one that regrets not taking bitcoin more seriously from the beginning, if I knew the same that I know now about trading and investing before the bull market of 2017 happened then my profits will be significantly higher than what they are now but there is no point in thinking about it because there is nothing we can do to change it, what you can do is to try to learn as much as possible about those two topics before the next bull run comes.
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October 23, 2019, 05:14:37 AM
#89
Halving equals more scarce.
Halving equals less inflation.... it in no shape or form equals Bitcoin to be more scarce than it already. Scarcity in Bitcoin doesn't always play much of a role because during a bear market there are more sellers than buyers

It is not just about scarcity alone

As it is always about utility too as these two characteristics of an asset, service or good are complementary and work hand in hand. What I mean to say is that utility has the same effect on price as scarcity. If Bitcoin becomes more useful (when, for example, people start to use it more widely as a means of payment) its utility rises which leads to higher prices even if its scarcity doesn't change or even decreases (i.e. Bitcoin becomes more abundant). Conversely, if people become less interested in it, Bitcoin's utility goes down - along with its price

I must admit. I, for one, also always thought that Scarcity has the biggest role in Bitcoin's price. I didn't realize the contribution of utility

You are definitely not alone

As quite a number of people think that scarcity determines the price of an asset. It does but along with utility. In fact, I explained the relationship between utility and price on several occasions before. The truth is, without utility scarcity means nothing (though it works in reverse too). If something is extremely scarce but it has no practical use and application (whatever those might be in terms of the subjective theory of value), its value will be null

And as I said, it works in reverse too. If something has tremendous significance and importance for us (what utility comes down to), it may still have low or no value for being extremely abundant (in terms of price). We cannot live without air but it doesn't cost us anything for the simple reason it is so plentiful that there is enough of it for everyone (as they say, air for everybody, free, and let no one be left behind)

But the main difference between them is goods can be produced many times over but in Bitcoin (regardless of halvings) has a limited supply

Without actual utility a limited supply turns irrelevant and inconsequential. Quite a few shitcoins had a very limited supply, some of them even less than Bitcoin's, and what's become of them?
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October 22, 2019, 11:00:14 PM
#88
it is true that cryptocurrency price movements cannot provide guarantees for you and at the moment the price of bitcoin is far but at least the price of bitcoin can return to be expensive because now I see there are signs of price increases so the most important thing when trading you must be able to control your patience have and don't let you sell your assets at cheap prices because it will only make you lose.
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October 22, 2019, 10:35:08 PM
#87
Halving equals more scarce.
Halving equals less inflation.... it in no shape or form equals Bitcoin to be more scarce than it already. Scarcity in Bitcoin doesn't always play much of a role because during a bear market there are more sellers than buyers

It is not just about scarcity alone

As it is always about utility too as these two characteristics of an asset, service or good are complementary and work hand in hand. What I mean to say is that utility has the same effect on price as scarcity. If Bitcoin becomes more useful (when, for example, people start to use it more widely as a means of payment) its utility rises which leads to higher prices even if its scarcity doesn't change or even decreases (i.e. Bitcoin becomes more abundant). Conversely, if people become less interested in it, Bitcoin's utility goes down - along with its price

I must admit. I, for one, also always thought that Scarcity has the biggest role in Bitcoin's price. I didn't realize the contribution of utility. If you think about it, it is very similar in the economy (for goods, that is). Sure, scarcity of a certain good raises its price (value) as an answer for the rising demand, but the utility (supply, logistics) will also affect its rising price because of its maintenance (for the case of cryptocurrency, fees and transaction time), as it is not instant, unlike services. But the main difference between them is goods can be produced many times over but in Bitcoin (regardless of halvings) has a limited supply.
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October 22, 2019, 06:18:13 PM
#86
I remember my wife telling to stop trading cryptocurrencies and focus on my day job that pays me a few hundred dollars every 15 and 30th day of the month. Those we’re the days when Bitcoin is being traded below $100 and out of 10 people you ask about Bitcoin, you are lucky if one will answer that they know what Bitcoin is. Fast forward 6 years later, she always ask how many Bitcoins did I earn already and she knows the value of Bitcoin. 6 years ago I dont mind if I pay my bills using Bitcoin, nowdays, I dont care if my electric bill is past due date, I will pay when I have money and I will not touch my Bitcoin.
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October 22, 2019, 05:00:49 PM
#85
I have known bitcoin since 2013 and had stopped for almost two years without even looking at the price. I was really shocked how much the price grew. I knew when I forst read about bitcoin that it has a great long term potential, a revolutionary currency that can be used as an alternative medium of exchange. When I went back to crypto, I swear I won't hesitate anymore and will be part of it till it grows and gets massively adopted and accepted.
I am almost in the same shoes with you after reading briefly about bitcoin sometimes in 2014 I never really bothered to do more research about it the price then was very less at that time while I never envisaged BTC will  become  a big time financial revolution I came back into it again in early 2017 that was when i was fully involved however I always regretted not taking appropriate action after my early encounter with bitcoin.
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October 22, 2019, 11:29:15 AM
#84
Halving equals more scarce.
Halving equals less inflation.... it in no shape or form equals Bitcoin to be more scarce than it already. Scarcity in Bitcoin doesn't always play much of a role because during a bear market there are more sellers than buyers

It is not just about scarcity alone

As it is always about utility too as these two characteristics of an asset, service or good are complementary and work hand in hand. What I mean to say is that utility has the same effect on price as scarcity. If Bitcoin becomes more useful (when, for example, people start to use it more widely as a means of payment) its utility rises which leads to higher prices even if its scarcity doesn't change or even decreases (i.e. Bitcoin becomes more abundant). Conversely, if people become less interested in it, Bitcoin's utility goes down - along with its price
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October 22, 2019, 05:57:39 AM
#83

In 2016 saw a youtube video, and in there was a Chinese mining operator that did not speak english well  but would say just buy 1 BTC and many people laughed at him dunno if it was because of his accent or because he was a miner  promoting BTC. I thought about that back than and realized that 1 btc is attainable at 500 usd.
People can only perceive generally accessible things, basically everyone is thinking the same way and laughing like a flock of sheep if they saw or heard something funny. They didn’t even think about what he wanted to say, they only heard which way he was saying. After years each of them wants to go back and buy cheaply. So this Chinese can sincerely laugh at them.
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October 21, 2019, 09:26:23 AM
#82
Obviously if you wait too long, the price is too high.


This doesn't happen all of the time, it could go always the other way around because of its fluctuations (volatility), depends on its chart history (technical analysis) to have a clue what's gonna happen on the market. The technique you could use when you're planning to buy bitcoin at a certain price and don't regret it in the end is to be mature enough for your decision,

if you buy at $17,000 then the price starts to dump at $11,000, don't be afraid to hodl it, bear the market until it gets bullish then sell off your coins to bear profits.

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October 21, 2019, 07:07:32 AM
#81
You are very lucky to have been in the game for so long, i have been in it for 2,5 to 3 years. I got in it just before the bull market started but i did not rush in it unfortunately so I did not make a lot of money out of it. I wish i would have started my research 6 months earlier.
Oh well that's everybody's wish to be here much earlier, Though it's not the bull season now but you are still in the game so chances still there for you to maximize every opportunities that will open for you.

Make yourself more active and surely it will you more engaged and hopefully you'll gained  whatever your heart desire from this industry.
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October 21, 2019, 07:02:34 AM
#80
~ My point is that I think if we educate fundamentals which is tough we might win some hearts.

Indeed, people who know the fundamentals advantage of bitcoin technology will fall in love with bitcoin.
It's a currency/asset/commodity based on people's power not backed by any government like fiat currency.
Even for people who just want to store value in bitcoin rather than in fiat currency which always brings inflation.
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October 21, 2019, 06:52:19 AM
#79
That's the problem here, people are afraid of new things and will not believe unless they see some proofs.

Yes, that's important. The more cautious people are, the more they wait until buying in. Obviously if you wait too long, the price is too high.

If you want to make a profit in anything, it is generally important to get in early, when the risks are higher, and a lot more depends on your individual assessment of the potential future, rather than hard evidence. It's a question of judgement and risk-taking, and also of being insightful enough to see what it might become, and to assess the likelihood of that happening.
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October 21, 2019, 06:49:11 AM
#78
~snipe

I don't know where you get that information, but just in May 2017, the price was already $2k and it continued to rise up (up to the bubble). Is your decision investing in Bitcoin with your paycheck is wise? Absolutely not, and I hope you already learned your lesson. Don't make "greediness" as a trait, but keep it as a "perk".

My citation: History of Bitcoin

I think there is a typo. Most likely, not 2017, but earlier.
I can say about myself that I have heard about Bitcoin for a long time, but then I didn't consider it something serious and was afraid to take any wrong step. And also didn't buy it in 2017 during a rapid growth, but began to buy bit by bit in 2018.

Most likely yes. As I've checked the prices in 2017, it's more than $200, even in 2015 ~ 2016--it's already ranging from $300 ~ $800.

I can sympathize with you, that's one of my regrets because I've already known Bitcoin since 2015 IIRC. Because back then it wasn't that "big" of a deal, so I'm still in this mentality of "I have to study, get a degree, and work in a renown company" kind of thing. Which I don't think will work out anymore, as I become older--mature, I realized I don't have to do all that crap. In the end, I kinda wasted my time, but then again I wouldn't be like this if it wasn't for that experience. Anyway, your timing on buying Bitcoin is still "ok", for me (at least), I think 2018 is a good time to buy.
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October 21, 2019, 05:41:33 AM
#77
We can't blame those people who just laughed at us (bitcoin  believers), for them this is some kind of a joke. Not realizing we are benefiting from these kind of investment. We can predict anytime we want, the point here is that our prediction will gonna happen since cryptocurrency is a volatile thing. If we'll say bitcoin will gonna hit $15k, it will. If not for now, then for the upcoming years.

That's the problem here, people are afraid of new things and will not believe unless they see some proofs. Now, they can witness how bitcoin grow and how it develops well.
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October 20, 2019, 09:05:22 PM
#76
Halving equals more scarce.
Halving equals less inflation.... it in no shape or form equals Bitcoin to be more scarce than it already. Scarcity in Bitcoin doesn't always play much of a role because during a bear market there are more sellers than buyers.

When there are more sellers than buyers, it can take a while for the ratio between supply and demand settles to a point where the price stops going down and moves sideways for a while to later start appreciating again.
Bitcoin holders must consider themselves among the luckiest people. There are many people who desire bitcoin and obviously it is not available for same rates as years ago. Even during dips, it remains an expensive asset. But the beauty lies in its form. Being digital, an investor does not need to buy a whole coin at one time. Also, coming years will just raise its value beyond our imaginations.
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October 20, 2019, 06:39:23 PM
#75
very fortunate if you still have the remaining bitcoin savings, at least be calm with the predictions that are circulating. indeed not everyone believe it because of the current conditions that are less convicing, but i'm sure their doubts will be proven in the next few years
It takes a lot of risk to hold ever since and I admire OP for being a good hodler and believer. Yes, people are in doubt every time they lose money but bitcoin will remain calm and never to  get back from the old days, we are moving upward over time and its good to hold more. Panicking is not good for any investment, if you can't accept the risk of bitcoin then you might miss the best thing in the future, stay for a long time and learn more.
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