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April 05, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
#25
It is not clear why the topic is called all-in, but the essence of your post is clear, you need to trade with your own money, and not with borrowed money. I thought in this topic you would touch on the issue of proper risk management, when you can't to make a deal on the entire trading deposit, this is probably closer to understanding all-in.

But just like you can't trade with borrowed money, you can't trade all-in, as this can deprive you of your entire trading deposit even faster. I once watched an interview with one trader who worked for an investment company, the point was that the company accepted deposits from investors, and this trader was an employee of this company and traded this money. It all looks very dumb, but even this happens. And the depositors did not suspect anything of what great risk their investments lend to. This company of course failed and closed, because the rule was broken and trading was done with borrowed money.
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April 05, 2023, 01:44:27 PM
#24
It can sometimes be about how well you can trade and how reliable it could be. Another question in mind is if you are capable of it as well. You will not be able to do that entirely if you were not built like it or haven't had the chance to learn it because you will surely be able to if you manage to do it.

There should always be an emergency fund in case you cannot capitalize on trading and suddenly need some money. It would be best to try it before going all in.

The best knowledge and thing to do is to have that "risk management" that everyone should know.
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April 05, 2023, 01:15:44 PM
#23
I agreed with your trading technique how to manage fund when start trading exactly for beginner, its right way when having $1000 don't all in for one altcoin for trading with the same price. I have follow with this strategies how effective trading spent three until four kinds of price when entry on some coins.

I spent each $300 if having fund $1,000 for trading and not all in at the one coins, I think is very effective how anticipation when price going drop and have potential get chance on another time when our coins trading price drop. If all in on the same price $1000 seems not effective when price going drop we loss chance to reinvesting with lower price.
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April 05, 2023, 12:49:41 PM
#22
This is why I urge that before starting your trading journey, you need to have a hustle that pays you, get a job, or learn a skill. Begin anything that generates income so that you can devote a portion of it to your trading experience. And many of us have made a lot of mistakes along the way, and this is the antidote to that.

Good advice, one must have two or more financial means that will support the inflow of the trading income one is having, also we must know that trading also has it own shortfalls, you may be loosing for few consecutive days because you cannot be accurate at all times and being on point, this are the things that every beginners must know before trading, it involves taking risk and having enough patience, it also takes time and effort to study the trading patterns and speculations on bitcoin price, so having a clue on what's ahead is as good as avoid making future mistakes.
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April 05, 2023, 04:20:34 AM
#21
that's nice, but sometimes if someone enters the market in the right conditions he will be very lucky and make a very big profit.
but after that moment they will continue and start losing their luck.
I think one has to get used to losing or winning situations, so they can control their emotions to be more stable.
and you must not put emotion when trading , also best to get out once you already seen earning and never deal with greediness because there are so many factors that will change the momentum and you will be the one that could be responsible for anything that will come along the investment process.

Going All In is one stupid thing for me considering how much risk we must put in crypto investing, better to buy only the coins with diversification .
going all in if I don't think there is anything wrong with bitcoin, which usually invites risk because we invest in new altcoins, with the hope of having big profits. therefore the need for diversification in the hope of minimizing risk, because it places several coins. but when the price is bullish we have to keep thinking logically so we are not greedy in taking profits, because at any time the price can fall quickly and of course we regret it
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April 05, 2023, 01:22:26 AM
#20
that's nice, but sometimes if someone enters the market in the right conditions he will be very lucky and make a very big profit.
but after that moment they will continue and start losing their luck.
I think one has to get used to losing or winning situations, so they can control their emotions to be more stable.
and you must not put emotion when trading , also best to get out once you already seen earning and never deal with greediness because there are so many factors that will change the momentum and you will be the one that could be responsible for anything that will come along the investment process.

Going All In is one stupid thing for me considering how much risk we must put in crypto investing, better to buy only the coins with diversification .
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April 05, 2023, 01:08:25 AM
#19
I thought the meaning of the title was all in in trading using the capital we deposited on the stock exchange but apparently not.
I agree with what Op said, it would be very difficult to make trading a productive activity, while we don't have any other income that can cover all our needs, because trading is not an activity that definitely makes money, sometimes traders will experience losses when the market works opposite with what was predicted.
But unfortunately many new traders think that trading is a job that is guaranteed to pay off because they are poisoned with advertisements and content from traders who provide wrong information which in the end will only make new traders wrong about trading.
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April 04, 2023, 10:43:47 PM
#18
It is true that this is what actually happened to me, when I entered trading with all the capital I bought more than one coin but the prices started to fall and I no longer had enough money to consolidate and I had no other resource than the capital so I had to abandon some deals at a loss so that I could continue.
Don't have money to dollar cost averaging is bad but it is not the worst. The worst is if you go all in with your investment like invest in cryptocurrency and don't reserve any money for your life, you will repeat this style with your investment in cryptocurrency. By go all in with one coin that can be either Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB, Dogecoin or any shit token is shilled as hidden gem.

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As for now, I enter with a small part of the capital and I have a resource sufficient for reinforcement in the event of a price drop (I can add a new amount of capital every week through my work), so I no longer have to sell at a loss when the price drops, but rather I strengthen every time and so I get the opportunity to buy Good price areas.
Always be skeptical with the market and reserve part of your money for DCA and other things. You won't have to time in market, find bottoms and always have money to use in emergencies without have to forced sell your cryptocurrency at lower prices than your entries.

It's often our mistake when we go start learning to trade. We are excited and hopeful to make money not knowing completely how the market works.
But that also means those guys who go trading without much experience are the bold ones. And Fortune favors them right when they learn  Grin

I'm sure the majority who did trading without income flow learned well from past experience. But if they learned from reading advice threads like this, they may be saved from unfortunate events.
legendary
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April 04, 2023, 10:24:15 PM
#17
It is true that this is what actually happened to me, when I entered trading with all the capital I bought more than one coin but the prices started to fall and I no longer had enough money to consolidate and I had no other resource than the capital so I had to abandon some deals at a loss so that I could continue.
Don't have money to dollar cost averaging is bad but it is not the worst. The worst is if you go all in with your investment like invest in cryptocurrency and don't reserve any money for your life, you will repeat this style with your investment in cryptocurrency. By go all in with one coin that can be either Bitcoin, Ethereum, BNB, Dogecoin or any shit token is shilled as hidden gem.

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As for now, I enter with a small part of the capital and I have a resource sufficient for reinforcement in the event of a price drop (I can add a new amount of capital every week through my work), so I no longer have to sell at a loss when the price drops, but rather I strengthen every time and so I get the opportunity to buy Good price areas.
Always be skeptical with the market and reserve part of your money for DCA and other things. You won't have to time in market, find bottoms and always have money to use in emergencies without have to forced sell your cryptocurrency at lower prices than your entries.
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April 04, 2023, 08:30:08 PM
#16
It is true that this is what actually happened to me, when I entered trading with all the capital I bought more than one coin but the prices started to fall and I no longer had enough money to consolidate and I had no other resource than the capital so I had to abandon some deals at a loss so that I could continue.

As for now, I enter with a small part of the capital and I have a resource sufficient for reinforcement in the event of a price drop (I can add a new amount of capital every week through my work), so I no longer have to sell at a loss when the price drops, but rather I strengthen every time and so I get the opportunity to buy Good price areas.
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April 04, 2023, 07:49:13 PM
#15
I really agree with this statement, having steady income first will ensure that we will have emotional stability which helps in keeping our decision logical, even if we lose we could always make it up next month since we've got income anyway. I've witnessed many that take a loan and do it for trading, they thinks they are chosen one that gonna score billions but the truth is they aren't that chosen one, it's always good to have some backup plan since trading and investing always could go wrong, having income will save you from being totally bankrupt, at the very least you could have the chance of retrying again since you've got that income flowing in. otherwise you'd have a really hard time dealing with fulfilling your basic needs if you've got no money left since the trading takes away all your money.
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April 04, 2023, 05:15:10 PM
#14
not many have such thoughts in trading. Those who suddenly come and want to trade with their money, just want to get big profits instantly. Even though the initial goal was wrong and would even be at risk of the capital they used. no management is carried out, no strategy is made so that losses will dominate more.
and some of them also use Futures trading for a faster way to get profit, even though it is a deep abyss when you can't do proper analysis.
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April 04, 2023, 10:47:09 AM
#13
Everything that was said in the article you gave is good, and I agree a bit. Because of the topic that you have done, it just proves that entering crypto trading or even any trading business is not something that can be done lightly even without knowledge or idea but just thinking that it is easy to make money.

       It just proves that it really takes enough knowledge to enter the trading industry either crypto or Forex. You really need to spend time and time, it's not just overbite and the next day you know everything.
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April 04, 2023, 08:58:18 AM
#12
that's nice, but sometimes if someone enters the market in the right conditions he will be very lucky and make a very big profit.
but after that moment they will continue and start losing their luck.
I think one has to get used to losing or winning situations, so they can control their emotions to be more stable.
Recording losess and profits are the two basic functions that triggered a trader to either be good with the market or get even worsen when recording losses. Trading is not for the weak but with implemented setups, there's high chance of gaining from the market but we should bear in mind that not all times we wins, there are tough times in the market were we make losses in a row, all these sections are parts of learning. We should be in a stable emotions before opening trade, most of us triggered trades with the wrong impression, getting revenge from our past losses.
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April 02, 2023, 06:06:20 PM
#11
Without having a job or skills, I don't think it would be possible to even start trading. How will you generate money to start trading if you have no paying job or skill that's paying you? We already know it's not ideal to take loan and start trading. So for one to even think of of becoming a trader means that one has a source of income and what now matters is the percentage to set aside for the trading.

Not everyone actually think this way, the narrative of coming into cryptocurrency trading that some people had is that one could get rich and doesn’t need a job or another business. This narrative made some people invest all their savings into it and also quitting their jobs to focus the entire day looking at charts. They even pay for lessons and classes or for signals. This has worked for some early traders and there current holdings doesn’t need them to find jobs but the problem is new traders having this same mindset is why we see people selling off precious physical assets to get into trading.

If we want big profits, then our capital must also support it. However I agree more with consistent gains exactly as you say. Even small capital will continue to grow if we can get consistent profits. In my opinion, we should not be greedy to get big profits, because surely that will spur our ambition to make a mistake that will cost us later. So it's better to make profits but be consistent, than to get big profits but be inconsistent. But if we are able to do both, that's not a problem, as long as we feel we are capable of doing that, meaning that there should be no doubts that we feel.

The ideology to gain big profits should only be prioritized by an experienced trader. A new trader coming should actually limits the entry price small let’s say 20% of his wage into. Someone starting with lower amounts could definitely be patient in making any moves during trading but one with a higher entry amount will be looking at getting his profit high and could lead to mistakes that could blow up the enter funds
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April 02, 2023, 05:48:55 PM
#10
The key on here is not to "RUSH UP".

Usually people do really have this kind of target or aim specially when they are really just that starting.They would really be having that kind of aggressiveness towards on money making
and even thinking that this would really be just an easy thing for them to achieve.On the time comes on which they would really be on the battle field or actual trades then this is where
they do commit and experience huge losses just because they didnt really even bothered to learn up with the basics.This is where mistakes would piled up to each other
until you would be losing up hope on doing trades.
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April 02, 2023, 05:36:35 PM
#9
Without having a job or skills, I don't think it would be possible to even start trading. How will you generate money to start trading if you have no paying job or skill that's paying you? We already know it's not ideal to take loan and start trading. So for one to even think of of becoming a trader means that one has a source of income and what now matters is the percentage to set aside for the trading.
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April 02, 2023, 05:16:40 PM
#8
I agree, and also we need to have a proper enough money to trade. It is good to have a money that you can deposit anywhere you want. Sometimes, if you are into trading there will be some time you will regret not having extra money to invest because you have a limited fund. If you will pursue your career in trading aside from financial stability we need to have a emotional stability as well.
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April 02, 2023, 01:23:07 PM
#7

which could be $100, $500, or $1,000, and start your trading career. This will help your trading journey develop into a lovely experience in which you learn more quickly, peacefully, and at your own pace.



In trading I don't think that the amount used doesn't really matter if you know how to manage it because what matters is consistent profit. If you make 1% of profit consistently in a month then you may have made around 30% of $50 for instance and if you have been losing 1% of $50 in a month,you would have lost also 30%. The difference is how we can manage whatever capital we have and it is better for a new trader to start with little capital for the reason of mistakes and learning.
If we want big profits, then our capital must also support it. However I agree more with consistent gains exactly as you say. Even small capital will continue to grow if we can get consistent profits. In my opinion, we should not be greedy to get big profits, because surely that will spur our ambition to make a mistake that will cost us later. So it's better to make profits but be consistent, than to get big profits but be inconsistent. But if we are able to do both, that's not a problem, as long as we feel we are capable of doing that, meaning that there should be no doubts that we feel.
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April 02, 2023, 01:03:58 PM
#6

which could be $100, $500, or $1,000, and start your trading career. This will help your trading journey develop into a lovely experience in which you learn more quickly, peacefully, and at your own pace.



In trading I don't think that the amount used doesn't really matter if you know how to manage it because what matters is consistent profit. If you make 1% of profit consistently in a month then you may have made around 30% of $50 for instance and if you have been losing 1% of $50 in a month,you would have lost also 30%. The difference is how we can manage whatever capital we have and it is better for a new trader to start with little capital for the reason of mistakes and learning.
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