Topic: Begging for merit - page 2. (Read 942 times)

I wasn't begging for merit in that post, I was just illustrating the fact that all ranks were affected by the change. If you look at some of my other posts, you will see that I state that there is really no significant difference between Hero and Legendary. Even in the sig programmes that I have looked at, most seem to have the same rate for both ranks. I have been awarded some merit points, and these have generated some sMerit which I try to pass on, but I seem to be spending too much time on this, so I may have to back off for a while.

Where do you draw the line on begging? Does someone have to explicitly say "give me merit!" or could they be complaining about the merit system and sharing their "woe is me" story about how they were once so close to the next rank and now have to earn 100s of merit to get there?

Here's an example of what I'm talking about: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29000145

Shouldn't you ignore anyone responding to those requests for merit, be it directly or through as sob story?

I think these people will soon realize that there is no benefit of such behavior. Instead of begging, they should spend that time creating quality posts or at least learning from other senior members here.

Because it's hard to find a good post in the garbage can. Start any thread, users start abusing that thread by shitposting random stuff.
To be honest Bounties aren't going to help either. They just make things from bad to worse.

I keep looking at the other boards, but I'm having trouble finding posts that I like. There isn't really a lot about Bitcoin that is fresh.

I'll start looking at bounties soon, and maybe there will be something there. I've got a fairly broad concept of "crypto bounty". I include the rise in the value of crypto domain names as part of crypto bounty for example.

Why are users begging for merit? To look on one side, it seems to look like farming. But there is an other side too. Have a look, most of the people who have high amounts of merits are the ones who are posting in meta, whilst hardly any one is giving merit to those who are posting in other discussions in other boards. Users are impatient on the fact that the merit system has just been introduced and they just want to rank up and repeat the process of signature abusal.

Since the merit system still fresh , it require some time until all of non merit source spend all of this the rest of smerit.
From that moment, the forum will be not the old forum anymore but it has better quality that most of this people looking for

Cheers, did not really pay much attention to the account details. 

Anyone who gives you merit for this shit needs to be punched in the balls

Here you go then.

The merit system is like an earthquake that shock everybody. Very big surprise this 2018. The result is very amazing. The emotions from everywhere arises that couldn't be stop as in the situation of shock. Begging for merit is a result in the condition as in the present. For me we couldn't blame those people who beg for merit they are just in a hurry to rank up. Probably the begging for merit will continue until everyone immune to this system.

So please give me merit.      

As an abstract concept, I probably agree with you. However, you have to consider that merits and sMerits were created to solve a current problem, and that is the pollution and deterioration of the forum. To combat that you have to influence new posters to rebuild the forum. The past is the past, but we need to grasp the opportunities in the new future.

Begging for merit is revolting, reprehensible.  In part, it can be addressed through the forum’s technical features as you just said, or as hilariousetc said:


(Thanks; I will keep that in mind with my trigger finger on the “Report to moderator” button.)  ...or, as Lauda said:


However, begging for merit is a social problem; and social problems need social solutions.  Quoting part of what I myself said on the subject a few days ago:


Thus, I find this idea meritorious (boldface added):


If you find people begging for merit, trading merit, or farming merit, then you should name them, shame them!  Ridicule, insult, and humiliate them!  Make of them an object lesson not only to them, but also for all to see that such disgusting behaviour is NOT WELCOME HERE.

All functioning societies have both positive and negative feedback mechanisms for regulating members’ behaviour.  Here, the merit system itself is a positive feedback mechanism; and I believe it should stay that way.  (Much though I might sometimes wish to issue demerits, I also realize how such a thing would chill the expression of thoughtful but unpopular opinions.)  In the category of negative feedback mechanisms, shame and its sister shunning are the timeless classics which enforce the boundaries of social acceptability.  No community can long live without shame, just as no community can prosper without some basic notions of honour.

In a written medium, the pen is the sword.  Wield it wisely—and where needed, mercilessly.

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Copypaste is already permaban actionable.  Problem solved!

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I am strictly opposed to those threads.  I urge the people making those giveaways to reconsider.  Awards of merit should and must be an organic process.

Here and elsewhere, I disagree with you about the question of awarding merit to old posts.  The archives of this forum contain a hidden library of knowledge, especially in the “Development & Technical Discussion” section.  Awarding merit to old posts helps highlight them; where the authors are still active, such belated recognition also has direct utility.  The first merit I awarded to any post older than a month or so was for the post which first brought me to fully realize the problems with DHTs, and why Bitcoin does not and will not use a DHT.  I could not exclude such classics from consideration for merit awards.

I don't really like the concept of listing your posts for consideration by a merit faucet. If you are making good posts, and they aren't being noticed, then it means one or both of two things. The board or thread is clogged with rubbish, and that means we need more mods, or those who are designated merit faucets aren't reading the threads on the boards - if they stopped scavenging in the dead threads, and looked at the new ones, maybe that would help to solve this problem.

Am quite amazed you have a lot of activity but you dont know what merit is.Lol. I will just refer you to this original thread about the merit system to learn more about it.  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/merit-new-rank-requirements-2818350

What is merit?

These upper limits of merit will push people to do that because the main reason for their posts is signature Campaign.
like i say before
The gradual implementation of merit points and the increased activity of mods is the solution

Yes I totally agree with you. If they are begging they just want to participate in the signature campaign.
They don't want to learn anything which is not the purpose of this forum.
If they are up to mark, they have to create quality content which worth them the merit.

Begging for merit should be treated as attempting to trust farm. Therefore, those begging for merit should be permanently neg. rated IMO.

Begging for merit should be treated the same as begging for bitcoin and either threads trashed or posts removed, though I suppose in these circumstances the offending begging part could just be edited out by staff. It's only going to get more widespread as people start getting desperate for merit but it's unnecessary as if a post is good then it will naturally receive it. To be honest, I wouldn't even give a post merit regardless of it's 'greatness' if somebody was specifically asking for it.