I have to believe the pollution is a major obstacle for the economy. In some regards, it's hard to envision China overtaking the the United States as the preeminent economic power when they have such major air quality problems. A great deal of resources will be spent dealing with that problem, and all the related health problems that will come with it. I bet the cancer rates are going to be off the charts in 20 years for residents of Beijing and other polluted cities.
The major obstacle is china is not a democracy country. 
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I've read something about an interesting research years ago. I think it was this one.
I wonder if the government is considering this a priority. After all, a collapse in workers could be a problem... but perhaps old people will go first.
I wonder if the government is considering this a priority. After all, a collapse in workers could be a problem... but perhaps old people will go first.
Wow, that's an incredibly bleak picture, and as the study they reference was in the 1990s, I wouldn't be surprised to find that the problem is getting worse.
Quote from: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2013/07/130708-coal-burning-shortens-lives-in-china/
Life expectancy in northern China was 5.5 years shorter than in southern China in the 1990s, and a health risk disparity lingers today, a difference almost entirely due to heart and lung disease related to air pollution from the burning of coal, a new study shows.
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Since there are 500 million residents of Northern China, that means air pollution is associated with the loss of more than 2.5 billion life years of life expectancy, the study says.
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Since there are 500 million residents of Northern China, that means air pollution is associated with the loss of more than 2.5 billion life years of life expectancy, the study says.
2.5 billion life years lost due to air pollution. What a colossal waste!
I've read something about an interesting research years ago. I think it was this one.
I wonder if the government is considering this a priority. After all, a collapse in workers could be a problem... but perhaps old people will go first.
I wonder if the government is considering this a priority. After all, a collapse in workers could be a problem... but perhaps old people will go first.
These circumstances seem destined to force China to devote a lot of resources towards the problem of pollution.
I think the whole world is hoping that innovation will be tested and perfected in China in order to do that (if it isn't then the pollution is eventually going to affect everyone in the world).
I bet the cancer rates are going to be off the charts in 20 years for residents of Beijing and other polluted cities.
True - but as they don't have state funded health care for most people the expense will be born by the people (and China has an abundance of people).
The party leadership will have no choice but to address the situation to keep them complacent, or risk mass civil unrest. The party is only interested in maintaining power, and the people will only tolerate that as long as their lives are continuously improving. These circumstances seem destined to force China to devote a lot of resources towards the problem of pollution.
I bet the cancer rates are going to be off the charts in 20 years for residents of Beijing and other polluted cities.
True - but as they don't have state funded health care for most people the expense will be born by the people (and China has an abundance of people).
I have to believe the pollution is a major obstacle for the economy. In some regards, it's hard to envision China overtaking the the United States as the preeminent economic power when they have such major air quality problems. A great deal of resources will be spent dealing with that problem, and all the related health problems that will come with it. I bet the cancer rates are going to be off the charts in 20 years for residents of Beijing and other polluted cities.
This is a strategy of China, you all never understand 
Let me show you why,
We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water.
After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart.
If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable.
The air,water and food on earth will be polluted.
Do your know who will be survived?
The answer will be Chinese people
PS: Of course this is a joke.
Let me show you why,
We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water.
After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart.
If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable.
The air,water and food on earth will be polluted.
Do your know who will be survived?
The answer will be Chinese people
PS: Of course this is a joke.
And don't forget the ARK they built to survive apocalypse in 2012 movie
They will need it for sure in a 2020 =)
What about smog. They will decide this problem sooner or later. Newer cars with strict emiccion limits. No coal burning etc. Just a matter of development. Give them some time.
This is a strategy of China, you all never understand
Let me show you why,
We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water.
After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart.
If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable.
The air,water and food on earth will be polluted.
Do your know who will be survived?
The answer will be Chinese people
PS: Of course this is a joke.
Let me show you why,
We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water.
After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart.
If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable.
The air,water and food on earth will be polluted.
Do your know who will be survived?
The answer will be Chinese people
PS: Of course this is a joke.
And don't forget the ARK they built to survive apocalypse in 2012 movie
This is a strategy of China, you all never understand
Let me show you why,
We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water.
After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart.
If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable.
The air,water and food on earth will be polluted.
Do your know who will be survived?
The answer will be Chinese people
PS: Of course this is a joke.
Let me show you why,
We have polluted air, toxic food and contaminated water.
After all of this things, our body been tempered, we have a strong heart.
If the world war 3 happen, the nuclear way will be inevitable.
The air,water and food on earth will be polluted.
Do your know who will be survived?
The answer will be Chinese people
PS: Of course this is a joke.
This is what happens when the government doesn't care about people's health and want to save as much money as possible. Decades ago, there were proposals to replace gasoline-run vehicles in Beijing and Shanghai with those run with CNG. No one seriously considered it. Also, China is the no.1 consumer of coal, a highly polluting fuel.
This is the costs of economy growth, don't forget the London Smog?
But I would like to say this situation(smog) didn't happen every day, you could come across a sunny & clean weather in Beijing.
But I would like to say this situation(smog) didn't happen every day, you could come across a sunny & clean weather in Beijing.
That's why you can sell millions of fresh air cans.
YES. BOTTLED AIR! AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR IT!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271690/Bottled-AIR-Chinese-multimillionaire-sells-EIGHT-MILLION-cans-fresh-air-TEN-DAYS-pollution-levels-climb-record-high.html
YES. BOTTLED AIR! AND PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR IT!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2271690/Bottled-AIR-Chinese-multimillionaire-sells-EIGHT-MILLION-cans-fresh-air-TEN-DAYS-pollution-levels-climb-record-high.html
With that being said now comes the aftermath, ether the residence of cities like Beijing evacuate and relocate and change there business model, or they can stick around to slowly suffocate.
Beijing not most polluted city
Ahvaz, Iran:
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Ahvaz, Iran:
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China make a lot of pollution yes, but the climate there makes it much worse!
At least masks there are cheap as dirt to make
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Looks fine to me
Any locals have any input on this situation?
I think its not visible, but the constituents in the air, that probably make it bad for health. I am sure this will pose a problem in the near future.
Float/tether some blimps with carbon recyclers and hoses down to the ground.
They actually have marathons in that smog!
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