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August 21, 2016, 05:59:34 AM
#82
   I don't know what to think about this, I play dices with their money, just from faucets. I don't invest my money into their sites, when even I tried to play with their money I lost. Because of that I`m afraid to deposit my money, I'm afraid I will lose my hard earned money in a second.
   I don't know is it me and my luck, or they are not fair, I can`t win nothing there. I always lose their faucets very fast, when ever I bet x 1.2 or  x 5 I lose. I see many people play, some have luck and win. I doubt that I will ever believe in dice sites enough to put my money there.
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August 21, 2016, 05:52:04 AM
#81
i don't think so if they are fair because they are also giving verifier to verify your game if you are not experience of fraud in their site..
Unless if you are professional in extracting the website to know the script of the site is not fraudulent..
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Reich mir die Hand
August 21, 2016, 05:07:18 AM
#80
Dice is a software. Like at other software, you can get to know much about it from its source code. You can see it for yourself and you could consult with a trusted expert about it. When the source code is not available, extra high caution is advised, but you can still suggest from certain patterns. Even BCT's Staff said in their thread when source code is not available, the little red lamp in your head should light up.


Most bitcoin dice games base their fairness on cryptography - roll result is determined by hash of two seeds - one generated by casino and one by client. Casino generate their seed first, and revel its hash, so they have no way to alter the bet after player makes it. All seeds and hashes are reveled after roll, so players can easily check that everything was fair. So, you don't need source code at all.

That's true. Even without the source code if you know what you're doing then on the seeds and hashes you can guess how fair the game was. It is possible to check by any player in the game.
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 05:02:33 AM
#79
Dice is a software. Like at other software, you can get to know much about it from its source code. You can see it for yourself and you could consult with a trusted expert about it. When the source code is not available, extra high caution is advised, but you can still suggest from certain patterns. Even BCT's Staff said in their thread when source code is not available, the little red lamp in your head should light up.


Most bitcoin dice games base their fairness on cryptography - roll result is determined by hash of two seeds - one generated by casino and one by client. Casino generate their seed first, and revel its hash, so they have no way to alter the bet after player makes it. All seeds and hashes are reveled after roll, so players can easily check that everything was fair. So, you don't need source code at all.
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Reich mir die Hand
August 21, 2016, 04:53:20 AM
#78
Dice is a software. Like at other software, you can get to know much about it from its source code. You can see it for yourself and you could consult with a trusted expert about it. When the source code is not available, extra high caution is advised, but you can still suggest from certain patterns. Even BCT's Staff said in their thread when source code is not available, the little red lamp in your head should light up.
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 04:46:07 AM
#77
As others mentioned. Bitcoin/crypto gambling sites is usually fair because of their provably fair algorithm. Thought, you will need to read about their provably fair. Some of it can be rigged while some can't. You really have to read it up yourself. By far I think that DirectBet and PrimeDice provably fair system is one of the best.
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August 21, 2016, 04:39:45 AM
#76
i found a site that shows how to verify a bet but i forgot the name of the site and it also shown how to verify the bet
yes i believe in gambling that use provably fair
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August 21, 2016, 02:14:35 AM
#75
Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?
Though i know they are show about probably fair but honestly i don't believe it because we never know from where we got the results,
legendary
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August 21, 2016, 01:53:57 AM
#74
dice games are as fair as it gets, it is a bad game to play because you are always at a disadvantage mostly because of the house edge which exists in the game.
and there is no strategy in the world that can remedy that for you. you can check the history and stats of the dice players if it is not fake then they will all be in a loss in long term with a negative number showing it.
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August 21, 2016, 12:52:07 AM
#73
Hey all, i playing at a few site dice game then trying for betting. Then why every bet with big amount like be rigged? always lost. And i things i'm not lucky, but i still play same like that and same happens like this. So are you believe with Verification > PROVABLY FAIR > SEED >HOW TO VERIFY?

No, i think it is total fair, but in gambling most of the chances of lost your amount, so thats why you feel it, but i believe, nothing is wrong in it. But my opinion is chance from you, because i think it is easy game and a lot of chances has to win in it.
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August 20, 2016, 11:23:45 PM
#72
yep. its hard to believe for me..for exmple if we play dice manually its hard to get number 1 for 4x streak but in online dice u can get 4x streak in 10 minutes  Grin

if by manually you mean rolling by clicking the roll button each time instead of using the auto bet then there is no difference.

but if by manually you mean rolling a physical dice then you are mistaking the numbers. in a physical dice you roll there is only 6 sides so only 6 possible numbers whereas in online dice there is a lot of possible numbers from 0.00 to 100.00
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August 20, 2016, 11:06:34 PM
#71
yep. its hard to believe for me..for exmple if we play dice manually its hard to get number 1 for 4x streak but in online dice u can get 4x streak in 10 minutes  Grin
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 10:16:41 PM
#70
Personally I wouldn't trust without good reason otherwise. I think most casino's that have dice are legit. Though maybe a few can hide it with good cunning ? It is possible. I would like to believe most casinos are honest Smiley

Yes, at least most of the trusted sites on this forum are fair in a dice game. But don't know how the new sites maintain their games fairness so I don't gamble on any new sites until they proved honest. Anyway in dice game we can't win in the long run because only luck can bring money in this game so I won't spend much money on this dice game.
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August 20, 2016, 10:09:30 PM
#69
Personally I wouldn't trust without good reason otherwise. I think most casino's that have dice are legit. Though maybe a few can hide it with good cunning ? It is possible. I would like to believe most casinos are honest Smiley
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August 20, 2016, 10:02:12 PM
#68
I believe that casinos with real provably fair system implemented are more trustworthy that standard FIAT online casinos where you can play with dollars or euro.
I mean from what I know non-crypto casinos usually won't even tell you how outcome of a game is determined - you just have to blindly trust that their random number generator is fine.
yeaaa i think bitcoin casino with high trust and tons of experience have more transparency.
they provide a code called hash etc and let us verify it with certain method.
and so far it's make sense , as long as it makes sense for me we can trust it.
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August 20, 2016, 09:40:10 PM
#67
That is just a common scenario for a long time player. Some of that is like this winning in the beggining then lossing. Win big then lose all. Thats very common it just happen because no one can win in the long run in gambling. Eventhough they are trusted if you think they are rigging you then dont play on that site. As simple as that.
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August 20, 2016, 09:01:07 PM
#66
I believe that casinos with real provably fair system implemented are more trustworthy that standard FIAT online casinos where you can play with dollars or euro.
I mean from what I know non-crypto casinos usually won't even tell you how outcome of a game is determined - you just have to blindly trust that their random number generator is fine.
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August 20, 2016, 08:48:41 PM
#65
Gambling at dice are fair?

Not all gambling site are fair better look at the background of the site and ask for some if your chosen site is good and profitable.

in dice game there were some sites that are just taking advantage of those who are desperate of winning, who are betting big amount, they will let you win in your first trials but when you get along then there will you be losing your money.

So better chose a reliable sites where you can play, enjoy and earn!
And this is better way asking here at the forum.
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August 20, 2016, 07:08:13 PM
#64
Yes i do believe they are all provably fair means these can be trusted.Some times we loss at very small odds or loss consecutively 6-7 times then we think they are not fair and cheating.But thats only the bad luck,the sites which are provably fair are trustable.
Yup in Dice game losing our coins is common. Because of that, we should not blame site owners. The Dice game is made like that if you are lucky your number will appear. Otherwise no. Here only our luck will decide that we are in profit/lose.  So we should trust them that they are probably fair.   

In dice game, it is very common to hit consecutive losses especially the longer you play, the higher the chance to hit the losses. And the fair systems is a work of the genius. It is similar to the encryption code of the emails and other online security systems whereby it requires 2 keys to encrypt or decrypt the code.

Well I think it is. The looses and winning numbers are equal I suppose, the fact that we are loosing is that we are not perfectly timed to those win streaks or just that we are betting high amount on those loose streak. So I think, Luck is what makes us win and the perfect timing. And when we loose, it is not in the provably fair to blame. The word speaks for itself, Provably Fair
I think in Dice game if we compare lose and win numbers, The lost number will appear many times. I don't know how but I faced this problem. When I start the game, the numbers will come in my favour but after few roll automatically I lose everything that I earn. So I don't know it is my fault or site fault. Maybe site owners are fair it's my bad luck that's it.

You simply can't keep winning forever, because there is always the risk, and sooner or later you will get bad streak. I suggest you to withdraw and fixate part of your winnings to increase your value over gambling session.

Yeah, not forever gambling profits. Rather the majority of gambling will give us a lot of defeat and we can only benefit if we can do the bet correctly. Unless you already know his game, will definitely be a little bit of draw or the advantages that you get
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August 20, 2016, 05:00:30 PM
#63
Yes i do believe they are all provably fair means these can be trusted.Some times we loss at very small odds or loss consecutively 6-7 times then we think they are not fair and cheating.But thats only the bad luck,the sites which are provably fair are trustable.
Yup in Dice game losing our coins is common. Because of that, we should not blame site owners. The Dice game is made like that if you are lucky your number will appear. Otherwise no. Here only our luck will decide that we are in profit/lose.  So we should trust them that they are probably fair.   

In dice game, it is very common to hit consecutive losses especially the longer you play, the higher the chance to hit the losses. And the fair systems is a work of the genius. It is similar to the encryption code of the emails and other online security systems whereby it requires 2 keys to encrypt or decrypt the code.

Well I think it is. The looses and winning numbers are equal I suppose, the fact that we are loosing is that we are not perfectly timed to those win streaks or just that we are betting high amount on those loose streak. So I think, Luck is what makes us win and the perfect timing. And when we loose, it is not in the provably fair to blame. The word speaks for itself, Provably Fair
I think in Dice game if we compare lose and win numbers, The lost number will appear many times. I don't know how but I faced this problem. When I start the game, the numbers will come in my favour but after few roll automatically I lose everything that I earn. So I don't know it is my fault or site fault. Maybe site owners are fair it's my bad luck that's it.

You simply can't keep winning forever, because there is always the risk, and sooner or later you will get bad streak. I suggest you to withdraw and fixate part of your winnings to increase your value over gambling session.
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