Topic: Benefit from Higher Education? - page 12. (Read 2116 times)

There is nothing wrong with our parents having such thoughts, because in our parents' time, very few people were well educated. The rich people at that time were all highly educated people, they also sent their children to school to later take over the estate. But nowadays, going to school and getting a university degree is no longer too difficult, anyone can do it, so having a university degree is no longer a guarantee for a bright future.

When a world has developed, we also need to develop to adapt to it, many young people think that having a university degree is better than others but forget to look back that everyone is the same.
They begin to blame education when unemployed, but if they work hard to hone their skills, stay motivated, and be ready to do whatever is assigned, they will always get the job they want. They have not done anything for society but always want society to pay them, that is the wrong thinking of today's young people.

Well, well! Success without luck? Disney or real life? Even while luck might play a role, hard effort, dedication, and even sacrifice are necessary to achieve greatness. Education matters, but let's not overstate it.

Education doesn't ensure financial success either. Some of my sharpest friends struggle, while others who never went to school perform well. Remember that classroom learning is limited, and certain topics can only be learned by doing.

School isn't the key to success, but it's helpful. You think? Do you think non-educational variables affect success?

I am not against the salary class people and I respect their decision about survival and being responsible but the context of this thread is what I am talking and education don't really help entrepreneurs since we are talking about them if I am not wrong.

Just my assumption though by end of 2030 no one will be really get job based on their degrees since we are at the AI era so now skill does really matter than a piece of paper called certificate of completion by spending 3 or 4 years along with tons of money on the tution fee. 

Yes, you might be aware of this as an individual but its not really that simple for you to make yourself on having no education and would be focusing into something just because you dont really like to trap up

yourself into this common life cycle on which on having that 8-5 job, but if you are really that in need and minding on how to survive then you wouldnt really be thinking about being a billionaire but rather you would really be mainly thinking on how to get a job and survive your daily living specially when you do have a family then you would really be lowering up your pride.Education is still really that much needed
because having a degree would really be putting you at advantage to get some job opportunity and the rest of opportunity grasping would really be depending on a certain individual.

BTW getting a job will never let to become a billionaire, we need to work more than 100 years and save the salary completely without spending it so it means all the billionaires doesn't become one as being an employee.

Getting a college degree is nothing but wasting our valuable time from a billionaire's POV and many said that too so skill is important to make money and the education system then getting a decent job will only lead to lifetime trap cycle.

I guess a superior degree is more interesting if you are willing to work on the field you are studying about, even if it means to work for someone else.

Entrepreneurship is more related to a state of mind than degrees, because it's notorious there are people who only attended to the basic educational levels and still do very well on their entrepreneurship journey, more than some people who have superior education.

Without any doubts a high educational level is very important and will open your mind to new knowledge and lead you through new contacts channels, which are essential on your career, however, it won't mean you are going to be a skilled businessman for that reason.

State schools, which have relatively low fees and are almost free, in fact, have relatively low facilities and qualifications. so that the delivery of lessons is also sometimes hampered by a lack of facilities. and it will be different from favorite private schools which have complete facilities so that those studying there have high enough qualifications and learning also runs more effectively with the help of adequate facilities.

and we cannot close our eyes that sometimes the background of the diploma where we go to school is also a consideration for some companies in accepting new employees. So graduates from favorite high schools sometimes like to be prioritized by a company in accepting new employees.

But there are also many successful people who were born into poor families. but usually these people do have high and consistent willpower and hard work every time. they are constantly struggling in self-development. and I like successful people who start from the bottom. but usually they also try to absorb as much education as possible even though it has to be from non-formal education.

True, even though we still need education for a number of reasons such as qualifications or whatever it is for ourselves but still for entrepreneurship apart from knowledge and discipline of course tenacity also enters here.
Because these conditions are a little different, regardless of anything, we won't be able to make a breakthrough just by capitalizing on an educational certificate because things like this won't guarantee that we can do much in real life.

This is true; those who say education is unnecessary can double-check that developed countries always have quality education. Education can be considered a top priority because they know that education creates geniuses to serve the country, and the richest people in this world are all from those developed countries.

I also come from a developing country, and the sad thing is like you said, the cost of education is expensive, and education has so many problems, and that's also why many people feel that education is unnecessary. Wealthy families in my country send their children to study abroad in developed countries because they know well that education is the core of success.

It can be said that education is the key to success, many successful people and become the world's richest people always have a good educational background, in developed countries of course almost everyone gets a good education, this is different from my country which is still developing and the cost of education is very expensive and only rich people can, in fact the government provides free education facilities, unfortunately the quality of education in government schools is not good.

Having a higher education or simply graduated from studies will benefit you more compare to those who didn't, but on the other hand, it isn't guarantee that having a higher education or graduated from studies will make you an entrepreneur.

Overall, it will come to how knowledgeable you are in what you are doing. Statistically, 95% of the entrepreneurs have a bachelor's degree, and that's because they learned from their school, and just learned themselves after graduating. The other 5%? Probably these are the ones who had mentor when they are starting, and they learned from them, thus became a businessman.

Having a higher education have many benefits as well, but TBH, as long as you have a mentor or somebody that will help you all the way, you can learn what the school is teaching to the students when it comes to entrepreneurship, or in some cases, mentors might teach some things that aren't being taught in school, and vice-versa.

Most of these people you mentioned are celebrities or athletes and so they are not good examples for entrepreneurs either!

You should be looking at founders and people who have created successful businesses or their own online empires for inspiration - and by online empires, I mean large mailing lists, websites, podcasts, youtube channels that are their own.

I heard that people are going into digital marketing, but honestly, I am not interested in that niche.

I will speak for myself - my higher education, bachelor diploma only gave me a place among candidates who company was planning to hire. My higher education was only the criteria employer used to select candidates for job interview. During interview, non on skills that I have gained during studying in school/university, were tested. I’ve got the position, trial period at work. During that time, my skills of computer usage and ability to learn were most demanded. I would say that I rarely use skills that I’ve gained from higher education at work.

P.S. I have studied finance, analytics and etc in university, I work in a company that is connected with finances.

As you say it is not necessary, that is correct. But is it helpful? Oh I think it is very helpful in many regards. Education means you have gone through a lot of reading and learning, it helps you navigate through literature and provides you with an understanding of how to efficiently and effectively conduct research on a subject of interest. That could happen any time when you are an entrepreneur. You want to get a quick overview of a certain topic and you have come across stuff in the past so you know where to go and what words to look up and perhaps even which sources to refer to.

It also helps you with raising money. Whether people like it or not, but higher education is a plus, it is not a must when your idea or perhaps the prototype (recommendable to have) speaks for itself. The prototype does, the idea not. But if you are very early in the process and you need funds, having an idea is great but your CV will count a lot more than if you were able to present a prototype. If you have the idea and higher education, it does definitely help to gain trust from investors easier as it is often said to imply that you may have a more structured thought process that led you to certain conclusions. I am not saying that that is necessarily the case, but I am sure that higher education helps with raising funds.

Entrepreneurship can be done at different levels, I mean that at first it may not necessarily be a big business that will require a lot of money. If you know how to look for opportunities, then you may be able to find a product for sale, now this is a very common business model.

The most important thing you will need to do is find a platform on which you can list your product and set up ads in such a way that buyers visit these platforms. I say this to the fact that you don’t need to have a lot of money in order to engage in entrepreneurship on a small scale, and you don’t need higher education for this either. There are also companies that, for a separate payment, will set up advertising for you properly, that is, everything will be done for you.

But I consider higher education necessary if you understand why you need it, if you want to become a specialist in a certain field and purposefully go towards it.

Basically, knowledge is very important in life, although on the other hand, there are also many highly educated people who don't have jobs but indirectly educated people can be superior in terms of knowledge if you want to start a business with only knowledge capital, in my opinion, that's not enough because besides knowledge you also have to have courage, skill and strong determination.

Well, if you decide to be an entrepreneur, higher education is not necessary. IMO, one of the many reasons why people with high education became entrepreneurs statistically it's because they have enough funds to start their entrepreneurial journey as they also have high paying jobs. Also, unless your college degree has something to do with entrepreneurship, then I guess it does not really matter as it won't add to your knowledge.

Higher education didn't help anything especially if you don't have specific discipline knowledge. The truth is Higher education is just trying to open your mind and mindset to be realistic and logical. with that thinking, you will able to do something which not you get in college. Yes, I felt that after graduation a last year ago, I have a job now which is not relevant to what I got in college, but i have to use my mind and my logic to solved the company problem where I don't received that on college.

reaching success always comes from many think and I think luck have biggest role in it even with higher education you know some just doesn't cut it to be a succesfull individual.
I'd say if there's anything we can do to improve our chance of success even if it through education then it's only normal to just get the highest education, after all there's nothing wrong in it since it's considered investing in yourself anyway.
There are many justification around why should one not getting any higher education but I think that's just some justification that's not really true if you have the chance to get higher education even if it's in your late age, I think one should always take the chance.
education isn't all about gaining massive success afterwards anyway, one could grow their minds from the education itself, to become a better person.

I think success is not only about higher education but also about business. Apart from higher education, it has its own advantages, as you say, but people who are successful and become rich, they have a good background, have a lot of experience, support from parents who have names (famous), support from many people, large capital. .

There are also those who really go from 0 to success, BUT they are SPECIAL, what I mean here is that they are diligent people, always try, dare to take challenges, always and dare to try, fail? Keep trying, smart thinking, business brain, painstaking, tenacious.