Topic: Best Bitcoin mining software for linux? (Read 1029 times)

You are right,  The name doesn't change.  This is so because if the name "CGMINERS" changes,  users may lose awareness. What changes is the operation process and this change is due to the high power consumption and limited processing speed of crypto mining which renders CPU and GPU based mining processes inefficient.

exactly, people found blocks with usb miner in 2022 and its good that kano is catering to the users of those usb miners

its not impossible for a GPU to do the same, where there's a will there's a way, so they say!

its about time a big player like Intel got into the game!

ASIC Specifications
Hash Rate (GH/s)   Up to 580 GH/s
Power Consumption   4.8 – 22.7 W

I cant wait to see AMDs response! Threadripper style

It does make more sense to use the Gekkoscience's usb sticks as they are vastly more efficient (and certainly more silent) than gpus. Don't forget some people found blocks early this year with Compac F, so you may never know...

bfgminer can talk to S9? Well either way for other hardware you would need to add support yourself. Hmm i wonder what is being used with the new Intel asics... ckpool/ckproxy code has been available for years.

personally we have 2x s19j pro on standby, switch on time is 2-3 weeks from now and we are actively seeking advice on:

• reducing fan RPM (dB) - there is talk of reduction to about 3500 RPM but that would probably still be too much dB
  
  
• solo mining from local bitcoind - our initial testing with 20GH/s from GPUs is not successful, we are only able to use BFGMiner or cgminer/hashcat
  

just over one year ago we attempted BFGMiner stratum proxy with s9s but BFGMiner reported only a fraction of the speed (perhaps 1/30 or thereabouts) and at that time i think ckpool code was not available (thats why we was using BFGMiner)

Either - would do it if you want them quiet.

The new Gekko that runs up to 2TH at under 100W or the older Apollo that can do up to 4?TH at around 250?W

Edit: of course you can get bigger faster miners that make some or a lot more noise,
but then you gotta deal with modding them by installing different firmware and also using 1-3kW of power per miner.

Of course if you do that it will make more BTC for the same power as a bunch of pod miners and also cost less to buy.
e.g. you can apparently get a ~100TH S19 for around $1200 - $1400 at the moment - but that needs ~3kW and makes a lot of noise.

Apollo or Gekko? Or perhaps something else?

Well do you run 10000 GPUs at 3MW
or sell 10 or 20 of them and run 10 almost silent pod miners at total 2kW

Both the same hash rate.

How is that even a question worth debating?

If you can't sell 10 or 20 of them, clearly there's the issue of why you even have access to them.

you are paranoid, we are simply attempting to utilise our existing hardware on the bitcoin blockchain, not altcoins or anything else, no nefarious intentions, we can our GPUs for other applications when not mining, we cant use a pod miner for something else, also ASIC fans generate alot of noise

to quote: "Miners with old/inefficient miners that will never earn any rewards through regular mining that wish to leave it mining as a lottery"

i can only hope someone else with more nuance replies

Clearly someone who is trying to scam people and steal electricity and GPU power by hacking computers.

Why is that obviously true?

Simple: if you have 2 300W GPUs and sold them for $600, you could buy a 200W 2TH/s Pod miner that will mine 1000 times faster, and use 1/3 of the power.
That's 1000 times better for Bitcoin and 1000 times more BTC when you mine - FOR ZERO COST - and only 1/3 of the power cost.

If it's a single current high performance 300W GPU that you could sell for $600, again you could buy a 2TH/s Pod miner and again mine 1000 times faster and use 2/3 of the power.
That's again 1000 times better for Bitcoin and 1000 times more BTC - FOR ZERO COST - and only 2/3 of the power cost.

... and that's just 1 or 2 GPUs ...

If instead you are stealing power and hacking peoples's computers to use their GPUs, then there's no cost involved.

Worse if you are using 3MW of power to run  10000 high performance GPUs and only getting the same as a 2kW (10) pod miners, you are doing something beyond ridiculous. Just sell 10 or 20 of those 10000 GPUs and you will match the hash rate, and use only a exceptionally tiny fraction of the power: 2/3000

Though I've explained this to you before, you seem to not understand $, simple math, and Bitcoin.

Again you are doing something stupid, or more likely a hacker and scammer stealing power and computer access.

i think thats enough kano

for those who want to gpu mine BTC (on AMD GPU - valid 22 December 2022):


I would suggest large number of GPUs to make a ckpool proxy/passthrough and direct shares through that as one connection to their chosen pool

we've found cgminer to be producing a slightly higher hashrate than BFGMiner, which is good

hope it helps you OP

On a more educational 'for the community' note:
 Just peruse -ck's git repository and compile/setup one of the early versions of cgminer that still supported what you want. Since you will also have to mine to your own node because no mining pool will accept your required work diff & share rate you won't need stratum which was introduced long after cpu/gpu support was dropped. Just dig in, learn, and code what you may need yourself. With the code being open-source no one here can nor should stop you. We just are not going to support your endovour

Of course you will also lose all the other performance & security updates contained in the later versions unless you also dig through the code and apply them as desired. AFAIK most would not impact your project of using cpu/gpu's. Heck, ask the right questions in a thread dedicated to your goal and some other capable coder(s) might show up to help. Just don't expect the main devs (well, 1 remaining active dev) of the software to be interested or encourage it.

Sigh, ok since you wont listen, after multiple times being told, even right back when you started posting this stupidity,
go read the rules of this part of the forum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-mining-intro-rules-of-this-subforum-read-before-posting-2415854

your perspective is valid but i disagree with the content of your post, we are helping the bitcoin ecosystem, you are just unable to see it

i also am uncertain of your mentioning of a participation trophy or folks that say they're mining btc - it is irrelevant to OP and my posts and also not correct

alot of negativity from yourself

lets get back to facts, more hashrate on the blockchain is more hashrate, you are completely wrong about everything you've just said

something that is thrown about alot on this forum is, the fact that: it doesnt matter how much hashrate you have, you either get 'lucky' or you dont, however more hashrate does mean more chance of hitting a block, sure, also yours and kanos negativity towards people on this forum like myself or OP is unfortunate and you should change it, for the love of bitcoin... i do understand, sure, there is alot of bad blood here and i get it, but we do deserve better


as for 'the-powers-that-be', its up to them to make the decision to help newbies, not yours

i guess kano just cant be bothered to write some new code, obviously alot on the plate and then people like you just want the opportunity to chime in on how 'inefficient it is' and how its 'pointless'

so let me remind you, inefficient? a non-issue, doesnt matter to us

pointless? in not the slightest way

its proven that blocks can be mined solo these days at this difficulty even with a usb miner running at, say 200-300GH/s?

therefore - someone running 20GH/s with GPUs has a chance

why force CPU or GPU miners to go mine another coin with your words? its the bitcoin blockchain we want to mine on

Bringing back a not only highly inefficient but also highly pointless way to mine BTC is *not* improving the community. It is pandering to the whims of a few folks that want to play with themselves and say they are 'mining BTC' when in-fact they are in no way helping the BTC ecosystem.

Should we care that they want to do that? Nope. It's their choice. If they feel they deserve what amounts to a Participation Trophy, well, whatever floats yer boat but guess what... Should the Powers-That-Be help them do it? Hell nope. That's *our* choice.

you are fixated on this scam coin thing. we are here trying to mine bitcoin, not any alt coins

kano, you give off very negative vibes from what i read your posts on this forum, whats up?

why call us an idiot because we want to mine with our gpus? your just being nasty, im just here to improve the community

we know its inefficient, mining with a gpu, sure, but we dont care

Well the amount of code and the number of commits I have since 2011 is rather relevant also
Yeah I'm only 2nd to a certain person, in the list of that for cgminer.
It's all there in the both his and my git up until he quit.
My git it where I originally put code before it was pushed to his git, now it just stays in my git.

And he would be right to do so because Kano has done a fair bit of updates to cgminer since -ck stopped supporting it & locked his git. Now, if someone wants to add more hardware support to the out-of-date version, fine and dandy but that would be a pretty silly thing to do.

As for the community 'needing cpu/gpu support': This is the Bitcoin area - not alts - BTC outgrew being mineable with them long long ago. Since Kano has rather strong feelings regarding scamcoins (which are the only thing mineable with cpu/gpu) that ain't gonna happen.

Your an idiot.
It doesn't need it.
Only scamcoins want it.

yeah the name is fine, but the community needs cpu and gpu support back kano!

what if there is a hidden killswitch inside every bitmain or canaan or other asicminer? a doomsday switch where they just dont work when the clock strikes 10, bitcoin would survive if there was cpu/gpu miner support

how much would you want in bitcoin to develop a brand new cpu/gpu miner from scratch? or advise myself/others on making one?

im certain a brand new one from scratch can do better hashrate than BFGMiner which is 10? years old

Yeah I can pull the IRC records of the discussion back in 2012.
I came up with ... BFG ... Bitcoin FPGA GPU miner (and of course it also means Big Fucking Gun)
Someone, who happened to be in the IRC channel at the time, stole that name shortly after that ...

But anyway, yeah it didn't change back when we removed CPU and it isn't going to happen now.

It really doesn't matter what the letters mean, it's a name and it stays.

It's like asking what the fuck does Coke mean?
Well it means it has cocaine in it. Yep Coke originally had cocaine in it.
Then they stopped doing that ... ... ... but didn't change the name.