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Quote from: sinner on March 14, 2016, 09:11:17 PM

whats 1 dapp that i might actually use, and why would i use it? why does that dapp need to be handcuffed to the rent-seeking ethereum blockchain?

rent-seeking blockchains
at least there is some competition
but a Dapp could unplug and move to the cheapest/best asset platform
if there are handcuffs ... caution!

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Quote from: Minecache on March 15, 2016, 05:42:53 AM

Quote from: themasknetwork on March 14, 2016, 06:08:49 PM

Simple question : What if augur.net goes down or it's shut down ? If it's a decentralized app i should be able to use it right away somewhere else.

That's the idea. Unstoppable dapps without boarders or any controlling authority beyond the Turing complete smart contract.

Unstoppable Huh

Then, please, give me an answer here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/simple-questions-about-ethereum-nobody-can-answer-1398969

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Quote from: themasknetwork on March 14, 2016, 06:08:49 PM

Simple question : What if augur.net goes down or it's shut down ? If it's a decentralized app i should be able to use it right away somewhere else.

That's the idea. Unstoppable dapps without boarders or any controlling authority beyond the Turing complete smart contract.

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Quote from: bitcoinrocks on March 14, 2016, 07:20:16 PM

I believe you can download the page from augur.net and execute it locally.

"The page" is a simple html result of a backend process. You need the source code and install the source code on your server.

Augur is not a decentraalized app. It's a website offering bets with no betting licence and no contact details.

DAPP over ethereum need an interface that ususally reside on a centralized server. While the base app code is running over a decentralized network, the interface and user interaction is over a simple web site, controlled by an third party.

Anyway, i have a much important question : What if augur team decide to shut down the dapp (send a kill signal). What happens with customer funds ? The address owning a contract can shut it down or update it anytime they want.

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whats 1 dapp that i might actually use, and why would i use it? why does that dapp need to be handcuffed to the rent-seeking ethereum blockchain?

i've heard Augur mentioned a lot, but there are already lots of sportsbooks and prediction markets. and the government isnt shutting them down. many are publicly owned and operating legally. most are offshore (meaning outside the US, even the ones that are open to US customers). people in general do not care if the thing is decentralized. they want customer support. i think the traction on augur might be comparable to the traffic on swcpoker. i looked into pokereum at one point but the devs seem clueless and inactive.

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Quote from: themasknetwork on March 14, 2016, 06:08:49 PM

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Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:25:24 AM

Please explain the advantage of running these apps on ether?

Quote from: Minecache on March 14, 2016, 11:21:55 AM

I'm psyched for Augur and Slock.it

Augur - a trustless, decentralized, unregulated, low fee prediction market. This IMO is the biggest initial use case for Ethereum. These types of industries are notorious for corruption, high fees, and government interference. With smart contracts on a decentralized system... its resistant to all those things. There is potential there to take the gambling industry by storm.

Slock.it is a very interesting project, but I have a harder time understanding why it is a good fit for a decentralized system as opposed to a centralized one. I think the main benefit is that it could allow for an IoT based transaction ecosystem that doesn't require vendor lockin, but the path to that doesn't seem very clear.

Augur.net is a website managed by "Forecast Foundation". They have a strict TOS and the only way to use augur "the decentralized application" is by accessing augur.net

"Slock.it is a registered company in Germany" this is what they say on the main page.

Simple question : What if augur.net goes down or it's shut down ? If it's a decentralized app i should be able to use it right away somewhere else.

Yes in some ways it seems ETH is not as decentralized as it seems. Don't get me wrong I love the tech though.

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Following this thread (seems to have degenerated into some kind of debate), but I am hoping to learn more about what the best ETH dapps might be at the moment

I've looked into a lot already, but I want to learn more.

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Quote from: hv_ on March 14, 2016, 11:33:53 AM

Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:25:24 AM

Please explain the advantage of running these apps on ether?

Quote from: Minecache on March 14, 2016, 11:21:55 AM

I'm psyched for Augur and Slock.it

... or on Rootstock ...

or on a real platform (4x faster and already scalable):

But just don't blindly take my word for it like lemmings. Let's see what the Augur devs themselves are saying about "potential multi-chain development"

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,21906.msg285385.html#msg285385

"we really want to test out BitShares as a platform on a real useful use case"

Who can you trust more?

trolls or blockchain certified developers?

Why would they use the BitShares blockchain? Because they know that if they don't, then someone else will.

What makes you think an Augur dev posted that?

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Quote from: hv_ on March 14, 2016, 11:37:54 AM

Quote from: Minecache on March 14, 2016, 11:36:39 AM

List of dapps here:

http://Http://dapps.ethercasts.com/

...put some reasonable economic numbers behind each to estimate what market cap might result from each NOW and expected in say 3 years?

Looks great at first glance. After some digging, a lot of DApps seem abandoned, perhaps being hard to execute or simply not motivated to develop into something substantial. Quite a few Wordpress sites filled with exciting new adventures but nothing real behind them. A lot of fluff.

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Know what is funny with all these hardcore spamming & hyping all over Crypto about ETH
i had not seen even one single comment mentioning any "DAPP"
NOT EVEN ONCE !

R O F L

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I believe you can download the page from augur.net and execute it locally.

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Quote from: Sark on March 14, 2016, 11:39:53 AM

Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:25:24 AM

Please explain the advantage of running these apps on ether?

Quote from: Minecache on March 14, 2016, 11:21:55 AM

I'm psyched for Augur and Slock.it

Augur - a trustless, decentralized, unregulated, low fee prediction market. This IMO is the biggest initial use case for Ethereum. These types of industries are notorious for corruption, high fees, and government interference. With smart contracts on a decentralized system... its resistant to all those things. There is potential there to take the gambling industry by storm.

Slock.it is a very interesting project, but I have a harder time understanding why it is a good fit for a decentralized system as opposed to a centralized one. I think the main benefit is that it could allow for an IoT based transaction ecosystem that doesn't require vendor lockin, but the path to that doesn't seem very clear.

Augur.net is a website managed by "Forecast Foundation". They have a strict TOS and the only way to use augur "the decentralized application" is by accessing augur.net

"Slock.it is a registered company in Germany" this is what they say on the main page.

Simple question : What if augur.net goes down or it's shut down ? If it's a decentralized app i should be able to use it right away somewhere else.

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Quote from: bitcoinrocks on February 27, 2016, 11:32:23 PM

Re: Best ethereum dapps?

Decentralized butthole reamer ETH. So many speculators will get theirs cleaned out.

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Any yall familiar with the best ethereum ~~NXT~~ ~~BTS~~ ~~XCP~~ dapps? Roll Eyes

lets see $10 to make a $1000000000 dapp ... don't even have to burn electricity to mine it out ... to the mooooon!

these dapps trade more than NYSE!
just think of the trading fees that the decentralized ~~maidsafe~~ ~~NEM~~ ~~NXT~~ ~~BTS~~ ~~XCP~~ ETH trading platform will be making!

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Quote from: hv_ on March 14, 2016, 11:50:44 AM

... if there is no real killer dapp , what's next ?

Maybe there is in the works, it's speculation at this point. There are a lot of good use cases out there, but they are likely to build slowly as there are significant hurdles to getting large amount of people onto the Ethereum network.

IMO Augur could be a killer app, but its not even into beta yet and won't launch to the main network for some months after that.

The Ethereum network is even ready to handle a "killer app" yet though. The clients and tools are all still focused on developers. The next release (Metropolis) will be focused on end user facing aspects like the app store and browser along with friendlier wallets. We need those types of things in order to make the on ramp more friendly for the masses.

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Quote from: Sark on March 14, 2016, 11:48:40 AM

Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:19:26 AM

A better question is, why do these need to run on etherium? What problem does ether solve here. Or is it just that ether is creating problems that are too many to list.

My guess is that 99.9% of these on the list won't be around in 6-12 months.

I'd put the number at more like 50%. There are definitely a decent number of planned DApps that just make no sense to me. Thats part of the deal though with a new platform - lots of experimentation and trying new stuff out. Its basically a new business model and a new way of thinking. We had a lot of failures with Web 1.0 and 2.0 type companies as well, and arguably a lot of over investment. Web 3.0 is upon us, and is likely to follow similar patterns with a large number of failures but a few wildly successful projects.

... if there is no real killer dapp , what's next ?

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Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:19:26 AM

A better question is, why do these need to run on etherium? What problem does ether solve here. Or is it just that ether is creating problems that are too many to list.

My guess is that 99.9% of these on the list won't be around in 6-12 months.

I'd put the number at more like 50%. There are definitely a decent number of planned DApps that just make no sense to me. Thats part of the deal though with a new platform - lots of experimentation and trying new stuff out. Its basically a new business model and a new way of thinking. We had a lot of failures with Web 1.0 and 2.0 type companies as well, and arguably a lot of over investment. Web 3.0 is upon us, and is likely to follow similar patterns with a large number of failures but a few wildly successful projects.

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Quote from: hv_ on March 14, 2016, 11:33:53 AM

Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:25:24 AM

Please explain the advantage of running these apps on ether?

Quote from: Minecache on March 14, 2016, 11:21:55 AM

I'm psyched for Augur and Slock.it

... or on Rootstock ...

The best advantage for using Ethereum over Rootstock is that a) it actually exists now and b) you don't have to pay Rootstock an extra 20% in networking fees to use the network.

Rootstock is also just using a fork of the Ethereum VM for their basis. So they will perpetually be in catchup mode when new features come out and they have to integrate those into their own network.

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Quote from: crypto jerk on March 14, 2016, 11:25:24 AM

Please explain the advantage of running these apps on ether?

Quote from: Minecache on March 14, 2016, 11:21:55 AM

I'm psyched for Augur and Slock.it

Augur - a trustless, decentralized, unregulated, low fee prediction market. This IMO is the biggest initial use case for Ethereum. These types of industries are notorious for corruption, high fees, and government interference. With smart contracts on a decentralized system... its resistant to all those things. There is potential there to take the gambling industry by storm.

Slock.it is a very interesting project, but I have a harder time understanding why it is a good fit for a decentralized system as opposed to a centralized one. I think the main benefit is that it could allow for an IoT based transaction ecosystem that doesn't require vendor lockin, but the path to that doesn't seem very clear.

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