Best GPU purchase Efficiency 04.2019

lunobird

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Quote from: Metroid on April 18, 2019, 08:31:21 PM

The same stupid thing will happen this year, this will be the 7nm cycle for trolls, for traders it will be the 10x to 100x more profit cycle hehe, trolls will buy the 7nm gpus then they will see that their mined coin rose 100 times and will keep mining but the reality is if they used that money to buy coins instead, it would be 100 times more profitable hehe, those trolls will never learn hehe and in the end 7nm gpus will be scarce once again and $1000 again ehhe, trolls loved to buy rx 580 for $1000, vega 14nm for $2000, titans for $3000 and so on hehe and now many trolls sold their amazing rx 580 they bought for $1000 for $100 hehe

Truth is after 2017, I really dont know if this crypto market can be less stupid. Many trolls already showed signs of reality fearful syndrome where they think everything is an illusion and kill anybody that says otherwise.

Absolutely True.

I started mining in early 2017. My newbie thought process was "Oh if I spent all this money, time, effort to build gpu rigs, I will make more than those that buy coins" WRONG!

That's a newb trap for those that are new to crypto and think mining is cool. The truth is difficulty rises when prices goes up so you get less coins, or price goes low and difficulty doesn't drop much or at all b/c newbs think its cool to mine. It's a lose and lose situtation!

Eth price went $1400 down to $90. About a 94 percent price decline. However mining difficulty only went down 30 percent.

Don't be a dumb noob. just buy coins and be smarter than the rest. I will no longer invest any more into mining rigs.

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Metroid

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Xtreme Monster

The same stupid thing will happen this year, this will be the 7nm cycle for trolls, for traders it will be the 10x to 100x more profit cycle hehe, trolls will buy the 7nm gpus then they will see that their mined coin rose 100 times and will keep mining but the reality is if they used that money to buy coins instead, it would be 100 times more profitable hehe, those trolls will never learn hehe and in the end 7nm gpus will be scarce once again and $1000 again ehhe, trolls loved to buy rx 580 for $1000, vega 14nm for $2000, titans for $3000 and so on hehe and now many trolls sold their amazing rx 580 they bought for $1000 for $100 hehe

Truth is after 2017, I really dont know if this crypto market can be less stupid. Many trolls already showed signs of reality fearful syndrome where they think everything is an illusion and kill anybody that says otherwise.

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Quote from: Metroid on April 17, 2019, 03:38:08 PM

Quote from: stomachgrowls on April 17, 2019, 03:15:50 PM

Why would continue if you do see that you are just wasting your resources and time?

The first thing that comes to mind is "stupidity", anyway, the next step for bitcoin is 6500 usd and then 7500 usd then 8300 usd then 9700 usd then 11700, as bitcoin rises all coins rises many times more than bitcoin, and all that happens very fast, today is 5200 usd tomorrow might be 10.000 usd so be smart, do not mine, buy the coins that you think will be most profitable when the bull market comes.

Most clever thing to be done rather than mining yourself and going or targeting out for pennies which you even dont know if those coins you do mine will give out sufficient
profit just to brealk-even with the expenses you have used.Dont know if they do have a simple recognition to that situation into their minds because even on a simple
common sense you will able to spot it out easily.

badbart

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Best thing to do is buy the coins. I still mine but I have .042 KWH electricity and most of my equipment is 2 years old and paid off long ago. Payoff time for a rig with all new cards is insane even with cheap electricity. If a person wants to mine they have to have low overhead ie cheap electricity.
Because of my cheap electricity over the past 18 months I'v never had a negative month in mining.

Metroid

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on April 17, 2019, 03:15:50 PM

Why would continue if you do see that you are just wasting your resources and time?

The first thing that comes to mind is "stupidity", anyway, the next step for bitcoin is 6500 usd and then 7500 usd then 8300 usd then 9700 usd then 11700, as bitcoin rises all coins rises many times more than bitcoin, and all that happens very fast, today is 5200 usd tomorrow might be 10.000 usd so be smart, do not mine, buy the coins that you think will be most profitable when the bull market comes.

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Quote from: Metroid on April 17, 2019, 02:40:02 PM

cry more trolls, while you trolls mining will roi a gpu in 3000 days, investors buying coins might roi in few days hehe. You trolls are all mindless. A good example is bitcoin, if you bought for $3100 3 months ago, today you would have made 85%, that is bitcoin only, now if you have bought eth then you would have got more than 100% and the bull market has not even started, smart people are accumulating coins for the next run cause it will likely rise as much as 10.000%. You trolls are hopeless.

For those people who do just simply practical when it comes to investment means then simply buying a coin would be on big consideration.Mining is profitable when you do have free
electricity but it doesnt exist because someone would really pays that off.I already turned off or completely stop my rigs due to unprofitable operation.Why would continue if you do see that you are just wasting your resources and time?

Metroid

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cry more trolls, while you trolls mining will roi a gpu in 3000 days, investors buying coins might roi in few days hehe. You trolls are all mindless. A good example is bitcoin, if you bought for $3100 3 months ago, today you would have made 85%, that is bitcoin only, now if you have bought eth then you would have got more than 100% and the bull market has not even started, smart people are accumulating coins for the next run cause it will likely rise as much as 10.000%. You trolls are hopeless.

lunobird

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Quote from: emrebiyikli on April 17, 2019, 01:51:40 PM

like most people say
gpu mining is now a gamble

asic chip makers are directly killing the gpu miners
whenever a pow coin gets populair guess what happens?

BUY NOW NEW ASIC MINERS FOR ALGO "BLABLA"
high hashrate
low power
fast roi

and so and so...

dropping a difficulty bomb and leaves.

This!

Once you been in crypto for awhile you start become more skeptical due to the over promise and under deliver and the pure greed.

I am very selective about buying mining gear and have absolute no fomo. Not a big deal of you miss a 1st batch or good price. You can always buy coins and most likely make more with less risk than mining.

emrebiyikli

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like most people say
gpu mining is now a gamble

asic chip makers are directly killing the gpu miners
whenever a pow coin gets populair guess what happens?

BUY NOW NEW ASIC MINERS FOR ALGO "BLABLA"
high hashrate
low power
fast roi

and so and so...

dropping a difficulty bomb and leaves.

mak013

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Quote from: markiz73 on April 16, 2019, 04:00:45 PM

Quote from: GhostWithin on April 16, 2019, 02:02:58 PM

Quote from: markiz73 on April 16, 2019, 10:45:02 AM

1050 TI,1050,RX560 trash, this video card is not for mining
470/570 and 480/580 this is the same
20xx very expensive

In Russia, the popular 470/570/480/580 for $ 75 used and the 1080ti for $ 300 used.
The best in versatility is the 1080ti , but the best and fastest-selling in the secondary market 470/570/480/580.

I do not consider buying new graphics cards for business, very big payback. To buy now new graphics cards, you need to have a very cheap electricity.

But if I would have decided to build myself a new rig, it would be the 2080/2080ti graphics card

I would advise to choose the 580 model.
for example, in Russia it costs only 10-15 dollars more expensive than 570, and it makes much less noise than 570.
1080 is certainly much better, but its price is much higher

(in 3-4 times)
I see no reason to buy 2080 now. Soon the price will drop.

Hashrate ETH 140 TX, about 5-6 millions GPU.( although I don't know how much hashrate asics takes)
If ETH change the algorithm to POS, RX580 graphics cards will be useless even on free electricity.
After the release of the new generation of AMD cards(NAVI), you can see the reduced prices for NVIDIA.

Not useless, but lots of ETH and nicehash miners will be crying. As for me, i prefer NVIDIA. Now i`d like to change my rigs from 1060 to 2060 or used 1080ti. 2080, 2080ti are too expensive and have lower ROI than 2060.

lunobird

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Quote from: fmz89 on April 16, 2019, 07:33:44 PM

Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 07:05:52 AM

Quote from: fmz89 on April 16, 2019, 06:27:19 AM

Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 05:59:56 AM

a 6gpu 187mh/s on ETH uses from 820-860W from the wall. RX 580 and 570.

with 0,08$ per kWh you are getting a profit of 0,76$ a day more or less. 0,76/6 = 0,12$ per card per day even if those cards do 31,5 which is the normal performance of RX 570 and RX 580 (unless you have a crap model or you fucked it hard modding it).

so stay with me: the cheapest price for RX 570 is around 100$. provided you buy 6 that makes 600$ for the gpu cost. if you make 0.76$ per day, you need like 790 days to ROI. And this time is only for GPU ROI. You would have to also ROI the PSU, cpu, ram, mobo, risers, and all of that.

I undestand people who got into mining back in 2017 or even Q1 of 2018. But now, you have to be really, like really dumb to enter this market with current conditions and prices. It makes no fucking sense, it doesn't matter if you go for high or low efficient gpus. The profit is just laughable.

You will mostly have to hodl , paying bills from your own pocket and expect the market to go up to try to recover your investment. Let's not talk about "real profit".

So no, it's dumb to buy gpu nowadays. Don't do it.

Lol why stick on eth, this is 2019 not 2016, eth already on asic, some coin you can profitable around 400% from electric bill, you just dont know which is

always the same thing. Someone comes here, says that there is a profitable coin , and then expects the others to believe it. I've heard of "profitable" coins like the one you are saying for years. But noone knows which is it, which algo uses, which exchange works with it, if it's safe or not to mine that. If the wallet can be hacked. it doesn't appear anywhere, it's not known, it's a shitty coin (100% sure), and you have to have an special exchange that trades it for cash.

I just don't care if there is or there isn't a profitable coin right now. I'm not into mining anymore. But for the most part, all profitable coins are being mined with ASICS which makes it impossible to mine with GPU. If you are mining a coin for 400% profit, well done for you.

if you are getting 0,40$ per card, while i get 0,10, thats 400% more. But the result is that you are poor , and mining will not help you with that. So good luck with your 400% profit.

Noobs yeah still poor on vega 56 doing 1.4$ @ 240$ card, is the best per gpu mining right now, mining is the best way to learn crypto, so you cant get rekt when buy pow coin which is already knew how to count price bases

According to whatomine vega56 does 79 cents with free electric. Your numbers are inflated

Alucard2425

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For me the best one is still rx 480 same hash as rx 580 but low in electricity consumption Wink

fmz89

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Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 07:05:52 AM

Quote from: fmz89 on April 16, 2019, 06:27:19 AM

Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 05:59:56 AM

a 6gpu 187mh/s on ETH uses from 820-860W from the wall. RX 580 and 570.

with 0,08$ per kWh you are getting a profit of 0,76$ a day more or less. 0,76/6 = 0,12$ per card per day even if those cards do 31,5 which is the normal performance of RX 570 and RX 580 (unless you have a crap model or you fucked it hard modding it).

so stay with me: the cheapest price for RX 570 is around 100$. provided you buy 6 that makes 600$ for the gpu cost. if you make 0.76$ per day, you need like 790 days to ROI. And this time is only for GPU ROI. You would have to also ROI the PSU, cpu, ram, mobo, risers, and all of that.

I undestand people who got into mining back in 2017 or even Q1 of 2018. But now, you have to be really, like really dumb to enter this market with current conditions and prices. It makes no fucking sense, it doesn't matter if you go for high or low efficient gpus. The profit is just laughable.

You will mostly have to hodl , paying bills from your own pocket and expect the market to go up to try to recover your investment. Let's not talk about "real profit".

So no, it's dumb to buy gpu nowadays. Don't do it.

Lol why stick on eth, this is 2019 not 2016, eth already on asic, some coin you can profitable around 400% from electric bill, you just dont know which is

always the same thing. Someone comes here, says that there is a profitable coin , and then expects the others to believe it. I've heard of "profitable" coins like the one you are saying for years. But noone knows which is it, which algo uses, which exchange works with it, if it's safe or not to mine that. If the wallet can be hacked. it doesn't appear anywhere, it's not known, it's a shitty coin (100% sure), and you have to have an special exchange that trades it for cash.

I just don't care if there is or there isn't a profitable coin right now. I'm not into mining anymore. But for the most part, all profitable coins are being mined with ASICS which makes it impossible to mine with GPU. If you are mining a coin for 400% profit, well done for you.

if you are getting 0,40$ per card, while i get 0,10, thats 400% more. But the result is that you are poor , and mining will not help you with that. So good luck with your 400% profit.

Noobs yeah still poor on vega 56 doing 1.4$ @ 240$ card, is the best per gpu mining right now, mining is the best way to learn crypto, so you cant get rekt when buy pow coin which is already knew how to count price bases

markiz73

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Quote from: GhostWithin on April 16, 2019, 02:02:58 PM

Quote from: markiz73 on April 16, 2019, 10:45:02 AM

1050 TI,1050,RX560 trash, this video card is not for mining
470/570 and 480/580 this is the same
20xx very expensive

In Russia, the popular 470/570/480/580 for $ 75 used and the 1080ti for $ 300 used.
The best in versatility is the 1080ti , but the best and fastest-selling in the secondary market 470/570/480/580.

I do not consider buying new graphics cards for business, very big payback. To buy now new graphics cards, you need to have a very cheap electricity.

But if I would have decided to build myself a new rig, it would be the 2080/2080ti graphics card

I would advise to choose the 580 model.
for example, in Russia it costs only 10-15 dollars more expensive than 570, and it makes much less noise than 570.
1080 is certainly much better, but its price is much higher

(in 3-4 times)
I see no reason to buy 2080 now. Soon the price will drop.

Hashrate ETH 140 TX, about 5-6 millions GPU.( although I don't know how much hashrate asics takes)
If ETH change the algorithm to POS, RX580 graphics cards will be useless even on free electricity.
After the release of the new generation of AMD cards(NAVI), you can see the reduced prices for NVIDIA.

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Quote from: markiz73 on April 16, 2019, 10:45:02 AM

1050 TI,1050,RX560 trash, this video card is not for mining
470/570 and 480/580 this is the same
20xx very expensive

In Russia, the popular 470/570/480/580 for $ 75 used and the 1080ti for $ 300 used.
The best in versatility is the 1080ti , but the best and fastest-selling in the secondary market 470/570/480/580.

I do not consider buying new graphics cards for business, very big payback. To buy now new graphics cards, you need to have a very cheap electricity.

But if I would have decided to build myself a new rig, it would be the 2080/2080ti graphics card

I would advise to choose the 580 model.
for example, in Russia it costs only 10-15 dollars more expensive than 570, and it makes much less noise than 570.
1080 is certainly much better, but its price is much higher

(in 3-4 times)
I see no reason to buy 2080 now. Soon the price will drop.

markiz73

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1050 TI,1050,RX560 trash, this video card is not for mining
470/570 and 480/580 this is the same
20xx very expensive

In Russia, the popular 470/570/480/580 for $ 75 used and the 1080ti for $ 300 used.
The best in versatility is the 1080ti , but the best and fastest-selling in the secondary market 470/570/480/580.

I do not consider buying new graphics cards for business, very big payback. To buy now new graphics cards, you need to have a very cheap electricity.

But if I would have decided to build myself a new rig, it would be the 2080/2080ti graphics card

mak013

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Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 07:05:52 AM

Quote from: fmz89 on April 16, 2019, 06:27:19 AM

Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 05:59:56 AM

a 6gpu 187mh/s on ETH uses from 820-860W from the wall. RX 580 and 570.

with 0,08$ per kWh you are getting a profit of 0,76$ a day more or less. 0,76/6 = 0,12$ per card per day even if those cards do 31,5 which is the normal performance of RX 570 and RX 580 (unless you have a crap model or you fucked it hard modding it).

so stay with me: the cheapest price for RX 570 is around 100$. provided you buy 6 that makes 600$ for the gpu cost. if you make 0.76$ per day, you need like 790 days to ROI. And this time is only for GPU ROI. You would have to also ROI the PSU, cpu, ram, mobo, risers, and all of that.

I undestand people who got into mining back in 2017 or even Q1 of 2018. But now, you have to be really, like really dumb to enter this market with current conditions and prices. It makes no fucking sense, it doesn't matter if you go for high or low efficient gpus. The profit is just laughable.

You will mostly have to hodl , paying bills from your own pocket and expect the market to go up to try to recover your investment. Let's not talk about "real profit".

So no, it's dumb to buy gpu nowadays. Don't do it.

Lol why stick on eth, this is 2019 not 2016, eth already on asic, some coin you can profitable around 400% from electric bill, you just dont know which is

always the same thing. Someone comes here, says that there is a profitable coin , and then expects the others to believe it. I've heard of "profitable" coins like the one you are saying for years. But noone knows which is it, which algo uses, which exchange works with it, if it's safe or not to mine that. If the wallet can be hacked. it doesn't appear anywhere, it's not known, it's a shitty coin (100% sure), and you have to have an special exchange that trades it for cash.

I just don't care if there is or there isn't a profitable coin right now. I'm not into mining anymore. But for the most part, all profitable coins are being mined with ASICS which makes it impossible to mine with GPU. If you are mining a coin for 400% profit, well done for you.

if you are getting 0,40$ per card, while i get 0,10, thats 400% more. But the result is that you are poor , and mining will not help you with that. So good luck with your 400% profit.

yes, always the same choice: mine eth/nice with little profit but without brainwork or to make research, find new coins, miners, exchanges. the first way worked in 2017, when even nurses became "miners". now it`s 2019 - if you want to have profit, you need to do some work.

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Quote from: fmz89 on April 16, 2019, 06:27:19 AM

Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 05:59:56 AM

a 6gpu 187mh/s on ETH uses from 820-860W from the wall. RX 580 and 570.

with 0,08$ per kWh you are getting a profit of 0,76$ a day more or less. 0,76/6 = 0,12$ per card per day even if those cards do 31,5 which is the normal performance of RX 570 and RX 580 (unless you have a crap model or you fucked it hard modding it).

so stay with me: the cheapest price for RX 570 is around 100$. provided you buy 6 that makes 600$ for the gpu cost. if you make 0.76$ per day, you need like 790 days to ROI. And this time is only for GPU ROI. You would have to also ROI the PSU, cpu, ram, mobo, risers, and all of that.

I undestand people who got into mining back in 2017 or even Q1 of 2018. But now, you have to be really, like really dumb to enter this market with current conditions and prices. It makes no fucking sense, it doesn't matter if you go for high or low efficient gpus. The profit is just laughable.

You will mostly have to hodl , paying bills from your own pocket and expect the market to go up to try to recover your investment. Let's not talk about "real profit".

So no, it's dumb to buy gpu nowadays. Don't do it.

Lol why stick on eth, this is 2019 not 2016, eth already on asic, some coin you can profitable around 400% from electric bill, you just dont know which is

always the same thing. Someone comes here, says that there is a profitable coin , and then expects the others to believe it. I've heard of "profitable" coins like the one you are saying for years. But noone knows which is it, which algo uses, which exchange works with it, if it's safe or not to mine that. If the wallet can be hacked. it doesn't appear anywhere, it's not known, it's a shitty coin (100% sure), and you have to have an special exchange that trades it for cash.

I just don't care if there is or there isn't a profitable coin right now. I'm not into mining anymore. But for the most part, all profitable coins are being mined with ASICS which makes it impossible to mine with GPU. If you are mining a coin for 400% profit, well done for you.

if you are getting 0,40$ per card, while i get 0,10, thats 400% more. But the result is that you are poor , and mining will not help you with that. So good luck with your 400% profit.

fmz89

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Quote from: Piskeante on April 16, 2019, 05:59:56 AM

a 6gpu 187mh/s on ETH uses from 820-860W from the wall. RX 580 and 570.

with 0,08$ per kWh you are getting a profit of 0,76$ a day more or less. 0,76/6 = 0,12$ per card per day even if those cards do 31,5 which is the normal performance of RX 570 and RX 580 (unless you have a crap model or you fucked it hard modding it).

so stay with me: the cheapest price for RX 570 is around 100$. provided you buy 6 that makes 600$ for the gpu cost. if you make 0.76$ per day, you need like 790 days to ROI. And this time is only for GPU ROI. You would have to also ROI the PSU, cpu, ram, mobo, risers, and all of that.

I undestand people who got into mining back in 2017 or even Q1 of 2018. But now, you have to be really, like really dumb to enter this market with current conditions and prices. It makes no fucking sense, it doesn't matter if you go for high or low efficient gpus. The profit is just laughable.

You will mostly have to hodl , paying bills from your own pocket and expect the market to go up to try to recover your investment. Let's not talk about "real profit".

So no, it's dumb to buy gpu nowadays. Don't do it.

Lol why stick on eth, this is 2019 not 2016, eth already on asic, some coin you can profitable around 400% from electric bill, you just dont know which is

Piskeante

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a 6gpu 187mh/s on ETH uses from 820-860W from the wall. RX 580 and 570.

with 0,08$ per kWh you are getting a profit of 0,76$ a day more or less. 0,76/6 = 0,12$ per card per day even if those cards do 31,5 which is the normal performance of RX 570 and RX 580 (unless you have a crap model or you fucked it hard modding it).

so stay with me: the cheapest price for RX 570 is around 100$. provided you buy 6 that makes 600$ for the gpu cost. if you make 0.76$ per day, you need like 790 days to ROI. And this time is only for GPU ROI. You would have to also ROI the PSU, cpu, ram, mobo, risers, and all of that.

I undestand people who got into mining back in 2017 or even Q1 of 2018. But now, you have to be really, like really dumb to enter this market with current conditions and prices. It makes no fucking sense, it doesn't matter if you go for high or low efficient gpus. The profit is just laughable.

You will mostly have to hodl , paying bills from your own pocket and expect the market to go up to try to recover your investment. Let's not talk about "real profit".

So no, it's dumb to buy gpu nowadays. Don't do it.

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