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Quote from: Fiyasko on May 29, 2011, 10:55:38 PM

Lol. Steroscopic 3D has been in ATi Cards since the 5xxx

No. They announced their "HD3D Initiative" , making it sound like the 5xxx cards had something special that the previous generation cards did not. I waited and waited, but nothing ever materialized. Only very very recently, some monitors have come out supporting it, however their stereoscopic solution has ABSOLUTELY NO driver support - they rely on third parties! Tri-Def and iz3d are the ones supporting HD3D, not AMD!

NVidia's solution is all done in-house inside their drivers, so compatibility patches can be very quickly made, and game compatibility is MUCH higher than with IZ3D or Tri-Def's solution.

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Quote from: Batouzo on May 28, 2011, 12:47:46 AM

1. Sell it
2. Acquire same-price used RADEON card
3. profit

Yep. You can probably sell your GTX 460 for ~$100, which will get you an AMD card able to do ~100Mhash/s.

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Quote from: PcChip on May 29, 2011, 02:52:23 PM

And for those of you wondering why we have NVidia cards instead of similarly-priced AMD cards, lots of us made the choice before we learned about bitcoins. I personally really wanted to buy a 6950-2GB and unlock a free $100 upgrade with the 6970 bios, but I couldn't because I was determined to work towards building a stereoscopic 3D gaming solution, and nvidia was the only way to go.

Lol. Steroscopic 3D has been in ATi Cards since the 5xxx

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And for those of you wondering why we have NVidia cards instead of similarly-priced AMD cards, lots of us made the choice before we learned about bitcoins. I personally really wanted to buy a 6950-2GB and unlock a free $100 upgrade with the 6970 bios, but I couldn't because I was determined to work towards building a stereoscopic 3D gaming solution, and nvidia was the only way to go.

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A lot of misinformation in this thread.

It is true that nvidia and amd cards don't play nice together in the same box, I personally tried it and Phoenix said no opencl devices found; so keep the nvidia cards in their own boxes and do the same for amd cards.

However, it is NOT true that AMD's drivers are more prone to crashing than NVidia's. I use both for my family and the quality is comparable. They will both sometimes have a bad driver release that gets fixed in the next update.

Also, it's not true that you can't game while mining! I do it on my GTX570 at times, but my 3 year old plays Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood it on the 4870/5850 every single day while it mines. The miner still mines, it just slows down. The key is to use the correct aggression setting to let this be possible. For the 5850 it was 4, for the 4870 it is 3. Anything higher and the games stutter noticeably. Yes, using low aggression values lowers hashrate; that's the price you pay for using your kid's gaming computer for a few extra megahashes without disrupting gaming.

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I could just turn off the miner when I'm gaming. I only ever play paradox titles and a little SC2 anyways.

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Quote from: zale on May 28, 2011, 07:00:26 PM

Well if you have 2 cards just use card #2 for mining and card #1 for gaming. Turn off crossfire of course

Doesn't matter if you do this (I tried it). The ATi driver will still crap out.

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Well if you have 2 cards just use card #2 for mining and card #1 for gaming. Turn off crossfire of course

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Quote from: error on May 28, 2011, 02:40:06 PM

Quote from: allinvain on May 28, 2011, 10:35:56 AM

Hmm, I dunno but I think you're going to have some problems if you game and mine at the same time. ATI driver's can be sketchy sometimes and I bet you'll get some crashes once in a while. But if you wish to do it anyways set the miner's priority very low so it won't eat up the GPU too much. With poclbm if you set the the -f variable to -f 120 you should be able to game and mine at the same time.

Doesn't matter where you set the variables, the ATI driver is bad. Your game will eventually crash and burn if you mine while gaming. You'll know it's happening when your FPS suddenly drops and you start seeing rendering artifacts. At that point, no more gaming until you reboot the computer. This even happens if you dedicate a single card to gaming and another to mining.

The NVIDIA driver doesn't do this, but since the card doesn't get enough hashes to make it worthwhile, gamers are kind of between a rock and a hard place here if they want to mine.

Ah I see. OK, well that does it then. Mining and gaming = bad. Someday, someday, ATI/AMD will get their shit together and write some rock solid drivers.

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Quote from: allinvain on May 28, 2011, 10:35:56 AM

Hmm, I dunno but I think you're going to have some problems if you game and mine at the same time. ATI driver's can be sketchy sometimes and I bet you'll get some crashes once in a while. But if you wish to do it anyways set the miner's priority very low so it won't eat up the GPU too much. With poclbm if you set the the -f variable to -f 120 you should be able to game and mine at the same time.

Doesn't matter where you set the variables, the ATI driver is bad. Your game will eventually crash and burn if you mine while gaming. You'll know it's happening when your FPS suddenly drops and you start seeing rendering artifacts. At that point, no more gaming until you reboot the computer. This even happens if you dedicate a single card to gaming and another to mining.

The NVIDIA driver doesn't do this, but since the card doesn't get enough hashes to make it worthwhile, gamers are kind of between a rock and a hard place here if they want to mine.

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Quote from: Fiyasko on May 28, 2011, 10:51:18 AM

Guys Seriously. stop trying to mine wiht nvidias

A $114 5830 can pull 300 mega hases, Sell that bitchass nVidia card and xfire two 5830's

inb4 fanboi flame

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Okey Dokey Lokey

Guys Seriously. stop trying to mine wiht nvidias

A $114 5830 can pull 300 mega hases, Sell that bitchass nVidia card and xfire two 5830's

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Hmm, I dunno but I think you're going to have some problems if you game and mine at the same time. ATI driver's can be sketchy sometimes and I bet you'll get some crashes once in a while. But if you wish to do it anyways set the miner's priority very low so it won't eat up the GPU too much. With poclbm if you set the the -f variable to -f 120 you should be able to game and mine at the same time.

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Quote from: ItsASpork on May 22, 2011, 01:09:51 PM

What sort of flags should I use to mine with my GTX 460?

1. Sell it
2. Acquire same-price used RADEON card
3. profit

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Quote from: error on May 27, 2011, 11:47:01 PM

Not if you're a gamer. The NVIDIA and ATI drivers do NOT get along well installed on the same rig, so you're looking at building a whole new rig (you really do NOT want to attempt to game on ATI).

In all honesty I hardly ever game, the only high demanding game I play is SC2. Ill probably sell the 460 to my friend.

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Not if you're a gamer. The NVIDIA and ATI drivers do NOT get along well installed on the same rig, so you're looking at building a whole new rig (you really do NOT want to attempt to game on ATI).

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Quote from: allinvain on May 27, 2011, 09:31:56 PM

Hmm nice 70 Mhs is not all that bad. This would be great for peeps with no power bills. Still though a 5770 would kick its pants.

True. I only pay 4.5c/kWh, so I still about break even seeing as I leave my machine on for torrenting anyways.

I might pick up 2 5830s tomorrow, but I'm not sure if they're still a good investment with the difficulty spike.

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Hmm nice 70 Mhs is not all that bad. This would be great for peeps with no power bills. Still though a 5770 would kick its pants.

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For those of you who were asking, those are the specs I get from my GTX 460. I've yet to see if 1721 is stable overnight, 1800 crashes after a few minutes, so I've been leaving it on 1700. The fan speed is actually at 70, as 80 is too loud for me to be at the computer with.

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Quote from: ItsASpork on May 24, 2011, 08:25:27 PM

Quote from: allinvain on May 24, 2011, 08:16:47 PM

The best way to mine with a gtx 460 is to not mine at all Tongue

With the price you pay for a 460 you can get an ATI card that will kick its ass.

It's better than CPU mining. I'm pulling about 61Mhash while browsing with FF and listening to music.

Care to suggest an AMD card for me?

True. If you cannot get an ATI card or your electricity is free then yeah it is better than CPU any day.

Suggest a card? Hmm, well depends on your budget. I personally prefer 5850, 5870, and 5970 cards, but the 5830 can be a good card if you can find it very very cheap.

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