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Topic: Betbit.co| Dice game | 0.1% house edge | Referral program | Bonuses that shock! - page 4. (Read 7115 times)

member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Dice with 96% win chance! Play www.BETBIT.co
Dear users.

We have added new awesome banners. Go place them and join our affiliate program.
Also we update affiliate program earning rates:
from 1st level referral - 0.3%
from 2nd level referral - 0.2%
from 3rd level referral - 0.1%

We updated the way, how our random number generates.  Before every game we generate server and client seeds. Player can change client seed or we can generate it for him.
-- Rolling number = Server seed + client seed --
If the result is bigger than 9.999.999, then
-- Rolling number = (Server seed + Client Seed) - 9.999.999 --

Also we updated our provably fair system. Now we encrypt server seed + random symbols before every game.

Go check updates at https://betbit.co

That is nice but still the better option to advertise your site and to get promoters is to start a signature campaign it will be a great step for the success of your site.

There's no gaurantee for his site to grown up and gather more player's by spending on signature campaign if he will run a campaign for just a short time period and actually the most effective thing is to run it on long time basis just what other gambling campaigns site existing here, but seems he don't really care to do so and just really on this thread and gather those curious gamblers only.

Btw Op, nice cool site. Grin

Thank's! Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 1228
Dear users.

We have added new awesome banners. Go place them and join our affiliate program.
Also we update affiliate program earning rates:
from 1st level referral - 0.3%
from 2nd level referral - 0.2%
from 3rd level referral - 0.1%

We updated the way, how our random number generates.  Before every game we generate server and client seeds. Player can change client seed or we can generate it for him.
-- Rolling number = Server seed + client seed --
If the result is bigger than 9.999.999, then
-- Rolling number = (Server seed + Client Seed) - 9.999.999 --

Also we updated our provably fair system. Now we encrypt server seed + random symbols before every game.

Go check updates at https://betbit.co

That is nice but still the better option to advertise your site and to get promoters is to start a signature campaign it will be a great step for the success of your site.

There's no gaurantee for his site to grown up and gather more player's by spending on signature campaign if he will run a campaign for just a short time period and actually the most effective thing is to run it on long time basis just what other gambling campaigns site existing here, but seems he don't really care to do so and just really on this thread and gather those curious gamblers only.

Btw Op, nice cool site. Grin
hero member
Activity: 698
Merit: 503
Substantiate your success.
Yes you are absolutely right! We plan to start it very soon Smiley

any new version?
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Dice with 96% win chance! Play www.BETBIT.co
Yes you are absolutely right! We plan to start it very soon Smiley
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 500
Dear users.

We have added new awesome banners. Go place them and join our affiliate program.
Also we update affiliate program earning rates:
from 1st level referral - 0.3%
from 2nd level referral - 0.2%
from 3rd level referral - 0.1%

We updated the way, how our random number generates.  Before every game we generate server and client seeds. Player can change client seed or we can generate it for him.
-- Rolling number = Server seed + client seed --
If the result is bigger than 9.999.999, then
-- Rolling number = (Server seed + Client Seed) - 9.999.999 --

Also we updated our provably fair system. Now we encrypt server seed + random symbols before every game.

Go check updates at https://betbit.co

That is nice but still the better option to advertise your site and to get promoters is to start a signature campaign it will be a great step for the success of your site.
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Dice with 96% win chance! Play www.BETBIT.co
just now checked your site and its cool without any graphics and simple work, but still the same question is you are generating the bet on 7 digit numbers. I will be using your faucet to just for fun betting.

Thank's. Our game generates numbers from 0 to 100 000 000 range.

Enjoy playing
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1027
just now checked your site and its cool without any graphics and simple work, but still the same question is you are generating the bet on 7 digit numbers. I will be using your faucet to just for fun betting.
full member
Activity: 368
Merit: 212
Don't buy Bitcoin - Earn it
Good looking site.

Nice house edge and Faucet.
I did add it to Gaming4coin now

http://gaming4coin.com/betbit-660.html
hero member
Activity: 698
Merit: 503
Substantiate your success.
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Dice with 96% win chance! Play www.BETBIT.co
Dear users.

We have added new awesome banners. Go place them and join our affiliate program.
Also we update affiliate program earning rates:
from 1st level referral - 0.3%
from 2nd level referral - 0.2%
from 3rd level referral - 0.1%

We updated the way, how our random number generates.  Before every game we generate server and client seeds. Player can change client seed or we can generate it for him.
-- Rolling number = Server seed + client seed --
If the result is bigger than 9.999.999, then
-- Rolling number = (Server seed + Client Seed) - 9.999.999 --

Also we updated our provably fair system. Now we encrypt server seed + random symbols before every game.

Go check updates at https://betbit.co
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1000
Where i can find some F.A.Q? Are you sure this site ready for launching? i things this site interesting but still more features, cause there i'm realy confused can't found some guide.
What are yo talking about, you can find a Tutorial on the bottom of betbit's site. What else do you need to understand the rules?
You can rarely see FAQ on gambling sites. Normally you would find Terms of Service - that is standard. Rules of the games and maybe short tutorial are optional.
 
hero member
Activity: 698
Merit: 503
Substantiate your success.
Where i can find some F.A.Q? Are you sure this site ready for launching? i things this site interesting but still more features, cause there i'm realy confused can't found some guide.
Hahaha,yeah i hope found FAQ
hero member
Activity: 928
Merit: 531
Where i can find some F.A.Q? Are you sure this site ready for launching? i things this site interesting but still more features, cause there i'm realy confused can't found some guide.
legendary
Activity: 2557
Merit: 1886
Yes there is no difference no difference in betting and the generated number are random. Our core doesn't changes.... I’ll try to explain on example. If you play with 99% win chance, that means that in about 100 games you may lose ~1 time. So because of the bug in the system, this started to work not for 1 player, but all the online players (about 200). So there were players who didn’t lose during 200 bets and players who lost more then they suppose to lose

That explanation doesn't make any sense. Your system should be generating a random number in the range of [0, 10000000) with an equal probability of each outcome. Doing anything different is as far as I'm concerned cheating. (Unless you explicitly and very clearly tell people otherwise)


My guess what happened, based on the freakishly weird streaks I and other players saw, and your explanation of making "1 player lose" -- you configured the system to predict peoples bets and picked a number that would make them lose. Perhaps it was an honest mistake and misunderstanding as you are trying to make people lose "the right amount". I'm guessing two things happened, your system was far too aggressive (it was hard to not notice) and what you also probably what you didn't realize is that it would also make you extremely vulnerable to exploitation yourself (if you were doing that, I could predict that you were going to try make me lose and unexpectedly reverse the bet and increase the wager amount). Because of your "provably predetermine" scheme, you would be forced to honor the bets.

So I guess that would also explain why you reversed it all.

I'm almost inclined to leave negative trust, as I really don't think anyone should be playing on your casino with the way you're running it -- but I'll try assume good intentions.

Here's what I think you should do to remedy it:

   * Switch to a proper provably fair scheme. Go to just-dice.com and steal theirs, it's become an industry standard. It will protect yourself and your players
   * Offer a full refund to all players
   * With your affiliate program, you have a negative house edge. It's not possible to run a legitimate business like that. If this is intentional,
      you should be explicit that you have a budget to run your casino at a loss to attract players. Because I'm very inclined to believe you either
      aren't realizing this, or hoping to make the difference by cheating players

 
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Hello dear player.

We beg our pardon that you affected from that terrible bug. Our technical team looked at your betting history and noticed that You made 29 bets not in a "buggy" range. Also I want you to know that yesterday's "buggy" bet analysis and calculation has been done by robot. It determined how much was the actual lost and based on that analysis we refund bitcoins, that players lost because of that bug.

This doesn't make sense. I made hundreds or perhaps thousands of bets and if only 29 were not buggy I don't know how you can say I only get a 0.2 refund. If I did win by take advantage of your system like if it thought I was going to bet low, and instead bet high. You would refuse to cash out the money. So anything less than a full refund is unfair.

When I made like 10 bets with 99% win chance, I lose like 8 of them. The undeniable truth is I was cheated, I am willing to accept it was an accident and try your site more, but to keep my money from it is a scam. A refund of only 0.2 is an insult
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Dice with 96% win chance! Play www.BETBIT.co
Dear players!

Yesterday we announced an experimental update with high and low payout options as our players suggested. Unfortunately today we noticed a bug at the system: our game core is based on theory of probability, but yesterday the impact of probability was calculated for all online players, but not individuals and because of this bug some players start winning more than it is possible and some of them lost their funds. We had users with 200 wins in a row and users who was losing again and again. So in this case the theory of probability doesn't work.

We beg our pardon to all our players! We want you to know, that our system already made yesterday's games analysis and refund appropriate bitcoins.

Thank you, I appreciate  honesty in admitting the bug. No matter what I did yesterday I kept losing, with what must have been 1 in a million bad luck. Here's an example of some of my losses, this one for example playing with "99%" win chance:

http://i.imgur.com/rlKqfkx.png

Obviously as you say, that was a bug in the system. However I was only refunded 0.2 BTC while my total losses are: -3.39258981 BTC.  I do not think anything but a full refund in this case is fair. My username is "player", if you could refund the remaining 3.19 BTC to my account I will be happy to continue playing

Hello dear player.

We beg our pardon that you affected from that terrible bug. Our technical team looked at your betting history and noticed that You made 29 bets not in a "buggy" range. Also I want you to know that yesterday's "buggy" bet analysis and calculation has been done by robot. It determined how much was the actual lost and based on that analysis we refund bitcoins, that players lost because of that bug.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
Dear players!

Yesterday we announced an experimental update with high and low payout options as our players suggested. Unfortunately today we noticed a bug at the system: our game core is based on theory of probability, but yesterday the impact of probability was calculated for all online players, but not individuals and because of this bug some players start winning more than it is possible and some of them lost their funds. We had users with 200 wins in a row and users who was losing again and again. So in this case the theory of probability doesn't work.

We beg our pardon to all our players! We want you to know, that our system already made yesterday's games analysis and refund appropriate bitcoins.

Thank you, I appreciate  honesty in admitting the bug. No matter what I did yesterday I kept losing, with what must have been 1 in a million bad luck. Here's an example of some of my losses, this one for example playing with "99%" win chance:

http://i.imgur.com/rlKqfkx.png

Obviously as you say, that was a bug in the system. However I was only refunded 0.2 BTC while my total losses are: -3.39258981 BTC.  I do not think anything but a full refund in this case is fair. My username is "player", if you could refund the remaining 3.19 BTC to my account I will be happy to continue playing
legendary
Activity: 2758
Merit: 3282
P.S. We offer a new type of provably fair system. Here is how it works:

1. Before every bet, game generates number in a range 0 - 9.999.999 and random 12 symbols
2. After it encrypts them by following formula hash('sha512',(number+'-'+symbols))
3. Player can find the next game hash under win/lose section
4. As player makes a bet, rolled number appear in Betbit's eyes section and the random symbols - in "Plays" tab in left menu.
5. To check the hash, the player need to google any sha512 encryptor and place "random number" + "-" + "random symbols" there and encrypt them.
The new provably fair system is very flawed. It isn't actually provably fair, only provably determined. As the house, if you see someone running a martingale bot and betting high, you can purposely give that player hashes that are low numbers and cause them to bust. Most people also don't switch between Hi/Lo, or do it in a pattern, so it isn't hard to write a script to predict what they will use next, and send a "random" number to make them lose. I suggest you look into the nonce system + client seed system Primedice/Justdice/Most dice sites use, or use the system moneypot does.
member
Activity: 73
Merit: 10
Dice with 96% win chance! Play www.BETBIT.co
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Yes there is no difference no difference in betting and the generated number are random. Our core doesn't changes.... I’ll try to explain on example. If you play with 99% win chance, that means that in about 100 games you may lose ~1 time. So because of the bug in the system, this started to work not for 1 player, but all the online players (about 200). So there were players who didn’t lose during 200 bets and players who lost more then they suppose to lose

But this should always work for all the online players.
The numbers are generated at random which causes a win/loss rate close to the payout/win-percentage you are betting on.
The system can't effect any winning/losing because it shouldn't consider the betting parameters of the user but only provide a random number no matter if it is a losing or winning number for the next bet.

Yes you are absolutely right... We are speaking about same thing Smiley I just trying to explain what kind of bug did we have yesterday.Now everything is fixed..
hero member
Activity: 813
Merit: 507
-snip-

Yes there is no difference no difference in betting and the generated number are random. Our core doesn't changes.... I’ll try to explain on example. If you play with 99% win chance, that means that in about 100 games you may lose ~1 time. So because of the bug in the system, this started to work not for 1 player, but all the online players (about 200). So there were players who didn’t lose during 200 bets and players who lost more then they suppose to lose

But this should always work for all the online players.
The numbers are generated at random which causes a win/loss rate close to the payout/win-percentage you are betting on.
The system can't effect any winning/losing because it shouldn't consider the betting parameters of the user but only provide a random number no matter if it is a losing or winning number for the next bet.
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