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I also just received my payment for this latest stage. I am also going to try to move my btc before the fork and see if got chance to get bcc. Aint it going to happen at 12.20pm, so before still can move about??

a bit more than an hour ago, I did go ahead and attempt to send my transaction based on this clock that currently is showing a bit more than 10 hours before the hardfork transition period.  

https://coin.dance/

The mempool seems to be without any major backlog, so hopefully, my transaction will go through soon.    I did initiate a support ticket with Betcoin.ag because my transaction should at least show up as pending, and surely I would like it to go through before the hardfork, if reasonably possible.

Edit: It was a little bit risky, yet it did go through.  After I wrote the betcoin.ag support ticket, I received a response indicated that sometimes withdraws can take 4 hours to go through, and about 3 hours seems to have been the case with my transaction going through.  As I type this edit , there appears to be about 8.5 hours left before the hardfork, so I doubt I am going to move any more coins around - and likely I won't move any coins for several days after the hardfork (if it happens, that is).

Nope....Midnight UTC was 2 hours ago.  It's not recommended to transfer your coin during the transition period, beginning an hour before Midnight UTC, Aug 1, 2017....we're in the middle of the transition period right now. You missed it, unless you want to take a chance.

Confirming as well that I received the last stage payment. Thanks Betcoin.ag and to the manager   

I just noticed that my payment was received.

I am thinking to just leave the payment in the Betcoin.ag account rather than attempting to transfer it?

Don't we have 12 more hours before the hardfork?  So maybe there is still enough time to transfer it out because Betcoin.ag is not recognizing coin splitting, right?

So, you are confident that Bitcoin Cash will have no value and that there will be nothing to lose by ignoring our coin on the alternative chain? Okay, I will take your word for it, but I think Bitcoin Cash WILL have a value.  I should mention, the optics surrounding this stance here is terrible....

I guess it will take time before we'll get the payments at this moment and I'm expecting that it will be sent on August 2 when the storm is already calm. Thanks for the prompt update betcoin, long live!

Thanks for the update. The main point is that if the Bitcoins are deposited (and then withdrawn) within the today we will be still able to get the corresponding BCC on that.

We apologize for any delay, the weekend Betcoin.ag employees had full workloads due to work on the new withdraw payment system. As we have mentioned, weekends are for most employees free of work and also the time for weekend tasks is divided into fewer people. We are very sorry. Do not worry about your Bitcoins on the Betcoin.ag accounts. Bitcoin will remain one coin, and the split will lead to the creation of an alternative coin that will not, however, be Bitcoin. Thank you.

Let's just wait patiently people, betcoin will handle this 

No, not yet. As I wrote, this month is crucial to have the payment on time, because of the fork.
That is why I find a bit disappointing that we didn't get it credited on our accounts.

Anyone got credited yet ?
This month's payment taking a lot more time than usual.

It's good to see you didn't leave, Betcoin.ag still kicking ass. Great campaign, hope to continue in here for a long time.

Regarding BCC: Just ignore it, don't bother setting up wallets or anything, it's meaningless. Stick to the real Bitcoin.

I am glad that i am not the only one that is yet to receive the payment. I have been with them since stage 1 so i believe in the campaign. We just have to be a bit more patient cause the bitcoin will surely come.

Betcoin.ag didn't make any statements regarding BCC, so the only option in case of late payment is to eventually withdraw it in non-Bitcoin currency taking into account all the related risk (exchange ratio and recent ETH volatility).

You all forget that you have other options here.
You don't need to withdraw funds from Betcoin.ag account and can just wait to see what happens after Aug 1.
Other option is to choose different crypto currency in your betcoin.ag account, , Etherum or Litecoin, and withdraw your earned funds like Etherum or Litecoin, not as bitcoin.

In any case this month is very crucial to have the payments on time due to the planned fork.
It is a known issue and Betcoin.ag should have been prepared for that.
I am in the campaign from the very beginning and I know that the payments were always made in due time, but any delay this month would be very harmful indeed.

Betcoin already made the decision: https://www.betcoin.ag/bitcoin-hard-fork-our-position-service-will-run-no-restrictions  The question is thus, who keeps the perceived profits off of the coin on the alternate chain (BCC)?  The answer seems to be ---> the entity holding the private keys to the addresses those coins are held at when the fork is initiated.  Who's holding those private keys and who will get the profits if we can't secure them with our own private keys?  Xapo gave us the option to have the BCC automatically sold and converted to BTC and added to our balance....the exchanges have similar options....So, who gets the BCC profits held on betcoin?

EDIT: (Email from Xapo for reference)

"Important Update: Xapo and the Hard Fork

Hi cjmoles,

This communication is to explain what you can expect from Xapo in the event of a fork in the Bitcoin blockchain - which may occur on August 1st, 2017.

There is a proposal, known as Bitcoin Cash, that may create a fork in the Bitcoin network. This means that after August 1st, 2017 there may be two versions of the Bitcoin blockchain and two separate digital currencies: the original Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.
Xapo ensures the security of our customers’ bitcoins above all else and, in the event of a fork, your assets will be safe at Xapo.
We may, however, temporarily halt incoming and outgoing transfers from the Bitcoin network until we confirm that such transfers can be done safely.

We may also temporarily suspend the Xapo Debit Card and the conversion from dollars and other currencies to bitcoin and vice versa.

In other words, your assets will be safe at Xapo but you may not be able to transact for a period of time.

In the event of two surviving blockchains, we will support one blockchain, the one with the most accumulated difficulty.
Xapo will give you the choice to withdraw the coins in the secondary blockchain or to let Xapo sell the coins in that secondary blockchain and automatically add that value to your account in the supported blockchain. There is no estimated date as to when this will be determined, as it will be only when we deem it safe and sensible to do so.

So, if you would like to make bitcoin transactions during a fork, you will need to move your bitcoins out of Xapo before 23:00hrs UTC on July 31st. Any funds in the Vault that you would like to use during a fork will need to be retrieved from the Vault no later than 23:00 hrs UTC on July 28th so you have sufficient time to send them out of Xapo before the fork.

If you want to transact with any secondary digital currency that is created after August 1st, you should move your funds out of Xapo now. We do not have an estimated date for when the other supported blockchain will be safe to transact.
At Xapo, your bitcoins are secure and we allow you to decide what to do with the coins in your account.

The Xapo Team"

Not right at all. It depends on the wallet provider the decision on where they want to connect, But the majority of wallet provider as well as exchange will stick on BTC. Only few miner support BCC not exceeding 20%. Don't get over hype that your money will be stuck because betcoin is not an idiot.

No....I received emails from coinbase, xapo, several exchanges....etc....all stopping deposits and withdrawals until the dust settles....it's not assumption.....so if i can't get my coin off of betcoin before those exchangers temporarily close down, then my bitcoin is stuck.....AND bitcoin cash (BCC) isn't an assumption.....it's gonna be a fork....and it WILL have value.  So, if we can't secure our coin into a privately secure wallet before the split, then we are losing any value attributed bitcoin cash ----> not an assumption ----> a fact.