Topic: Betcoindice.tm Untrustworthy: Fakes volume, makes house bets on blockchain. - page 3. (Read 7777 times)
September 25, 2013, 04:18:21 AM
I think that's a different discussion if you are talking about blockchain spam. Wasn't some other dice gambling accused of spamming the blockchain before? Or is one company ok to spam blockchain but not another. Who's supposed to decide? That's an issue of miner fees and has nothing to do with unethical marketing.
September 25, 2013, 03:47:51 AM
I came to the same conclusion one week before, so I guess there is something fishy going on since Im not alone...
there's no smoke without fire
It is false marketing to give the impression of a huge client base so you can attract clients.
How can a new satoshi clone that no one knew of until a few weeks ago have MORE activity than the original Satoshi Dice?
The only conclusion is: most of the bets are fake, placed by scripts & run by the owners of the site.
It's not only unethical to the clients AND to competitors to have false marketing but it is also unethical to spam the blockchain with fake bets every second.
So when Coca-Cola advertisements make it seem like the whole world drinks Coke they must be unethical. Got ya.there's no smoke without fire
Betcoin.Tm want to give the impression that they are more popular than Satoshi Dice already, within a month from start.
Im sure the owners of that site play there with fake accounts and use their own coins (newly mined coins + "mixed" coins) to give the impression that their site is more popular than Satoshi Dice so they can attract real players eventually.
What do you guys think?
Im sure the owners of that site play there with fake accounts and use their own coins (newly mined coins + "mixed" coins) to give the impression that their site is more popular than Satoshi Dice so they can attract real players eventually.
What do you guys think?
It is false marketing to give the impression of a huge client base so you can attract clients.
How can a new satoshi clone that no one knew of until a few weeks ago have MORE activity than the original Satoshi Dice?
The only conclusion is: most of the bets are fake, placed by scripts & run by the owners of the site.
It's not only unethical to the clients AND to competitors to have false marketing but it is also unethical to spam the blockchain with fake bets every second.
September 25, 2013, 03:25:24 AM
I came to the same conclusion one week before, so I guess there is something fishy going on since Im not alone...
there's no smoke without fire
It is false marketing to give the impression of a huge client base so you can attract clients.
How can a new satoshi clone that no one knew of until a few weeks ago have MORE activity than the original Satoshi Dice?
The only conclusion is: most of the bets are fake, placed by scripts & run by the owners of the site.
It's not only unethical to the clients AND to competitors to have false marketing but it is also unethical to spam the blockchain with fake bets every second.
So when Coca-Cola advertisements make it seem like the whole world drinks Coke they must be unethical. Got ya. there's no smoke without fire
Betcoin.Tm want to give the impression that they are more popular than Satoshi Dice already, within a month from start.
Im sure the owners of that site play there with fake accounts and use their own coins (newly mined coins + "mixed" coins) to give the impression that their site is more popular than Satoshi Dice so they can attract real players eventually.
What do you guys think?
Im sure the owners of that site play there with fake accounts and use their own coins (newly mined coins + "mixed" coins) to give the impression that their site is more popular than Satoshi Dice so they can attract real players eventually.
What do you guys think?
It is false marketing to give the impression of a huge client base so you can attract clients.
How can a new satoshi clone that no one knew of until a few weeks ago have MORE activity than the original Satoshi Dice?
The only conclusion is: most of the bets are fake, placed by scripts & run by the owners of the site.
It's not only unethical to the clients AND to competitors to have false marketing but it is also unethical to spam the blockchain with fake bets every second.
September 25, 2013, 03:01:25 AM
I came to the same conclusion one week before, so I guess there is something fishy going on since Im not alone...
there's no smoke without fire
It is false marketing to give the impression of a huge client base so you can attract clients.
How can a new satoshi clone that no one knew of until a few weeks ago have MORE activity than the original Satoshi Dice?
The only conclusion is: most of the bets are fake, placed by scripts & run by the owners of the site.
It's not only unethical to the clients AND to competitors to have false marketing but it is also unethical to spam the blockchain with fake bets every second.
there's no smoke without fire
Betcoin.Tm want to give the impression that they are more popular than Satoshi Dice already, within a month from start.
Im sure the owners of that site play there with fake accounts and use their own coins (newly mined coins + "mixed" coins) to give the impression that their site is more popular than Satoshi Dice so they can attract real players eventually.
What do you guys think?
Im sure the owners of that site play there with fake accounts and use their own coins (newly mined coins + "mixed" coins) to give the impression that their site is more popular than Satoshi Dice so they can attract real players eventually.
What do you guys think?
It is false marketing to give the impression of a huge client base so you can attract clients.
How can a new satoshi clone that no one knew of until a few weeks ago have MORE activity than the original Satoshi Dice?
The only conclusion is: most of the bets are fake, placed by scripts & run by the owners of the site.
It's not only unethical to the clients AND to competitors to have false marketing but it is also unethical to spam the blockchain with fake bets every second.
September 24, 2013, 05:51:59 PM
I've been quite puzzled from the fact that betcoindice.tm, a newly created and unknown dice/spin the wheel site, is getting so many transactions as observed on the homepage of Blockchain.info. Here's the results from blockchain digging.
16wnSLn1BxLAsLZi8weuLh4cdR19bsXRkP
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 12UZKZWpwLrywA159Rf3beRPb2zzPvyE2M
12UZKZWpwLrywA159Rf3beRPb2zzPvyE2M
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 1BPCo6aqB37ta3yMvU8jX754959CeGk9Ae
1BPCo6aqB37ta3yMvU8jX754959CeGk9Ae
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 15K7z2h1rPM486RodM4PamPme27AQaEy3g
15K7z2h1rPM486RodM4PamPme27AQaEy3g
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 12rTLxT8GomYxddhezC7gWHqh4z6meGDtp
12rTLxT8GomYxddhezC7gWHqh4z6meGDtp
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 19aWcx5xZLjk8wM8zMyserbLGc6sCg7rYG
19aWcx5xZLjk8wM8zMyserbLGc6sCg7rYG
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to (with only 0.16 BTC leftover) 1JE3eWVUxd8Co8QWTgdGcAXDKGidKH4uFg
1JE3eWVUxd8Co8QWTgdGcAXDKGidKH4uFg
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each along with inputs from 16wnSLn1BxLAsLZi8weuLh4cdR19bsXRkP
Every single address I've checked that has received 0.03 BTC bets on Betdice and has around 1400-1500 transactions each as of writing. Pretty blatantly obvious.
16wnSLn1BxLAsLZi8weuLh4cdR19bsXRkP
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 12UZKZWpwLrywA159Rf3beRPb2zzPvyE2M
12UZKZWpwLrywA159Rf3beRPb2zzPvyE2M
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 1BPCo6aqB37ta3yMvU8jX754959CeGk9Ae
1BPCo6aqB37ta3yMvU8jX754959CeGk9Ae
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 15K7z2h1rPM486RodM4PamPme27AQaEy3g
15K7z2h1rPM486RodM4PamPme27AQaEy3g
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 12rTLxT8GomYxddhezC7gWHqh4z6meGDtp
12rTLxT8GomYxddhezC7gWHqh4z6meGDtp
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to 19aWcx5xZLjk8wM8zMyserbLGc6sCg7rYG
19aWcx5xZLjk8wM8zMyserbLGc6sCg7rYG
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each. Change address to (with only 0.16 BTC leftover) 1JE3eWVUxd8Co8QWTgdGcAXDKGidKH4uFg
1JE3eWVUxd8Co8QWTgdGcAXDKGidKH4uFg
Funds ~100 addresses with 0.03 BTC each along with inputs from 16wnSLn1BxLAsLZi8weuLh4cdR19bsXRkP
Every single address I've checked that has received 0.03 BTC bets on Betdice and has around 1400-1500 transactions each as of writing. Pretty blatantly obvious.
Would you elaborate for guest and I exactly what your accusing BetcoinTM of doing? I think your jumping the gun honestly.
September 24, 2013, 11:16:57 AM
Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
This is a pretty strong argument for this practice being unethical. I think a lot of businesses will simulate extra business, like a real Casino playing ambient noise of coins being spewed out or even Starbucks grinding coffee in their stores in the morning to "seed" the smell of fresh coffee, but those are usually at their own cost. This actually uses network and hard disk capacity across the public network, negatively impacting the community.
So @betcoin: STAHP it!
September 24, 2013, 09:58:57 AM
Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
This is a pretty strong argument for this practice being unethical. I think a lot of businesses will simulate extra business, like a real Casino playing ambient noise of coins being spewed out or even Starbucks grinding coffee in their stores in the morning to "seed" the smell of fresh coffee, but those are usually at their own cost. This actually uses network and hard disk capacity across the public network, negatively impacting the community.
So @betcoin: STAHP it!
I can send a bunch of transactions to myself. Would I be hated in the same way if I did that?
What if I was using a mixing service (i.e inputs.io), where 1 transaction could be multiplied into 5, 10, or more?
September 24, 2013, 07:07:54 AM
Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
This is a pretty strong argument for this practice being unethical. I think a lot of businesses will simulate extra business, like a real Casino playing ambient noise of coins being spewed out or even Starbucks grinding coffee in their stores in the morning to "seed" the smell of fresh coffee, but those are usually at their own cost. This actually uses network and hard disk capacity across the public network, negatively impacting the community.
So @betcoin: STAHP it!
I can send a bunch of transactions to myself. Would I be hated in the same way if I did that?
What if I was using a mixing service (i.e inputs.io), where 1 transaction could be multiplied into 5, 10, or more?
September 24, 2013, 06:42:34 AM
Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
This is a pretty strong argument for this practice being unethical. I think a lot of businesses will simulate extra business, like a real Casino playing ambient noise of coins being spewed out or even Starbucks grinding coffee in their stores in the morning to "seed" the smell of fresh coffee, but those are usually at their own cost. This actually uses network and hard disk capacity across the public network, negatively impacting the community.
So @betcoin: STAHP it!
September 23, 2013, 01:28:33 PM
No offense, but your signature sure does have a lot of BS in it.
Worst part is that people click Bullshit. Dont ask, it works
September 23, 2013, 09:32:19 AM
You too can help tell everyone the evilness of this company.
Shall I call it a free stress test for a brighter future?
You are welcome to mail me and DDOS my server. Those are just coins out of your pocket. I have no loss. Consider opening your own DDOSing company to legitimize yourself.
No offense, but your signature sure does have a lot of BS in it. Code:
[url=http://goo.gl/W9xu1M][color=#FF8367][size=9pt][glow=#6C0000,1,1][b]Betcoin.tm - deliberately DDosing Bitcoin[/b][/glow][/size][/color][/url]
Shall I call it a free stress test for a brighter future?
You are welcome to mail me and DDOS my server. Those are just coins out of your pocket. I have no loss. Consider opening your own DDOSing company to legitimize yourself.
September 23, 2013, 08:39:19 AM
You too can help tell everyone the evilness of this company.
Shall I call it a free stress test for a brighter future?
You are welcome to mail me and DDOS my server. Those are just coins out of your pocket. I have no loss. Consider opening your own DDOSing company to legitimize yourself.
Code:
[url=http://goo.gl/W9xu1M][color=#FF8367][size=9pt][glow=#6C0000,1,1][b]Betcoin.tm - deliberately DDosing Bitcoin[/b][/glow][/size][/color][/url]
Shall I call it a free stress test for a brighter future?
You are welcome to mail me and DDOS my server. Those are just coins out of your pocket. I have no loss. Consider opening your own DDOSing company to legitimize yourself.
September 22, 2013, 11:27:30 PM
Why can't the owner of Betcoin.tm post here explaining his reasoning behind this?
Would definitely be worth while to at least attempt to amend their wrong doing & at least explain lol
They're more interested in sending rude email replies and seeing a DDoS 30 minutes later. Would definitely be worth while to at least attempt to amend their wrong doing & at least explain lol
September 22, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
Why can't the owner of Betcoin.tm post here explaining his reasoning behind this?
Would definitely be worth while to at least attempt to amend their wrong doing & at least explain lol
Would definitely be worth while to at least attempt to amend their wrong doing & at least explain lol
September 22, 2013, 11:03:37 PM
I don't get what your trying to get at or what the problem is?
I actually done very well playing there on good days. Support (Peter) is always quick on issues that I have had and been
taking care of. If what your saying is true I don't see what the big deal is. If creating fake traffic brings in customers and he pays
all winning bets, more power to him. BTC gambling sites are starting to pop-up every where and if that gives them the edge to bring more players then it's better than paying for advertising. Or maybe he just likes to move his big bank roll around when he gets bored..heh
The site is legit, I've cashed out large amounts this month and it's been paid on every cashout with a 2min wait before hitting my wallet.
The place is always my first stop whenever I got some spare change to waste.
Unless I'm missing something?
I actually done very well playing there on good days. Support (Peter) is always quick on issues that I have had and been
taking care of. If what your saying is true I don't see what the big deal is. If creating fake traffic brings in customers and he pays
all winning bets, more power to him. BTC gambling sites are starting to pop-up every where and if that gives them the edge to bring more players then it's better than paying for advertising. Or maybe he just likes to move his big bank roll around when he gets bored..heh
The site is legit, I've cashed out large amounts this month and it's been paid on every cashout with a 2min wait before hitting my wallet.
The place is always my first stop whenever I got some spare change to waste.
Unless I'm missing something?
I disagree. I believe that is unethical, dishonest and indicates untrustworthy behavior.
September 22, 2013, 08:04:29 AM
Thanks for pointing this out. I also noticed that they came out of nowhere and getting heavy action since the beginning, but I didn't think twice about it.
September 21, 2013, 10:42:50 PM
I guess I have to change my sig a bit Satoshidice is not the only criminal
Satoshidice is not the only criminal September 21, 2013, 10:38:40 PM
Bump.
September 20, 2013, 06:26:12 AM
Then it is still extra bits for some with a 56k connection guys to download.... although they can switch to inputs.io 
September 20, 2013, 02:20:19 AM
Thanks Tf for pointing out the issue that I have doubted along. I have been some time since betcointm is out. Those floating transaction is quite mysterious as the frequency is similar to the freq of SD. meanwhile this is seen before the ad was bought in bitcointalk. Plus AFAIK it also optimize for Chinese user with Chinese interface. But there aren't ads on there either. This unveiling finally gives me a full pic on wtf is really happening.
Betcointm. This is my comment. If you think that this method is ethical for you to do your work in Bitcoin. And it is ethical and responsible for you to also copy everything out there and attempt to start a new business out of it with a copied from ground up script interface etc. you really shall not be a bitcoiner.
Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
It's OK, ultraprune is coming.. Betcointm. This is my comment. If you think that this method is ethical for you to do your work in Bitcoin. And it is ethical and responsible for you to also copy everything out there and attempt to start a new business out of it with a copied from ground up script interface etc. you really shall not be a bitcoiner.
Ps. Think about gigabytes of desktop hard disk space across the world have been wasted just by your irresponsible action to start this unethical business.
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