Topic: BETCOINPOKER.AG is officially back! | 50% Rakeback | 200% First deposit bonus - page 2. (Read 20742 times)

We are also hosting 2x 8 mBTC GTD Freeroll tournaments today!

Don't miss that chance! Password can be found in our Discord channel - https://discord.gg/54EwYxP

The most active hours are usually early night EST/EDT, around our main 8 mBTC Freeroll.
We expect a traffic bump very soon, as we made some new good partnerships!
Announcement related to that will be posted soon.

Meanwhile, we invite everyone to join our daily 8 mBTC GTD Freeroll, and to visit our Discord channel - https://discord.gg/54EwYxP

Love the new HTML5 client guys.  The lobby is pretty easy to filter.  And I like the BBJ tables go down up to the lowest stakes...  There's very low traffic tho (I hope that changes soon).  What time does it usually pick up?

i think we need a functional poker & fun experience:
if i were you, i would join a new poker room, because new is better!

Just a reminder, our daily 8 mBTC Freeroll starts in 10 minutes!

Don't forget to try our new HTML 5 client!

We are happy to inform you that our new fully responsive HTML5 client is now LIVE!

You can try it out here - https://play.betcoinpoker.ag/

Our Daily 8 mBTC GTD Discord freeroll is now temporary without a password! Feel free to join it and try the client.


Note: In order to see all tournaments, go to the SIT N GO section, select filters and click on "scheduled".

Any feedback is welcome!

Good luck!

That is the same link as the one above - https://discord.gg/54EwYxP

And it is working correctly. In case you experience issues joining through it, please contact our live support. Screenshots will help.

please, post a working link!

Hello, where are you clicking it exactly? Because the link works for us, also we have people joining it daily, through that link.
There is no expiration set on that link.

Hello,

If I am getting straight rakeback on a different WPN skin account, would I still be able to get the 50% rakeback if I create a betcoin poker account?

your discord invite code is expired, nobody can join!

fix your discord invite link!

Our HTML5 client is just around the corner!!! Official announcement within the next few days!

Meanwhile, don't forget that we are hosting a daily 8 mBTC Freeroll for which you can grab the password in our Discord channel!

https://discord.gg/54EwYxP

We are also hosting a small daily giveaway there, which can grant you 0.20 mBTC for free!

Thank you for that. Any feedback is always valuable, either positive or negative. And we are not saying that as a generic answer.
Some of the things you've listed are noted, and we will work on them.

the andrews on acr and bcp had the same voice not just the name,  but this is unrelated my point was there was alot of coincidences that led to my assumptions, and most of them are probably not accurate.
"We know that some things might lead you to such thoughts" this is kind of the point i was trying to make, with all of the things that seem to not add up, coincidences , bad rep. spanning multiple skins it's reasonable to believe there are shady things going on behind the scenes that may or may not actually be true.

alot of your players you get will have their own history with these other skins, and a majority will never know/read about the ownership change. even though you own betcoinpokerag the same ones that ruined it's rep is using betcoinag. no matter what you do now, you will have to trust them 100% to not bring bad attention to their selves because it will be connected to you regardless " the majority will never know/read about the ownership change" if you google either domains betcoinag or betcoinpokerag you will see the site,mixed reviews and scam reports on the first page, you won't see any info about the ownership transfer until the 2nd or 3rd page.

just re reading this it seems like babbling and that i have no point that i'm trying to make.
"andrew" and all of the other problems i had was examples to show that i'm genuinely unsure if its new management "which as i stated i have no problem playing there even if it's not" so i don't need convincing.
the point of it is that i'm sure there is other people with similar doubts/questions/concerns that won't bother looking "deep" into it ---"but there are many other facts which can put you in contradiction with those "things"."---- i'm sure there is alot of facts i'm missing, and i'm not interested enough to search multiple pages from multiple sources, like a majority of people today, it's not worth their time and effort to scavenge all of the pieces .

having no bad rep since you started building it up is good. but my opinion is unchanged if you want people to truly trust you, you need to address alot of the concerns people have or will have. not a dozen pages in the back of a thread. "revamped betcoinpoker" should be in the top five search results before we see all of the scam reports. the homepage should have links to good reviews from reputable sites,blogpost about future plans/updates, Q/A , " reach your playerbase on a personal level" instead of a professional anonymous entity"--- these may be horrible suggestions but right now the homepage has twice the amount of bonuses listed then the "bonus" page does.

apart from all of the examples and suggestions.
my overall point is make these facts that i and everyone else should have more easily obtainable.i have no experience running a service like this so it's probably foolish of me to give advice just wanted to share my thoughts.

Betcoin.ag and BetcoinPoker.ag never had any relation/payment processing relation or management relation with WPN.
The only connection the Poker had with WPN was in a matter of shared tournaments. That is all.

The reason we decided to acquire BetcoinPoker is the fact it already had active users base. We believed and still believe, as we are doing our best, that the bad reputation which is all coming back from 2016, can be fixed and go straight to positive direction. As we stated in the previous post, we strongly encourage people to look for issues from Feb. 2018 until now. Shortly said, we believe you won't find such. Again, we are the poker part and standalone.
Regarding your connection to the support agent which you encountered on ACR, named "Andrew", that is a really common name. We don't even know if/how/to what was "Betcoin Andrew" promoted to, nor it is any of our business to chase such information, but we are quite sure it got nothing to do with WPN.

Another thing, believe it or not, WPN is not possessing or managing all the skins/brands as you assumed. We know that some things might lead you to such thoughts, but there are many other facts which can put you in contradiction with those "things".

We would like to remind you again, that our team is building our reputation since Feb. 2018. Whatever happened before that time is not directly related to us.

I joined a few giveaways last year, and ive personally never had issues cashing out before 2016 and now. before 2016 i had alot of issues with management and how poorly it was being ran "half the time i couldn't access my account" "a troll was left unbanned for 4years begging/scamming/toxic" management said they wouldn't ban because users should have free speech, i had multiple post removed from the site for addressing real concerns around the same time, they ignored security flaws i reported, reset all of my referrals which still hasn't been fix'd after several attempts.

this has nothing to do with "new management" if there actually is new management.


but i'm still not convinced it's under new management.


the main reason i think it's the same group...
https://www.betcoin.ag/betcoin-paul-promoted-higher-position-within-organization

when paul left the site started going down hill, but it seems odd he would gain a promotion at wpn "if it was 2 separate organizations" but from his statement it seems that betcoin is a community inside the wpn organization.

--- when i found these security flaws and they where ignored for months i contacted other skins "because it could impact all players who use the network" i called americas cardroom ,the supports name was andrew
when i brought it up there was a brief silence before he responded with sarcasm while talking me in circles avoiding the issue  "being a smart ass" when i called blackchippoker rep said "hi this is andrew how may i help you" with the exact same voice.  meanwhile guess who is overseeing my ticket at betcoin? "andrew"


3rd reason
winningpokernetwork has a designated 3rd party "pretty sure it's a branch wpn runs, but lets just say it's not"  handling all of the payment processing. All of the other skins use this, ive seen on 2plus2 somewhere that it's required "but since i'm not sure lets assume it's not required"the "3rd party" is capable of anon btc transactions. why would betcoin be the only skin not using this, and why is betcoin the only skin wpn hasn't officially affiliated it's self with, why is it the only one to ever have a scam accusation on this scale?


From my years of experience playing with wpn i have gathered enough info to make a reasonable assumption that winningpokernetwork owns 100% of these skins and there's not a commission structure offered to investors or popular cardroom brands.

But since me or noone else has ever been able to verify ownership of any of these skins this is just a theory, that can't be proven.


If wpn does own betcoinpoker like i believe, it's not really new management.

if you bought it and really are a new team, then here are my questions.

#1 Why would you buy a brand when it's near it's peak for bad reputation, why would you share that brand with the previous team that destroyed it "and are still using it" would it not be easier to join wpn under a new brand?
#2 Why should anyone believe there is new management when the details about the entire claimed transaction are still a mystery.


like i said i have had bad experiences with this brand and wpn, but i never had a reason to believe i wouldn't get cashed out before or now, every request has been processed and i still use the skins mentioned so for playing low stakes i trust you enough to accept the risk, but there is soo much that doesn't add up, the entire network seems shady. i'm not posting this to bring up past issues. this is what you need to address if you want more players to trust betcoin again, because so far all you have done is claimed to be a new person and that people should trust you based on that.

Some clearance:

- Our new HTML5 client will be released within the next 10 days!

- We started world's first entirely crypto poker network! Two clients already pending to join the network.

- All of the current bonuses, freerolls and terms are remaining the same until further notice!

- We left Winning Poker Network and started our own, as mentioned above!

- Our Daily SNIPE 100 mBTC GTD tournament is now LIVE! There are also steps to it, starting with Freerolls!

- We are in a process of adding our own exclusive tournaments, both MTTs and SNGs! They will pop up on waves, withing the next 10-15 days!

In the next few days we will make some big nice announcements!

Stay tuned!

It's normal being happy with the 200% as you won't find promotions like that all the time. I also think that 200% is good in first deposit. About what you have posted what about the rest you wanted to say. They have also another promotion like the free roll.

The trust rating is set by a person who never ever contacted us or spoke with us at all, since the relaunch.
Also the case which is pointed in the trust rating, is a case from 2016 and casino related topic. Absolutely nothing to do with poker.
We decided to do this from scratch with a new account and everything. We are not the kind of team who also posts and bumps their topics/products with fake accounts.

You can also look around the forum for any Betcoin Poker related issue since the start of 2018.

Our Discord community is growing as well, and we are providing daily freebies there, which all players there can confirm, that the prizes are real, so are cashouts and everything related to a valid operating poker room.