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legendary
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Name: Betcrypto.cr
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Date Registered: November 06, 2022, 04:46:20 AM
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and something strange that since the 4th of april that OP doesn't make any post here in the forum, we're talking about more than 20 days in which he didn't come to answer any question asked in this thread, I also happen to be one of the many people who asked him questions on this thread, but it's really strange that he keeps entering the forum and doesn't answer anything people are asking him, you don't have to be a genius to understand what could be going on here, so I'll give you my theory of what could be going on here happening, OP must not have any money, OP is not earning 28000$ as he said, so his strategy is to create this thread so that people click on his casino link, I have this theory because of that:

We want to raise at least $400k, you can go to the site now and create an account and test everything to see the site is 100% operational

he suggested that people create an account at the casino and test it and of course his intention from the beginning was to get people's attention and get people to create an account at his casino which is an unlicensed casino in curacao, I hope people analyze everything very well before using this casino that the OP never came to answer any question, if he doesn't even have time to answer questions, so imagine if you have someone problem in the casino,, they will probably never be answered or will be waiting for months any answer
hero member
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OP sounds someworth serious and genuine though but I want to get it straight and clear from OP as to why OP should do a fundraiser when there is  up to $500k spear funds available. With a good service promotion and advertisement, you do not need a fundraiser as that alone would get you what you want in engaging with the services of a good signature campaign manager here who can run a campaign to create awareness.

As you have said about your casino being a KYC free casino, it is enough to attract the traffic you want as it is a borderless casino and VPN friendly. Not doubt about that till we see it running.

Once again welcome onboard. I assume this is your official announcement thread since you have made notice of your casino here, you should upgrade your account to a copper member account so that you could upload graphics from your casino sites for first hand view.
Even if he is serious, his offer lacks a lot information that an investor must know or see before they can make their mind if they want to invest in it or not. The very first thing is that there is no mention about investment threshold or anything about the profit percentage or anything, if I was an investor, I would want to see those things first.

After that, being an investor, why would I trust them with my money? What's the guarantee that my money will not just be taken away and I will keep getting profits while my investment will also be safe with them?
well, this is the essence of several problems, namely the lack of clarity in information sharing profits from casinos with investors. on the other hand investors need something they can trust before placing their money in this casino.
like some investors might already be here waiting for further information but it seems like the OP also has to respond to all of this if he really wants to run his project.
legendary
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OP sounds someworth serious and genuine though but I want to get it straight and clear from OP as to why OP should do a fundraiser when there is  up to $500k spear funds available. With a good service promotion and advertisement, you do not need a fundraiser as that alone would get you what you want in engaging with the services of a good signature campaign manager here who can run a campaign to create awareness.

As you have said about your casino being a KYC free casino, it is enough to attract the traffic you want as it is a borderless casino and VPN friendly. Not doubt about that till we see it running.

Once again welcome onboard. I assume this is your official announcement thread since you have made notice of your casino here, you should upgrade your account to a copper member account so that you could upload graphics from your casino sites for first hand view.
Even if he is serious, his offer lacks a lot information that an investor must know or see before they can make their mind if they want to invest in it or not. The very first thing is that there is no mention about investment threshold or anything about the profit percentage or anything, if I was an investor, I would want to see those things first.

After that, being an investor, why would I trust them with my money? What's the guarantee that my money will not just be taken away and I will keep getting profits while my investment will also be safe with them?
Credentials should be indeed shown in order for people to trust the people behind any project. Terms and conditions will be more likely discussed internally covering assurance that no money would be ran away with the project. Maybe OP is just checking if there will be people who would be interested to invest but problem is, how will their interest be built up if there is nothing being predented in a single glance. We are in cryptoindustry wherein personal information is hidden to the masses. And I guess that is an enough reason why many people won't trust that easily and also, $400k is not a small money to put into risk without atleast getting an assurance for the investor's end.
hero member
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OP sounds someworth serious and genuine though but I want to get it straight and clear from OP as to why OP should do a fundraiser when there is  up to $500k spear funds available. With a good service promotion and advertisement, you do not need a fundraiser as that alone would get you what you want in engaging with the services of a good signature campaign manager here who can run a campaign to create awareness.

As you have said about your casino being a KYC free casino, it is enough to attract the traffic you want as it is a borderless casino and VPN friendly. Not doubt about that till we see it running.

Once again welcome onboard. I assume this is your official announcement thread since you have made notice of your casino here, you should upgrade your account to a copper member account so that you could upload graphics from your casino sites for first hand view.
Even if he is serious, his offer lacks a lot information that an investor must know or see before they can make their mind if they want to invest in it or not. The very first thing is that there is no mention about investment threshold or anything about the profit percentage or anything, if I was an investor, I would want to see those things first.

After that, being an investor, why would I trust them with my money? What's the guarantee that my money will not just be taken away and I will keep getting profits while my investment will also be safe with them?
Really hard to make out some partnership or making out some investment here on online space on which there's no way that you could be able to take your money back once problem had occurred or simply you had been scammed out. This is why its not really that shocking that there would be no people would be interested on making some partnerships or would really be putting up their funds on something like this.

@Op, i do saw that you are online today, are there any updates in regarding about if there are investors who would really be tending to dive in with your current offering?

Just like on what i had mentioned earlier that if you are planning to have some extension then you would really be able to accumulate $400k in no time if you are really that indeed growing
then it wont really be that a problem on raising this amount or you would really be finding up some potential investors on your local or physical because you cant really get any support
out of this community.

Just like on what said above on where people cant really just trust up on putting up their money if the information given is lacking or not really that been showed or mentioned.
hero member
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OP sounds someworth serious and genuine though but I want to get it straight and clear from OP as to why OP should do a fundraiser when there is  up to $500k spear funds available. With a good service promotion and advertisement, you do not need a fundraiser as that alone would get you what you want in engaging with the services of a good signature campaign manager here who can run a campaign to create awareness.

As you have said about your casino being a KYC free casino, it is enough to attract the traffic you want as it is a borderless casino and VPN friendly. Not doubt about that till we see it running.

Once again welcome onboard. I assume this is your official announcement thread since you have made notice of your casino here, you should upgrade your account to a copper member account so that you could upload graphics from your casino sites for first hand view.
Even if he is serious, his offer lacks a lot information that an investor must know or see before they can make their mind if they want to invest in it or not. The very first thing is that there is no mention about investment threshold or anything about the profit percentage or anything, if I was an investor, I would want to see those things first.

After that, being an investor, why would I trust them with my money? What's the guarantee that my money will not just be taken away and I will keep getting profits while my investment will also be safe with them?
hero member
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1) The casino has to have high daily traffic of gamblers, what means there is a constant flux of money, which will proportionate investors' fast profit;
Yes, it's true that investors will be happy to invest large amounts of their money because there is a quite a large percentage of profit if the velocity of money in the casino can be equivalent to what is generated.
Even gamblers who play for big wins don't need to worry if the amount of money in the casino's bankroll is large enough.

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2) The casino has to be highly reputable, so investors won't be so concerned about letting their money idle there for long periods of time.
If the casino has a good reputation, investors also have no fear that the money invested can be lost due to being cheated. Moreover, investors will always support the development of the casino so that the money invested can generate greater profits.

But investing in a casino bankroll requires big money if only with small money it will be in vain because the profits will be insignificant.
legendary
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these offers to participate in the bankrolls of a casino are always intriguing but so many questions arise Smiley and such a "short" initial topic does not provide all the answers to the various doubts...

What guarantees are offered to those who participate in the bankroll (in the sense that you don't run away or that there is a security plan to avoid fraudulent activities on the site)?
how do you track profits and how would they be distributed taking into account management fees?
As already written by other users, a casino without KYC is not compliant, up to what point do you expect to remain without KYC?

More than anything else, isn't it convenient to request a loan from a "classic" credit institution since probably if the site is profitable it will certainly allow you to repay it?
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Once again welcome onboard. I assume this is your official announcement thread since you have made notice of your casino here, you should upgrade your account to a copper member account so that you could upload graphics from your casino sites for first hand view.
This is a separate thread because they have an official ann thread which is this and made last November of 2022, Betcrypto.cr Casino - Sportsbook 100% KYC free available worldwide (new update)

And even though this is a great concept of investment, it has lost popularity along the years inside crypto gambling industry due to not fulfilling those both requirements. And I fear neither Betcrypto will be able to fulfill them, because it's also a minor unknown casino.
I saw that many casinos before offer bankroll investments and that's like one of the best things in the market until a few years ago.

Because those stats that I've seen from other casinos sharing how profitable investing on them are no longer profitable or just a break even. IIRC, there have been members that made a thread about their bankroll investments in different casinos.
hero member
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Hi we are thinking on starting a fundraise to increase our current bankroll we have $500k but we know our site is going to get huge fast because we are going to be 100% KYC free and available worldwide.

At this moment we have a list of high rollers $1.5M+ and a list of 10K users who are waiting for the site to get out.

The site is 100% ready (we are just finishing some details with the marketing material) and we have about 500 players without a single ad our official announcement.

Last month the site made $28k profit in just pure random players who got to the site and we have regulars customers who spend on average $1k per week.

We want to raise at least $400k, you can go to the site now and create an account and test everything to see the site is 100% operational

Let me know what you think about this idea we have.
investment in casino, it's interesting and some people in this forum like this type of investment. although I very rarely invest in casino projects but I suggest that if you really want to carry out your plan it is better to find a trusted person in this forum to discuss all your plans and goals.
I'm sure you will be given the best solution for your goals and if this is true, I'm interested in seeing the development of your casino business.

oh yes one more thing, free KYC or no KYC gamblers really like this kind of gambling but for investors there must be a little doubt.
hero member
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Bankroll investments have always been very profitable. That is a great alternative for investors looking for different ways to make their money grow. However, there are two golden rules before applying for such investments:

1) The casino has to have high daily traffic of gamblers, what means there is a constant flux of money, which will proportionate investors' fast profit;

2) The casino has to be highly reputable, so investors won't be so concerned about letting their money idle there for long periods of time.

And even though this is a great concept of investment, it has lost popularity along the years inside crypto gambling industry due to not fulfilling those both requirements. And I fear neither Betcrypto will be able to fulfill them, because it's also a minor unknown casino.

If you want investors, you will have to build your reputation first and wait few years at least, that is enough time to show how legit and serious your business is. Good luck!
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Hi we are thinking on starting a fundraise to increase our current bankroll we have $500k but we know our site is going to get huge fast because we are going to be 100% KYC free and available worldwide.
At this moment we have a list of high rollers $1.5M+ and a list of 10K users who are waiting for the site to get out.
The site is 100% ready (we are just finishing some details with the marketing material) and we have about 500 players without a single ad our official announcement.
Last month the site made $28k profit in just pure random players who got to the site and we have regulars customers who spend on average $1k per week.
We want to raise at least $400k, you can go to the site now and create an account and test everything to see the site is 100% operational
Let me know what you think about this idea we have.

OP sounds someworth serious and genuine though but I want to get it straight and clear from OP as to why OP should do a fundraiser when there is  up to $500k spear funds available. With a good service promotion and advertisement, you do not need a fundraiser as that alone would get you what you want in engaging with the services of a good signature campaign manager here who can run a campaign to create awareness.

As you have said about your casino being a KYC free casino, it is enough to attract the traffic you want as it is a borderless casino and VPN friendly. Not doubt about that till we see it running.

Once again welcome onboard. I assume this is your official announcement thread since you have made notice of your casino here, you should upgrade your account to a copper member account so that you could upload graphics from your casino sites for first hand view.
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I would suggest if you have 500k + a marketing budget that you make a go at it as is. If you are that confident in your product, no reason to lose xx% looking for investors. You also don't want to look desperate.

If you need a manager to help with campaigns and help you build a reputation feel free to contact me. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/yahoo62278-campaign-management-servicesget-all-your-needs-here-1704638

Exactly sir because I totally agree with you that with the money they already have on ground, there is no need why they should be worried over wanting to open up a fundraiser campaign because that on the long run might seem as if they are so desperate and might create some suspicions and doubt in the minds of the players and potential customers.

I would suggest that rather than worry over wanting to open up your bankroll or starting a fundraiser, you should in building your brand without debts and gaining the trust of your already existing customers
hero member
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Having a free KYC casino was more of a clickbait to investors. Of course this will matter in the early stages but when you're getting into the business deeper, you would be required by the international law considering you're not just catering Costa Rican players.

This is definitely true. There were lots of casinos who have announced that they are KYC-free after launching just to attract more players who avoid KYC but due to regulations, they still required it later on which put a negative impact on their sites.
It is easy to say that a casino won't require KYC at an early phase but for sure, it will be hard for them to maintain it in the long run.
Also, it seems like they have lots of high-roller investors and it sounds too good to be true to a new casino. I hope their investors would also gain something as they are part of the establishment of the casino.
hero member
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Yes, that's a proof that they're doing well and knowing that it has come from random players. Meaning that those are just like passing-by players and managed to enjoy their casino. And how much more with the combination of all of those regular and loyal players that they have plus the passing-by strangers and customers that they've got. I think that they do have a lot of resouce but I also understand the thought and reason why OP is asking about this. Doing an expansion for better growth of the business really needs to have that balance and secured money for all the potential expenses that will be needed upon it's being done. Overall, if they'll able to capitalize and use what they've got now and do a slow growth and expansion, I think they can manage it because it seems that they're trying to chase the rush based on his explanation.
When it comes to financial decisions then it would really be not good on relying into communities voice and feedbacks on what you should gonna do as a business owner and talking about numbers or money that would be involved. As an owner then of course you do know on what you should gonna do and also you've seen that you are really that doing well considering that you are really that making profits or revenue
which it would really be just understandable that you should continue on what you are doing.Its true that having expansion is always been that recommended specially if you do see
your business is growing which it is really just a normal approach or act that should really be done.
It's totally fine to take some words of suggestions from the community in terms of financial and any decision that might affect the casino's business. They'll just have to listen and hear them out and it's all up to them if they think those suggestions can be applied to them and if it's actually good.
If they have no other routes than the said one of expanding, they can just choose the slowly but surely method based on what they've said that their casino is profitable as of the moment.
hero member
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I doubt anyone would want to "invest" in a new casino. And I am assuming it is KYC free casino because it isn't licensed and regulated? That would put the investor into more risks. And you say you already have high rollers that placed more than $1.5M bets.. how is that possible if you are new casino? And you already have 10k users waiting for the casino to go online, but I thought you said the casino is already only (with high rollers) and it is 100% operational?

Not a good idea to be honest. Why not get a license and start with smaller bankroll?
On top of everything, they didn't mention a single benefit that the investors would get by investing in their bankroll. All they have mentioned are the numbers and how their platform is doing or has been doing. Why would an investor be interested in investing if he doesn't see anything coming back to him in return for his money that he has invested?

Also, $500k doesn't sound less for a new casino that is already operational and doesn't require anything else apart from managing the bankroll or running marketing campaigns. If the casino gets big over time, so will the revenues generated, so I don't understand why they need to do this investment thing and also calling it a fundraiser which basically means to raise funds for a cause with no returns to the donators.
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Having a free KYC casino was more of a clickbait to investors. Of course this will matter in the early stages but when you're getting into the business deeper, you would be required by the international law considering you're not just catering Costa Rican players.
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Hi we are thinking on starting a fundraise to increase our current bankroll we have $500k but we know our site is going to get huge fast because we are going to be 100% KYC free and available worldwide.

At this moment we have a list of high rollers $1.5M+ and a list of 10K users who are waiting for the site to get out.

The site is 100% ready (we are just finishing some details with the marketing material) and we have about 500 players without a single ad our official announcement.

Last month the site made $28k profit in just pure random players who got to the site and we have regulars customers who spend on average $1k per week.

We want to raise at least $400k, you can go to the site now and create an account and test everything to see the site is 100% operational

Let me know what you think about this idea we have.
I doubt anyone would want to "invest" in a new casino. And I am assuming it is KYC free casino because it isn't licensed and regulated? That would put the investor into more risks. And you say you already have high rollers that placed more than $1.5M bets.. how is that possible if you are new casino? And you already have 10k users waiting for the casino to go online, but I thought you said the casino is already only (with high rollers) and it is 100% operational?

Not a good idea to be honest. Why not get a license and start with smaller bankroll?
legendary
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I know that if your website getting some overwhelming users then you have to capitalize what you've got and I think that your capital is manageable as a good start. You're guaranteeing that everything is set with your players but, don't be assured that they'll be there bringing and generating you some profits. Some stats and expectations don't go as what we're thinking to happen. Anyway, manage your resources and from there you'll be able to maximize the usage of it and if you think that you still need to have some budget for marketing, it seems that you've said you've got a lot of players ready for you and that's some enticing thoughts that might get investors attention. At this point, you may try to have an experimental acceptance if you think that increasing your bankroll is really necessary.
If you do saw that your site is really that getting that users or revenue and having that $20+ per month net revenue then i would say that it is really that doing well.Making out some compounding profits and making it more big but if you do really want nor like to be fastening up a little bit then adding up 400k more wouldnt really be that a bad idea. If we are an owner then it is really that depending on our own plans on
how to handle up the business.If you do see that it would really be something that gives out benefit into or you do see that it do somewhat fasten up your
profitability and generation of income then go ahead and proceed.
Yes, that's a proof that they're doing well and knowing that it has come from random players. Meaning that those are just like passing-by players and managed to enjoy their casino. And how much more with the combination of all of those regular and loyal players that they have plus the passing-by strangers and customers that they've got. I think that they do have a lot of resouce but I also understand the thought and reason why OP is asking about this. Doing an expansion for better growth of the business really needs to have that balance and secured money for all the potential expenses that will be needed upon it's being done. Overall, if they'll able to capitalize and use what they've got now and do a slow growth and expansion, I think they can manage it because it seems that they're trying to chase the rush based on his explanation.
When it comes to financial decisions then it would really be not good on relying into communities voice and feedbacks on what you should gonna do as a business owner and talking about numbers or money that would be involved. As an owner then of course you do know on what you should gonna do and also you've seen that you are really that doing well considering that you are really that making profits or revenue
which it would really be just understandable that you should continue on what you are doing.Its true that having expansion is always been that recommended specially if you do see
your business is growing which it is really just a normal approach or act that should really be done.

it is also not advisable to ask potential investors over the net, much better if you will pitch this to your own circle of friends or colleagues that you personally know of. from the tone of the OP, they are confident that they will earn good money from this. so why not get their additional financial requirements to the people around them who are known to be investors?
 i don't think they will get high rollers from this forum to seriously invest on their site using their hundreds of thousands of dollars. the OP is saying they are 100% ready, so why not test the site? they have good amount to start with. don't go big if you can't afford yet.
hero member
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I know that if your website getting some overwhelming users then you have to capitalize what you've got and I think that your capital is manageable as a good start. You're guaranteeing that everything is set with your players but, don't be assured that they'll be there bringing and generating you some profits. Some stats and expectations don't go as what we're thinking to happen. Anyway, manage your resources and from there you'll be able to maximize the usage of it and if you think that you still need to have some budget for marketing, it seems that you've said you've got a lot of players ready for you and that's some enticing thoughts that might get investors attention. At this point, you may try to have an experimental acceptance if you think that increasing your bankroll is really necessary.
If you do saw that your site is really that getting that users or revenue and having that $20+ per month net revenue then i would say that it is really that doing well.Making out some compounding profits and making it more big but if you do really want nor like to be fastening up a little bit then adding up 400k more wouldnt really be that a bad idea. If we are an owner then it is really that depending on our own plans on
how to handle up the business.If you do see that it would really be something that gives out benefit into or you do see that it do somewhat fasten up your
profitability and generation of income then go ahead and proceed.
Yes, that's a proof that they're doing well and knowing that it has come from random players. Meaning that those are just like passing-by players and managed to enjoy their casino. And how much more with the combination of all of those regular and loyal players that they have plus the passing-by strangers and customers that they've got. I think that they do have a lot of resouce but I also understand the thought and reason why OP is asking about this. Doing an expansion for better growth of the business really needs to have that balance and secured money for all the potential expenses that will be needed upon it's being done. Overall, if they'll able to capitalize and use what they've got now and do a slow growth and expansion, I think they can manage it because it seems that they're trying to chase the rush based on his explanation.
When it comes to financial decisions then it would really be not good on relying into communities voice and feedbacks on what you should gonna do as a business owner and talking about numbers or money that would be involved. As an owner then of course you do know on what you should gonna do and also you've seen that you are really that doing well considering that you are really that making profits or revenue
which it would really be just understandable that you should continue on what you are doing.Its true that having expansion is always been that recommended specially if you do see
your business is growing which it is really just a normal approach or act that should really be done.
hero member
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I know that if your website getting some overwhelming users then you have to capitalize what you've got and I think that your capital is manageable as a good start. You're guaranteeing that everything is set with your players but, don't be assured that they'll be there bringing and generating you some profits. Some stats and expectations don't go as what we're thinking to happen. Anyway, manage your resources and from there you'll be able to maximize the usage of it and if you think that you still need to have some budget for marketing, it seems that you've said you've got a lot of players ready for you and that's some enticing thoughts that might get investors attention. At this point, you may try to have an experimental acceptance if you think that increasing your bankroll is really necessary.
If you do saw that your site is really that getting that users or revenue and having that $20+ per month net revenue then i would say that it is really that doing well.Making out some compounding profits and making it more big but if you do really want nor like to be fastening up a little bit then adding up 400k more wouldnt really be that a bad idea. If we are an owner then it is really that depending on our own plans on
how to handle up the business.If you do see that it would really be something that gives out benefit into or you do see that it do somewhat fasten up your
profitability and generation of income then go ahead and proceed.
Yes, that's a proof that they're doing well and knowing that it has come from random players. Meaning that those are just like passing-by players and managed to enjoy their casino. And how much more with the combination of all of those regular and loyal players that they have plus the passing-by strangers and customers that they've got. I think that they do have a lot of resouce but I also understand the thought and reason why OP is asking about this. Doing an expansion for better growth of the business really needs to have that balance and secured money for all the potential expenses that will be needed upon it's being done. Overall, if they'll able to capitalize and use what they've got now and do a slow growth and expansion, I think they can manage it because it seems that they're trying to chase the rush based on his explanation.
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