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Quote from: wxa7115 on December 27, 2021, 01:51:47 PM

Quote from: Tellek Garing on December 21, 2021, 03:16:00 PM

You need to read about the reputation of sites before you deposit on them because there are scam sites all around that offer various promos and bonuses and are willing to risk the trust for any deposits. Avoid them

What happens is that a great deal of the people do not want to do this as in their minds that sounds like work and the last thing they want to do when they want to have some fun is to work for it.

And while this makes sense I think that a small research of half an hour is more than enough to help you to quickly find if a casino is a scam and if they treat their clients right, and in this case this casino has many accusations in place that are easy to find and that would have saved the one conducting their due diligence of losing their money to that casino.

If you are already here in this forum like the OP, he should have checked this gambling board first.
Because just by browsing this board, you will already get the idea who's who in the gambling business.
Also, don't forget to check the trust summary of their respective admin or reps and you will know if they have existing issues.
A quick search will save your funds from being screwed. But unfortunately, in some cases, they will only search and ask once they were already screwed and lost.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on December 21, 2021, 03:16:00 PM

You need to read about the reputation of sites before you deposit on them because there are scam sites all around that offer various promos and bonuses and are willing to risk the trust for any deposits. Avoid them

What happens is that a great deal of the people do not want to do this as in their minds that sounds like work and the last thing they want to do when they want to have some fun is to work for it.

And while this makes sense I think that a small research of half an hour is more than enough to help you to quickly find if a casino is a scam and if they treat their clients right, and in this case this casino has many accusations in place that are easy to find and that would have saved the one conducting their due diligence of losing their money to that casino.

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Quote from: StLucifer on December 22, 2021, 12:19:26 PM

I had also faced the same experience and is very much disappointed with this. betflip.io is a scam website on which you can face just loss and nothing else. I would suggest everyone not make any deposit on this site and report it in the scam accusation section. So it may help many other users to avoid this scam website.

It is funny how you guys "after" getting scammed start looking for reviews and information about the casino. You could have done that before and saved yourself from getting scammed. If you google the name of the casino along with the term "scam", you will see how many scam accusation posts against them pops on the top result. Click one of those and you will instantly know they are here just to scam people. Why even play on a casino that has no reputation at all? Why not choose a casino that has been around for years?

I am also a little surprised by people who say they are online gamblers but continue to be trapped in scam casinos, nowadays information about everything can be very easy for us to get on the internet, but for some reason they are lazy to find information about that casinos, before they do deposited and ended up getting stuck with a scam, I think as a forum member who has had a lot of discussions about various things, it's better if we don't be too rash in believing something that is related to money, it's a good idea for us to do some research first before deciding to join or not included in choosing a casino to gamble.
Can't we use the experience of many members who have been cheated by the casino as a lesson so that we don't experience it?

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Quote from: StLucifer on December 22, 2021, 12:19:26 PM

I had also faced the same experience and is very much disappointed with this. betflip.io is a scam website on which you can face just loss and nothing else. I would suggest everyone not make any deposit on this site and report it in the scam accusation section. So it may help many other users to avoid this scam website.

It is funny how you guys "after" getting scammed start looking for reviews and information about the casino. You could have done that before and saved yourself from getting scammed. If you google the name of the casino along with the term "scam", you will see how many scam accusation posts against them pops on the top result. Click one of those and you will instantly know they are here just to scam people. Why even play on a casino that has no reputation at all? Why not choose a casino that has been around for years?

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I guess op didn't even update the thread about the situation or issue. I skimmed the pages in this thread and I didn't see a new reply from op if it's solved or not. Op can start a scam accusation if there is a strong evidence against betflip but my guess is that op didn't have evidence to start the scam accusation thread to prove his/her claim about betflip not paying op. Let's wait for op to come back, maybe I am wrong that op didn't have evidence but let's see what happens next.

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Quote from: altini63 on December 03, 2021, 03:05:49 AM

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make the mistake to try them out...

I'm sorry about what you've experienced but to be honest, I've been hearing lots of negative things and scam accusations about the site. I just didn't expect that it's still scamming lots of players until now. I hope the whole gambling community would be aware of this and be skeptical about depositing in shady casino sites.

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Quote from: qory on December 24, 2021, 04:19:49 AM

It's sad to see sites like this still scam people. Also read only negative stories about this site. I hope you get your money back, but the odds aren't really good. Why not play at more reputable sites that are also represented on the forum? There are plenty of sites that do act fairly. For the moment we will have to wait for the op of Betflip but I don't give you much of a chance.

There are those newbies that have saw it through ads that says about the bonus deposit or any promo that they got in.

It's really a problem to the newbies that are going to the unknown casinos instead of those that are reputable. Some new casinos are also good but it's that they've went to a wrong new casino that don't stand with standards and doesn't really have a goal of becoming a reputable one.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 23, 2021, 06:45:40 AM

Yes they are usually newbie or small time gambler that hunt gambling site in advertising in internet in which made them lured to try this shitty scam gambling site.
though the sad part here is that they happen to win Big and the scam happens as they are being denied to withdraw their funds . attitude of a legit scammer .

It's sad to see sites like this still scam people. Also read only negative stories about this site. I hope you get your money back, but the odds aren't really good. Why not play at more reputable sites that are also represented on the forum? There are plenty of sites that do act fairly. For the moment we will have to wait for the op of Betflip but I don't give you much of a chance.

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Quote from: Wiwo on December 14, 2021, 01:52:49 AM

Betflip have already existing scam accusations against them already, it is more difficult to contact them on the forum since they don't have an admin on this forum and no official thread of betflip on the forum. So other members of the forum should take note and avoid betflip for now.

Maybe OP is not a regular of this forum and just found out about Bitcointalk.org after being scammed so he has no idea how this scam site manage their victims funds.
if is a shame for every gambling operating in crypto that even manage to take smaller amount , why not target bigger players?
this only shows how cheap their company and has no future at all.

That's how will work shitty online gambling casinos, they are selectively scamming their player.
I don't see a big player in a non-reputed gambling casino and I have doubt that they are small-time gamblers who are only gambling in a small amount. The sad thing is that casino did not exist here on the forum so there is nothing to tag as a scammer or just warn gamblers. If that OP was here for a long time, maybe OP did not choose that gambling casino.

For now, this thread only brings awareness.

Yes they are usually newbie or small time gambler that hunt gambling site in advertising in internet in which made them lured to try this shitty scam gambling site.
though the sad part here is that they happen to win Big and the scam happens as they are being denied to withdraw their funds . attitude of a legit scammer .

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 17, 2021, 05:34:31 AM

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Quote from: mak013 on December 16, 2021, 03:40:31 AM

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

That's what they do most of the time.

They'll seek counsel to the forum members when something bad has already happened. And when they do, it's already too late for them to recover the amount because there's no way to get it anymore.

It is possible that they think that maybe someone will hear their cries for help and the casino will change mind in their case.
Or maybe they just want to complain in public and in that way reduce their frustration a bit.
It is also possible that they really have the intent to warn others about the dishonesty of the casino.
Or they themselves are scammers and have been caught doing it and write accusations in anger.

There are some threads that have been helpful to solve their issue when they've posted in here. But they're also conversational and doesn't just leave what they've left.

All that you've mentioned are possible.

To give that exposure and attention so that they'll get some help from the casino that they complain and at the same time, warn the others to avoid it.

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I had also faced the same experience and is very much disappointed with this. betflip.io is a scam website on which you can face just loss and nothing else. I would suggest everyone not make any deposit on this site and report it in the scam accusation section. So it may help many other users to avoid this scam website.

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Quote from: Tellek Garing on December 21, 2021, 03:16:00 PM

You need to read about the reputation of sites before you deposit on them because there are scam sites all around that offer various promos and bonuses and are willing to risk the trust for any deposits. Avoid them

Unfortunately, this is the most common mistake made by Newbies. It is enough just a few minutes to find at least a few scam accussations and a terrible opinion on Trustpilot:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betflip-bonus-scam-5304959
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betflipio-scam-alert-5318821
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betflipio-5356229

This should be enough not to risk deposit.

I am afraid that this deposit will never be recovered. It seems this lesson was quite expensive.

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You need to read about the reputation of sites before you deposit on them because there are scam sites all around that offer various promos and bonuses and are willing to risk the trust for any deposits. Avoid them

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Quote from: mak013 on December 16, 2021, 03:40:31 AM

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

It is simple really, in my experience most people have the belief that nothing bad is ever going to happen to them, basically they think that even if bad things like being scammed happens to people those things happen to other people and not to them.

Basically they live their lives without worrying about the future, so when they finally realize they were scammed they complain about how unfair it is, and in a way I understand it, but just as you say they should have made the effort to make their research and they would have avoided the scam from the very beginning.

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OP have you already managed to get your problem resolved? I went to see your post history and from what I see luck is not on your side, there are other casinos that have not paid you, this is what I would call great bad luck, so for this case at least they will be able to pay you or still are you getting nothing?

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 18, 2021, 12:03:05 AM

Casinos say that gambling should be just fun and a way to have a good time. The truth is, most of the gambling is based on a desire to make money easily and quickly, and oscourse greed. It is clear to me that many people, even if they are aware of the risks, will still play in casinos with a bad reputation just because they have big bonuses.

With great risk but with irresistible consequences. That may be true, but given the bad reputation it wouldn't take too long to think that in other casinos we could find a more comfortable place to bet with a very good casino reputation. Apart from the convenience of a gambler, it is quite diverse, but to put forward a big bonus by withdrawing the bonus will not make the gambler feel satisfied at all.

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Quote from: altini63 on December 03, 2021, 03:05:49 AM

I wanted to try out these guys but sent by mistake a substantial deposit (10mbtc instead of 1 mbtc) . Waited for 3 weeks to expire the bonus which had ridiculous rollover requirements. Then I was asked to rollover my deposit amount 1 time with odds of 2 or more which I completed. After that I placed a withdrawal request on the same amount as the deposit. They keep rejecting it. On live chat I told them that I did not want any winnings (5 mbtc), just my deposit amount. First they tell me to place the withdrawal again but then reject it 5 minutes later... Please do not make my mistake to try them out...

There are so many resources out there that can be used to find out if sites are a scam, that there's little excuse except greed for falling for them these days and you might just have to take this as a lesson for the future. I am wondering whether it really was an accident, or whether you were trying to take maximum advantage of any special bonus offer that they use to entice new victims. Sorry to hear about your loss, but you really need to be more careful and exact with the amount you are depositing, especially when such large sums of money are involved - it's just sad that these fake casinos can lure so many people in for such a long time, it'd be nice if the domain registrar seized their domain for fraud but it might require a court order.

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Quote from: jossiel on December 17, 2021, 04:27:14 AM

Quote from: mak013 on December 16, 2021, 03:40:31 AM

I still can`t understand why newbies creating threads just after they lost their money? Why don`t they do any research? If they create thread here, it means that they know about this board, so why don`t use it? Spend just 20 minutes and save money, this is really easy. They are losing much more time trying to return their money and mostly they willn`t return it, so doing research helps to save not only the money but the time too.

That's what they do most of the time.

They'll seek counsel to the forum members when something bad has already happened. And when they do, it's already too late for them to recover the amount because there's no way to get it anymore.

Do you want 1000s of newbies to flood the forum with questions about every casino that are out there? Let them come to the forum with their complaints, because the more complaints and scam accusations they post.... the better for the next newbie that wants to try out these scam casinos. Wink

Just make sure when you post under the scam accusation section that you put something like this in the title ==> Betflip.io is a scam. (So when newbies Google the name + scam .... they might hit that thread) Wink

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Quote from: pieppiep on December 17, 2021, 08:25:37 AM

Quote from: mak013 on December 17, 2021, 01:42:01 AM

But if they are not newbies, why they don`t do any research? And, if they know about this board - why most of them have newbie rating? Ok, may be they are just reading without registration, but why they don`t read other threads?
It is possible if this is a part of strategy - getting welcome and rating bonuses but even in such way - it is not a problem to see fast-made scam.

That is why I doubt they are newbies because we already warn them from this forum. Even if they are silent readers who do not reply or discuss many things here, they can still read many topics about cheating, scamming, or hacking on this forum. And from that topic, they should know why they must not use too big money for gambling, even in the casino with great reputations. No guarantee that the casino can process its withdrawal.

That`s what i`m talking about. Newbies don`t read comments in the threads? Ok, it is possible, but we decided that aren`t newbies. And if they aren`t newbies, so why they are cheated so much times? If they are so lazy to make any research, why they spend time telling how they lost their money? This is really not a problem to understand fast-made scam website, even without reading this forum. It is impossible to be so silly over and over again.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on December 18, 2021, 12:03:05 AM

Casinos say that gambling should be just fun and a way to have a good time. The truth is, most of the gambling is based on a desire to make money easily and quickly, and oscourse greed. It is clear to me that many people, even if they are aware of the risks, will still play in casinos with a bad reputation just because they have big bonuses.

Suppose they realize the risk but still play in the casino, whether it is a bad reputation casino or a good reputation casino. In that case, they should prepare for losing money because the lost money will always be there.
The risk will become bigger if they have any intention to make money easily and quickly because that can lead them to use more money after they lose all of the money.
Once they forget what reason they are gambling, they will not take too long to see they will lose the next money they deposit.
It is our responsibility to manage the money we use to gamble and hopefully, we can remember that gambling is part of the fun.

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