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we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing
The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.

We often see newcomers complaining about some casinos here on the forum... The conclusion is simple, some social networks are way more popular than btctalk, but people from there come here to complain when they get into some trouble, so this forum is relevant in the crypto gambling space! Visibility and presence are important for every casino, how will they achieve that is on the team... but for sure every casino is spending money on marketing, more or less!

Social media reaches a very large audience. Promoting the platform on social media is really the right thing to do from a marketing point of view. The audience on btctalk is specific and small, I think the casino can afford to invest a small portion of their resources in forum marketing.

Casino owners will not go on bitcointalk if they see a few numbers of users registered here and I think this is the best place they can promote their businesses because they can assure that they are targeting the real people who has interest with cryptocurrency and crypto gambling. Compare to social media where that option is so large and you need to do extra effort to seek people who's interested with gambling.
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we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing
The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.

We often see newcomers complaining about some casinos here on the forum... The conclusion is simple, some social networks are way more popular than btctalk, but people from there come here to complain when they get into some trouble, so this forum is relevant in the crypto gambling space! Visibility and presence are important for every casino, how will they achieve that is on the team... but for sure every casino is spending money on marketing, more or less!

Social media reaches a very large audience. Promoting the platform on social media is really the right thing to do from a marketing point of view. The audience on btctalk is specific and small, I think the casino can afford to invest a small portion of their resources in forum marketing.
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I hope the price of BFG will go up after the community vote. But I think these measures will not lead to big changes. There is already too much circulated supply of token on the crypto market.

If we check the chart for the last few days, we will see that the BFG token has already grown by about 8-10%, and the daily trading volumes have even grown up to $420k. Obviously, the current BFG price is because of the community vote, but it doesn't look impressive at all. I note that the Betfury team mentioned in the article that increasing the BFG mining price should have a positive impact on BFG price, but it seems to me that many users expect something more rather than a 10% increase.

We wrote about the increase in value, as the team cannot guarantee a price increase Wink Nevertheless, we see a positive growth trend, which makes us all happy.
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we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing

The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.

Thank you for your feedback! We read all reviews and comments. It is also very important for us how the community is developing here. We also plan to run signature campaigns here from time to time. Stay tuned  Wink
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particularly me when I see that a token or coin is listed on Binance that is synonymous with guaranteed success, Binance is listed as one of the best level 1A exchanges out there and with more confidence worldwide, and every token that enters like this can be considered as potential

people need to be very careful with this thought that Binance is only listing good altcoins, if you look closely at all altcoins that are on binance you will see that there are a lot of shitcoins that were listed a few years or months with prices that went up 10X but today they are down 20X because there is no demand, as they are illusory projects that in the long term had nothing to offer and people made a mistake with them, today such projects are 20X fallen. I will avoid enumerating names of such projects in that thread

But I just don’t share all the enthusiasm from Binance.  Moreover, I think that listing on Binance will only harm the tokens, and not increase its price by 5-10 times, as our colleagues suggest here. Smiley  Do not forget that Binance is a rather crafty trading platform, which has appropriated the title that it is generally number 1 in the crypto world.  But this is a scam from a cunning executive who everyone in the crypto world knows as CZ.   Smiley
Moreover, I have recently seen the fading of interest in Binance from many players in the crypto market.  So devs shouldn't deal with Binance. 
But this is my personal opinion, I do not pretend to be the ultimate truth.

I agree with you on the part that all projects that are going to be listed on binance can even go up in price in the first few days thanks to the pump and dump scheme, but after a few days, weeks and months the altcoin starts to drop a lot and that makes a lot people lose money I could even show many examples of altcoins that went on binance and dropped a lot, and it's unbelievable that many people kept talking about such projects on the telegram channel, I saw so many people saying they invested a lot of money in project X because it was already listed at biance, and see that the project rose from 0.70$ to 3$ and in a few days it dropped to 1$ and today it is at 0.46$. I ask myself: how are the people who bought on 3$? they have a big loss

Well, this is something that if they are right, when a coin is listed on BInance, it usually increases and after a few weeks it can drop in price, it is something that normally happens, but from the point of view that Binance gives the most security and confidence to investors and market speculators is something that must be taken into account, if a coin lives on Pump and Dump it is already a matter of what develops in the market, the Betfury team has the power to allow these compartments of the currency according to the liquidity that they inject, this is something that also depends on the community and the amount of marketing that they decide to include, we cannot forget that the market is a consequence of the price of BTC.

I trust more in a coin that is in Binance than in another exchange, the fact that it goes up or down, is already a matter of supply and demand.


we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing

The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.

While what you say is true, a few things should be taken into account:
1.- Not everyone has a forum culture, that is something that has an influence,
2.-Most people are dedicated to reviewing social networks,
3.-Social networks will never reveal information as specific as we do here, strategies, among others,
4.-the traffic that is generated in bitcointalk for a casino is authentic and legitimate, not in social networks, you can find many cheaters.

´I think that these are some of the things to take into account for which a forum and in this case bitcointalk is the best option for a casino, the casinos that still do not know the power of bitcointalk is a total pity, they do not know what they are lost.
legendary
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Well, the truth is that I have never used the BSC chain, but I imagine that it is very fast...

Well, I think once you try it you will be hooked! As I said, for people who are active in crypto and often move funds from one place to another BSC is like a revelation! Betfury was one of the first that adopted the BSC chain, and others are joining, less hassle, cheap and fast, do we need anything more?

we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing
The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.

We often see newcomers complaining about some casinos here on the forum... The conclusion is simple, some social networks are way more popular than btctalk, but people from there come here to complain when they get into some trouble, so this forum is relevant in the crypto gambling space! Visibility and presence are important for every casino, how will they achieve that is on the team... but for sure every casino is spending money on marketing, more or less!
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we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing

The thing is you can only say that because you and everyone here spend there time posting here that’s why you can conclude that forum is the best for promotion in your perspective as well for me but the casino owner doesn’t spend much time here so they don’t know how exactly good the forum unless they can see the result by themselves while the social media is proven working as a good source for marketing promotion by many companies. This is the reason why casino owner is very hard to convince to choose here instead the social media.
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Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.
There are many who are in charge of doing great marketing, and for this type of casino it does not cost them much to allocate money to those expenses that are an investment, but I do not know, many of us agree with what you say, but casino owners can think differently.

It is better to spend good money on everything with a very strong marketing campaign that results are seen in a short time than to do things to save a few dollars and the community is not satisfied, the casino has to see that.
The knowledge of a gambling site creator and the knowledge of a layman are not the same. They always think something more advanced than what we think. They try to choose the best platforms for marketing.  And they don't treat this forum as the only good marketing platform. and they spend money on the better place
we all know that many platforms out there are more suitable for promoting gambling sites, but let's see on the bitcointalk forum there are many active people and the hallmark of the bitcointalk forum is that it often displays gambling site advertisements, in my personal opinion it is very feasible if they prioritize the forum bitcointalk as their main marketing
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Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.
There are many who are in charge of doing great marketing, and for this type of casino it does not cost them much to allocate money to those expenses that are an investment, but I do not know, many of us agree with what you say, but casino owners can think differently.

It is better to spend good money on everything with a very strong marketing campaign that results are seen in a short time than to do things to save a few dollars and the community is not satisfied, the casino has to see that.
The knowledge of a gambling site creator and the knowledge of a layman are not the same. They always think something more advanced than what we think. They try to choose the best platforms for marketing.  And they don't treat this forum as the only good marketing platform. and they spend money on the better place
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Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.
There are many who are in charge of doing great marketing, and for this type of casino it does not cost them much to allocate money to those expenses that are an investment, but I do not know, many of us agree with what you say, but casino owners can think differently.

It is better to spend good money on everything with a very strong marketing campaign that results are seen in a short time than to do things to save a few dollars and the community is not satisfied, the casino has to see that.
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Using the bankroll of a casino that should be normally there to support any winners, and basically a guarantee of sorts that you could play here, for marketing or any other thing to grow is not really a great idea. I also do not think that casinos should be doing it themselves at all, it sounds like a lot of work and with so much they have to deal with, I do not think that it would be a smart way to handle. Best thing is to focus on what you are doing and leave the marketing to an agency of sort, that way that agency would be able to make you more famous while you focus on the casino part of the deal. Not a bad idea at all.
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Getting a lot of customers to use the casino will be the most complicated and difficult part every day because of the high competition that this online casino market is facing every day, every day new casinos are appearing and in my opinion this market is becoming saturated, and another thing is that BFG is not listed on many exchanges which means that it is not yet known what the real price will be, when an altcoin is listed on many exchanges we can see its real price
We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.
I would say that as a casino you should have some fiat currency or stablecoins at least in your hands anyway. If you don't, then there needs to be a situation where you need to fix that asap. I personally believe that the best thing to do here would be making sure that we do not end up with a bad result, it is not the greatest thing ever to have no stablecoins, but if casino has it then that's a great way to distribute.

What can be done is free bets, do that with good amount of money to a lot of people and they are going to come in here and gamble, if they do that then we are going to end up with a big profit as well. That's the key to success for a casino, pay them with real money, not a token you just created.
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We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.


Those casino failed with this kind of feature are those who has insufficient funds to continue the operation with minimal profit. This is the reason why big casino company don’t want token because they are backed already by private investors and having there token will just make there business more complicated because they need to reward those token holders in exchange for there investment in tokens.

Only few casino manage to survive on this business and some of them choose to exit after getting funds on initial token sale rather than continuing the casino with fixed monthly expenses without assurance that they will get more customers.
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In my opinion, it's not about marketing, They must be focused on what they were developed. If they were gambling, just focused on that, so if a token, just focused on that. It's very difficult to develop both especially lack of human sources and capability, even more, if 1 person takes care of tokens and gambling together at 1 time, except if the gambling site is already popular and has many registered people, it should be can be done simultaneously if the token is also used for payment.

Betfury is already a stable casino and there token has a consistent market volume so there’s nothing big needed to improve since they already overcome the initial phased which involves a lot of development. They are now in the stage on selling there product in the public which is there casino and tokens. You are right that they need to focus on one goal and it should be the casino itself because the value of the token depends on the casino profitability and popularity. The more user use the casino means more token buyer will be converted.

Getting a lot of customers to use the casino will be the most complicated and difficult part every day because of the high competition that this online casino market is facing every day, every day new casinos are appearing and in my opinion this market is becoming saturated, and another thing is that BFG is not listed on many exchanges which means that it is not yet known what the real price will be, when an altcoin is listed on many exchanges we can see its real price


We've seen many casinos got fail because sell both together, something must be sacrificed between them. but, as I know, several casinos do it together with success, like giving free the token for purposes try the casino, but of course, they will make dump a price but besides that, the casino will be crowded. If can't do that, choose one.
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Low volume exchanges are a way to die actually. Because it means that in the long run you are going to be upset with the results. Low volume equals to low liquidity, and low liquidity means more manipulation. So, someone with a bit of money could come in and destroy the whole token.

We wouldn't want that, it would be smarter to just pick a big one and go with that, or at the very least, stay with the swaps like pancake so that you would have a lot more people focusing it on just one place. That way it would be hard to manipulate it, not impossible but at the very least they would have to go against the full power of betfury community and that’s something they rather wouldn't do.

In somehow it's true but we can't remove the fact that whales are whales, they can still do things that they will be wanting but I like your point, it would be more pressure to them if they will do it against the full power of the community, they can't just outrun the influence of real investors and supporters who are willing to play against them.

As long as the team is doing their part in terms of keeping the ecosystem alive and they are doing business for the gamblers, the chance
remain positive for BFG.
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There is no benefit from listing on small exchanges. As an example, the BFG token is already traded on smaller centralized exchanges such as hotbit, cointiger, and coinsbit. The problem is that listing on these exchanges turned out to be absolutely useless because there is minimal activity and no liquidity. However, even if the BFG is someday added to one of the top exchanges, it won't guarantee a huge volume. I mean, the developers' actions are also crucial since it depends first of all on them whether there will be an increased demand for the token or not.
I couldn't agree more with you, if low volume exchanges are what you are looking for, it will be a total failure, and it would be a shame because many years ago a project that was only one currency failed for these simple reasons:

1.-They did not put the currency in an Exchange 1A.
2.-They did not pay attention to the community.

That was enough for all the investors to not support their project anymore, they left, they made a big Dump and took the coin from 20USD to almost 2USD and currently it is less than 1usd, it was something really sad, I hope and I hope you can listen to the community and they can try to put the token in a good exchange, I think the casino has a way to do it, they cannot say NO to success, and for me so far the casino has been very successful and they have done things well, of course until now, I think it's time to jump into something much better.
Low volume exchanges are a way to die actually. Because it means that in the long run you are going to be upset with the results. Low volume equals to low liquidity, and low liquidity means more manipulation. So, someone with a bit of money could come in and destroy the whole token.

We wouldn't want that, it would be smarter to just pick a big one and go with that, or at the very least, stay with the swaps like pancake so that you would have a lot more people focusing it on just one place. That way it would be hard to manipulate it, not impossible but at the very least they would have to go against the full power of betfury community and that’s something they rather wouldn't do.
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I don't fully agree. What is the real benefit of getting listed on small exchanges with a very low volume? If you have a token that you want to get listed, you always need to aim high and try to get listed on the places with a high amount of volume.

There is no benefit from listing on small exchanges. As an example, the BFG token is already traded on smaller centralized exchanges such as hotbit, cointiger, and coinsbit. The problem is that listing on these exchanges turned out to be absolutely useless because there is minimal activity and no liquidity. However, even if the BFG is someday added to one of the top exchanges, it won't guarantee a huge volume. I mean, the developers' actions are also crucial since it depends first of all on them whether there will be an increased demand for the token or not.
I couldn't agree more with you, if low volume exchanges are what you are looking for, it will be a total failure, and it would be a shame because many years ago a project that was only one currency failed for these simple reasons:

1.-They did not put the currency in an Exchange 1A.
2.-They did not pay attention to the community.

That was enough for all the investors to not support their project anymore, they left, they made a big Dump and took the coin from 20USD to almost 2USD and currently it is less than 1usd, it was something really sad, I hope and I hope you can listen to the community and they can try to put the token in a good exchange, I think the casino has a way to do it, they cannot say NO to success, and for me so far the casino has been very successful and they have done things well, of course until now, I think it's time to jump into something much better.

Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

I always choose the slow withdrawal as I don't mind if it arrives in 2h or 24h. But since they introduced the BSC chain to withdraw BTC and ETH, I always use this. Fees are a lot lower and the transactions go a lot faster, so it is a win/win!

I also always use slow withdrawal when I move BTC! I don't mind waiting... if I wish faster I simply go with BSC! Tron was the great alternative... but when the BSC chain appeared it was even better! I always point out how "fast and cheap" is important for people who really like to gamble (of course, not only for that...) and move funds from casinos to wallets, or between casinos! I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...



Well, the truth is that I have never used the BSC chain, but I imagine that it is very fast, recently I used the normal chain of the Bitcoin network and the transfer lasted 4 hours, which seemed a bit slow to me, I am not used to it lasting so much, but really when I use the ERC-20 network it is because I really need to do something urgently, because it seems to me that the fees are very high, and currently they are not so high, but about 1 year ago, year and means that I needed to make a transfer of ERC-20 to Binance, that was a very exaggerated fee, I did not find a way to do it with less money, I did the same way, but I try to avoid that ERC-20 chain, the Betfury tokens or any currency that you have in Betfury, I consider that it is the normal rate that they should charge, they cannot assume such a high fee.
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I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...

I agree with you, and I think most other players also don't use ETH and erc-20 tokens for gambling. The problem is that the fee in the ETH network is too unpredictable, given that it might be either 5 gwei or 1000+ gwei throughout the day. By the way, I just now noticed that Betfury sets 0.005 ETH(~$9) as the ETH withdrawal fee, while the withdrawal fee for erc-20 tokens is $3.2. As for me, this is a strange decision by the Betfury team as the withdrawal fee for ETH is clearly overstated, while the withdrawal fee for erc-20 tokens is understated.
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Not recommended for people who are in rush since for sure it will take 24 hours or more before you can receive the amount you transact and what worse is sometimes you feel stress and seek for accelerators which you believe to help your transaction to fasten up. Better to use always what network recommends since this is more the safest and fastest way for us to have smooth transaction on timely manner.

I always choose the slow withdrawal as I don't mind if it arrives in 2h or 24h. But since they introduced the BSC chain to withdraw BTC and ETH, I always use this. Fees are a lot lower and the transactions go a lot faster, so it is a win/win!

I also always use slow withdrawal when I move BTC! I don't mind waiting... if I wish faster I simply go with BSC! Tron was the great alternative... but when the BSC chain appeared it was even better! I always point out how "fast and cheap" is important for people who really like to gamble (of course, not only for that...) and move funds from casinos to wallets, or between casinos! I decided to not use Ethereum, and all ETH tokens, ever again because of the high fees from the last years...

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I hope the price of BFG will go up after the community vote. But I think these measures will not lead to big changes. There is already too much circulated supply of token on the crypto market.

If we check the chart for the last few days, we will see that the BFG token has already grown by about 8-10%, and the daily trading volumes have even grown up to $420k. Obviously, the current BFG price is because of the community vote, but it doesn't look impressive at all. I note that the Betfury team mentioned in the article that increasing the BFG mining price should have a positive impact on BFG price, but it seems to me that many users expect something more rather than a 10% increase.
But today trading volume decreased by more than 30% it's unfortunately that good news regarding a token will only have a temporary impact and everything will return to normal, with trading volume still low BFG will have a hard time rising unless there is a group that wants to pump it but what is certain is that this only benefits the group
I think it would be nice if Betfury raised the rewards for staking. Betfury can also create events with increased staking rewards for a short period of time for new users. For example 320% APR for two weeks.

Why increase the staking rewards for the new users only? If they want to increase the staking rewards, the priority should be given to those who already have BFG tokens and are staking them already. The staking rewards should be equal for everyone.
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I wrote that staking rewards should be increased for all. And for newbies to make promo to attract their attention. Staking rewards will be the same for everyone after the end of the promo.
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