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legendary
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.


i don't think this is the whitepaper but it shows the original distribution and promises he made.
http://web.archive.org/web/20171127111238/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.0

i would love to see this scammer prosecuted.


Yes it is not the whitepaper but there is already lots of information backed up and saved to use in any possible criminal case against serial scammer Dean Nolan.

There are many like you that would be so happy to see serial scammer Dean Nolan prosecuted in a Court of law.
Whitepaper you say? Then check this out; https://betking.io/whitepaper.pdf


Thank you for the link but that is the post ICO whitepaper for the EOS BKT token scam that serial scammer Dean Nolan cooked up.

I recently received information that there was no whitepaper.pdf for the 2017 ICO but instead a series of promises that serial scammer Dean Nolan made.

That makes sense as to why nobody provided one Smiley
hero member
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.


i don't think this is the whitepaper but it shows the original distribution and promises he made.
http://web.archive.org/web/20171127111238/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.0

i would love to see this scammer prosecuted.


Yes it is not the whitepaper but there is already lots of information backed up and saved to use in any possible criminal case against serial scammer Dean Nolan.

There are many like you that would be so happy to see serial scammer Dean Nolan prosecuted in a Court of law.
Whitepaper you say? Then check this out; https://betking.io/whitepaper.pdf

I cant see the old one yet this WP is on that EOS thing they have recently.
legendary
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.


i don't think this is the whitepaper but it shows the original distribution and promises he made.
http://web.archive.org/web/20171127111238/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.0

i would love to see this scammer prosecuted.


Yes it is not the whitepaper but there is already lots of information backed up and saved to use in any possible criminal case against serial scammer Dean Nolan.

There are many like you that would be so happy to see serial scammer Dean Nolan prosecuted in a Court of law.
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Spear the bees
Is that you game-protect?
A typical approach for people who are losing an argument is to redirect the topic and attention to something completely irrelevant from what is being discussed.

Blanket statements, along with ad-hominem attacks, are great at disrupting discourse. The only problem is: there has to be useful discourse in the first place to disrupt.
A turncoat affair against virtue aware; ignorance or mal-intent, with great enough disarray the two are of no difference.
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.
i don't think this is the whitepaper but it shows the original distribution and promises he made.
http://web.archive.org/web/20171127111238/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.0
It's absolutely not the whitepaper but it has information anyway. Can't find the original whitepaper lol or there was no actual whitepaper, I don't really remember.

But I love how @JollyGood fight against scammers. You are helping this forum so much, and protect people from loss.
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.


i don't think this is the whitepaper but it shows the original distribution and promises he made.
http://web.archive.org/web/20171127111238/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2053407.0

i would love to see this scammer prosecuted.
legendary
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Serial scammer Dean Nolan is using the Crash game on his scam betking website without paying the 2 BTC licence fee to the software owner.

Recently the betking logged-in user numbers has dropped to around just 10 so hopefully more and more people are getting to learn about the betking scam and its serial scammer owner Dean Nolan.

It is better for people to use Stake, Primedice, Bustabit or Bustadice than to use the betking scam website.
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.

Is that you game-protect?
legendary
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If anybody has the original 2017 whitepaper for the ICO please let me know because it will make up a crucial part of the evidence against scammer Dean Nolan if the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff) decide to prosecute.
legendary
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Your BKB tokens allow you to have access to information that scammer Dean Nolan will not provide to other investors and non-investors
I can send you a few tokens so you can ask Dean for all kinds of information.


 Grin

That scammer Dean Nolan would prefer his betking website house of cards to burn and crash down all around but he would never give me any information because he knows I am building a case against him to hand the the UK Police (Scotland Sheriff)
legendary
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Your BKB tokens allow you to have access to information that scammer Dean Nolan will not provide to other investors and non-investors
I can send you a few tokens so you can ask Dean for all kinds of information.
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63 million Bkt mined already the halving is near!
Proof?

Are you the mining director or how do you know? Cheesy
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I think the loophole is going to be that I didn't buy the tokens. But if that's the excuse, it means apparently some tokens are more equal than others.
I'm just speculating here, and would love to hear the real reason.

I've heard in private from who have bought tokens and lost money, but it's not my place to name them (especially if they are angling to have Dean to privately honor the original terms of their sale).

But I do find it amusing the audacity of saying "no one lost money" after selling millions of dollars worth of tokens that went on to lose ~99% of their value and the majority (supposedly) were bought back at considerably under their sale price (i.e. when it was profitable for Dean to buy them back).
Lol, just as expected, there it is:
(note Loyce didn't even buy tokens in the ico, he got them from bounty)


Your BKB tokens allow you to have access to information that scammer Dean Nolan will not provide to other investors and non-investors

Your tokens are not "lesser than other tokens" just because you received them in bounty.

You should ask that scammer Dean Nolan about how much bankroll remains and how much of the 50% of the ICO funds that were supposed to be used for "marketing, promotions, seo, design, development, server costs and legal"

And of course the main question about how many of the tokens bought in the buy-back with the 600 BTC actually belonged to investors and hoe many belonged to scammer Dean Nolan
legendary
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I think the loophole is going to be that I didn't buy the tokens. But if that's the excuse, it means apparently some tokens are more equal than others.
I'm just speculating here, and would love to hear the real reason.

I've heard in private from who have bought tokens and lost money, but it's not my place to name them (especially if they are angling to have Dean to privately honor the original terms of their sale).

But I do find it amusing the audacity of saying "no one lost money" after selling millions of dollars worth of tokens that went on to lose ~99% of their value and the majority (supposedly) were bought back at considerably under their sale price (i.e. when it was profitable for Dean to buy them back).
Lol, just as expected, there it is:
(note Loyce didn't even buy tokens in the ico, he got them from bounty)
legendary
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I think the loophole is going to be that I didn't buy the tokens. But if that's the excuse, it means apparently some tokens are more equal than others.
I'm just speculating here, and would love to hear the real reason.

The claims are contradicting each other, if 600 Bitcoin was given back to token holders, a large share if the ico revenue was kept, and the remaining tokens are close to worthless, someone must have lost a lot of money!

He can use loopholes all he likes, he clearly stated all token holders can ask about the state of the funds related to the ICO regardless if they were purchased or not. You have a right to ask him any question as much as anybody else and since you were there since the ICO days you have a right to know should you wish. In this case all BKB token holders are entitled by his own statements to know anything they like as he claims to have shared expenditure information with all token BKB holders though it would not apply to BKT token holders.

Why on earth would he use 600 BTC of the bankroll funds to buy-back BKB tokens? That was a pathetic management decision and I would like to know how many of those BKB were his personal tokens because what cannot be discounted from the options is that he took that step to line his own pockets. I would not put it past him by looking at his history.

And since that step was taken completely out of line with the ICO promises, why did he do it instead of using the other option which was to use the other 50% of ICO funds for "other" things? Why choose the bankroll to funds buy-backs instead of the 50% that was to be used for "marketing, promotions, SEO, design, development, server costs and legal"? Why choose one of the other in that order when there was no need to do anything except let business hopefully pick up and see profits increase? Why choose to decrease the bankroll to a fraction of that 50% that it should be when the site would collapse without a bankroll?

in previous posts he mentioned he bought back between 70% and 90% of BKB tokens but just yesterday he mentioned for the first time he used 600 BTC of the bankroll to do it. That is either pure mismanagement and incompetence on his part or it is possibly a calculated step in order to sell off his own BKB tokens in the process to line his own pockets.

Personally I would cite that he is a compulsive liar and a highly immature person judging by the tantrums he throws BUT there is no doubt about it in my mind he certainly made a lot of money off the back of the 2017 ICO and at least from some of the 50% that was supposed to be used for "marketing, promotions, SEO, design, development, server costs and legal". Add to that the temptation for a greedy individual such as him to see that massive bankroll and not be tempted to take some? I would not put it past him.

So why are the current BKT tokens and the previous BKB tokens almost worthless? Where have the ICO funds gone?

You as a token holder from the ICO days have a right to ask him. Please do and tell us the answers he gives you.
legendary
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I think the loophole is going to be that I didn't buy the tokens. But if that's the excuse, it means apparently some tokens are more equal than others.
I'm just speculating here, and would love to hear the real reason.

I've heard in private from who have bought tokens and lost money, but it's not my place to name them (especially if they are angling to have Dean to privately honor the original terms of their sale).

But I do find it amusing the audacity of saying "no one lost money" after selling millions of dollars worth of tokens that went on to lose ~99% of their value and the majority (supposedly) were bought back at considerably under their sale price (i.e. when it was profitable for Dean to buy them back).

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The claims are contradicting each other, if 600 Bitcoin was given back to token holders, a large share if the ico revenue was kept, and the remaining tokens are close to worthless, someone must have lost a lot of money!

Yeah, none of it really makes sense. I wouldn't be surprised that if after canceling the buy-backs, Dean was the one buying large quantities at super-discounted prices on his own exchange. Then as he accumulates large amounts of BKB he can say he bought lots back, but only had to pay a fraction of the "face value". And then he can blame investors for panic selling ("not my fault if they sold for really cheap!")
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I think the loophole is going to be that I didn't buy the tokens. But if that's the excuse, it means apparently some tokens are more equal than others.
I'm just speculating here, and would love to hear the real reason.

The claims are contradicting each other, if 600 Bitcoin was given back to token holders, a large share if the ico revenue was kept, and the remaining tokens are close to worthless, someone must have lost a lot of money!
legendary
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Here's some real comedy:

Even better. Find me a single person who has lost money by buying BKB in the ICO.
One single person, that didn't decide to sell for less than the last buy back price since that would be their own choice.

There is not a single BKB holder who has lost money through me or BetKing


According to one estimate:
No, he told me by email a week ago that I can sell tokens at BetKing's exchange. The 1% is based on my math.


Or do you have a loophole  "They only lost bitcoin! Bitcoin is not money!"   Roll Eyes
legendary
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Go and get me a list of all the people that think I scammed them with that decision and the amount of tokens they hold.
I think you will find it would be a small list. I know that it can't possibly be even 10-20% of all the tokens that were ever in circulation and I would wager that the majority of those don't think it's a scam
Why would it be okay to screw over 10-20% of token holders? If it's such a small amount, why didn't you continue the buy backs?
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the rest probably didn't understand the old token or the new one.
It's pretty easy to understand that I can only exchange my BKB tokens for something that's worth only 1%.
The owner/operator of betking did not reply to you here. Did he reply in a PM?
No, he told me by email a week ago that I can sell tokens at BetKing's exchange. The 1% is based on my math.



You know, as well as I know your issue, that I couldn't sell btc when it was at the top so don't act like I profited millions. No bank would give me an account.
The btc remained as btc up to 20k and down to 3k, except when paying our expenses.
I'd like to highlight this part, it surprises me. Without doing anything special, I can sell 200 BTC and withdraw 100,000 euro per day. And that's just at a local exchange. I haven't actually tested this (because I'm 200 BTC short), but that's not the point.
My point is: if I add a few more reputable international exchanges, it shouldn't be a problem to sell a few million worth of Bitcoin. Of course the bank would ask questions, but assuming everything is legit, that shouldn't be a problem.

Yes the part you highlight is completely correct. I would never have imagined "No bank would give me an account" as an excuse. His excuses are so wrong on so many fronts.
legendary
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Go and get me a list of all the people that think I scammed them with that decision and the amount of tokens they hold.
I think you will find it would be a small list. I know that it can't possibly be even 10-20% of all the tokens that were ever in circulation and I would wager that the majority of those don't think it's a scam
Why would it be okay to screw over 10-20% of token holders? If it's such a small amount, why didn't you continue the buy backs?
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the rest probably didn't understand the old token or the new one.
It's pretty easy to understand that I can only exchange my BKB tokens for something that's worth only 1%.
The owner/operator of betking did not reply to you here. Did he reply in a PM?
No, he told me by email a week ago that I can sell tokens at BetKing's exchange. The 1% is based on my math.



You know, as well as I know your issue, that I couldn't sell btc when it was at the top so don't act like I profited millions. No bank would give me an account.
The btc remained as btc up to 20k and down to 3k, except when paying our expenses.
I'd like to highlight this part, it surprises me. Without doing anything special, I can sell 200 BTC and withdraw 100,000 euro per day. And that's just at a local exchange. I haven't actually tested this (because I'm 200 BTC short), but that's not the point.
My point is: if I add a few more reputable international exchanges, it shouldn't be a problem to sell a few million worth of Bitcoin. Of course the bank would ask questions, but assuming everything is legit, that shouldn't be a problem.
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