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Topic: BetKing.io - 20% Rakeback Christmas Bonus - Most trusted Bitcoin Dice site - page 88. (Read 194705 times)

legendary
Activity: 1463
Merit: 1886
How can that be? With a 25% commission for the house, this will remove 25% from the profit of the investors and it will add 25% to there losses. Now, while an investor has a profit, how can a 25% commission remove all the profits + more, so that his total investment goes below his original investment?

Either I am missing something huge in how investment works, either there really is a problem somewhere.

The commission charged isn't on profits, but rather on the amount wagered. i.e. Even if a gambler breaks even, investors will be a loss. Investors will only make a net profit when gamblers lose > 0.25% of what they wager (which over the long run they should, as the house edge is 4x that)
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.


Hi,

I recently invested 0.1 BTC. Up until now, I have a positive profit, but the total investment is less than 0.1 BTC. Is anybody aware of a problem related to this?

You paid more commission than you profited.

How can that be? With a 25% commission for the house, this will remove 25% from the profit of the investors and it will add 25% to there losses. Now, while an investor has a profit, how can a 25% commission remove all the profits + more, so that his total investment goes below his original investment?

Either I am missing something huge in how investment works, either there really is a problem somewhere.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Or you could see here https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd and notice proof of how much is invested which facilitates such a high max payout.

Be careful trusting blockchain.info. They don't verify the signatures on transactions:

https://blockchain.info/tx/56aa898ee159c421678901bb517d4fb8fd76e9fd944c580fada25768f0c3860a



Yeah I just seen the alleged Satoshi transactions on Reddit.

I would recommend no one uses Blockchain.info now either

You can check the PRC cold wallet here instead https://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1333
Or you could see here https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd and notice proof of how much is invested which facilitates such a high max payout.

Be careful trusting blockchain.info. They don't verify the signatures on transactions:

https://blockchain.info/tx/56aa898ee159c421678901bb517d4fb8fd76e9fd944c580fada25768f0c3860a

legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
At the end of this week 10% of the total investment will be automatically divested.
The funds will be added back to your balance and you can withdraw.

No one can be diluted now since no one can invest or top up so it's just a way to reduce the total amount invested.

hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.

Surprised to hear that. Not sure if its good or bad but its good in a way that investors won't keep getting diluted in a bigger and bigger bankroll. So in the future if I was to divest, can I not invest again ?

You won't be able to invest in future if you divest no.


Those reasons are understandable but what if a big investor wishes to cash out for a small time and reinvest later on ? I suppose if its an investor with more than 1000 btc then reinvest will probably have to be opened.

AFAIK you can just divest a small part of your investment, that way you dont need to divest all and invest again later on
sr. member
Activity: 441
Merit: 251
Dean I have sent you an offer regarding the sale of pocketrocketscasino. Check your pm
legendary
Activity: 954
Merit: 1000
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.

Surprised to hear that. Not sure if its good or bad but its good in a way that investors won't keep getting diluted in a bigger and bigger bankroll. So in the future if I was to divest, can I not invest again ?

You won't be able to invest in future if you divest no.


Those reasons are understandable but what if a big investor wishes to cash out for a small time and reinvest later on ? I suppose if its an investor with more than 1000 btc then reinvest will probably have to be opened.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
If the max payout is so high, this website is either too good or unfair Wink

I'll lean towards too good.

Maybe you could add a faucet.

Or you could see here https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd and notice proof of how much is invested which facilitates such a high max payout.

Faucet will not be re-enabled any time soon.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.

Surprised to hear that. Not sure if its good or bad but its good in a way that investors won't keep getting diluted in a bigger and bigger bankroll. So in the future if I was to divest, can I not invest again ?

You won't be able to invest in future if you divest no.

There's a few reasons I limited the investment:
1) I don't want to hold on to 5k Bitcoin of other peoples money, as mentioned before.
2) I want PRC to bankroll 100% and have no investors but I think it's best to do it in smaller steps so as not to have drastic changes.
3) The biggest concern for potential buyers is "Will the site be as popular without investment", I can get data on that if I bankroll myself.

PRC has NOT been sold.
I would NEVER (and I've had offers) sell the site and leave the investors money in. That was well documented in the sale ad on the other thread.

If I had sold or made any major changes you would hear about it from me and everyone would have the chance to withdraw before I handed it over.
sr. member
Activity: 420
Merit: 250
If the max payout is so high, this website is either too good or unfair Wink

I'll lean towards too good.

Maybe you could add a faucet.
legendary
Activity: 954
Merit: 1000
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.

Surprised to hear that. Not sure if its good or bad but its good in a way that investors won't keep getting diluted in a bigger and bigger bankroll. So in the future if I was to divest, can I not invest again ?
member
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
Vires in numeris.
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.


Hi,

I recently invested 0.1 BTC. Up until now, I have a positive profit, but the total investment is less than 0.1 BTC. Is anybody aware of a problem related to this?

You paid more commission than you profited.
newbie
Activity: 30
Merit: 0
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.


Hi,

I recently invested 0.1 BTC. Up until now, I have a positive profit, but the total investment is less than 0.1 BTC. Is anybody aware of a problem related to this?

legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1016
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.


This is weird, is this is disabled for old account also?Just wondering what is the reason for this? have you found a buyer already so youare not accepting it anymore incase the deal is done then you can easily divest them all ?
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Just an update.
I removed the invest button. There will now be no new investment or top ups of existing possible.
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Site back up.
Sorry for the delay
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
How much of the 3000 btc profit was from substantially large bets though?

Honestly it was probably most likely from large bets. The casinos and dice usually lose small amounts to many gamblers but they make large amounts from a few people that make up the difference. Some people bet a little, make a little and then quit.

Why are you guessing the answer after Dean has given you a rough breakdown a few posts up there?


How much of the 3000 btc profit was from substantially large bets though?

Not as much as you may think.

Although there has been some really big losses, 1300, 633, 451 recently, most of that was profit the player had won, IIRC the total loss from those 3 bets combined was 330, the rest was profit the player had won.

There has been a lot of large losses in the range of 20-60 Bitcoin. Again though there's wins and profit to be taken in to account.

So the two largest losses would be 330 and 215 Bitcoin.

Total profit of bets < 10 Bitcoin is around 1500.

hero member
Activity: 700
Merit: 500
Someone got angry...

How much did he lose?
legendary
Activity: 954
Merit: 1000
I can't open a site (with italian ip address) but if is to sell, all invedtor have withdraw the investment ? Site restart with balance 0 ?

I am not sure what you exactly mean by that , but if you are worried about investments then they will still be there. The site is just experiencing DDoS attacks for now probably and once its finished the site will resume with the operation. A DDos doesn't restart the server it just doesn't let anyone connect to the site for the time being.
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