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I really hope this guy comes back, it's always so exciting to check the highroller list for new bets.
legendary
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Actually by that time during the bets I am sure there were some people accusing him to be dooglus Tongue (till he lost I guess :X)

There were people saying it was me doing it for publicity even after he lost.

They don't seem to understand how the bankroll is funded, and that such a publicity stunt would have cost me around 2000 BTC. It would have been better in that case to have "pulled a dadice" and flooded the whole space with ugly ads.
legendary
Activity: 882
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Does this guy even lose at all?
If not, he must be investigated as it is fishy that he don't even lose at all although winning chance is very high.

He lost 451 the other day.

Ouch...


legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
Some big wins today...



Total profit: BTC620

BTC620 total profit now PRC going to be bankrupted very soon and we will remember this nice casino in our words but i am still wonder it looking some kind of advertising technique by big bets because it is hard for anyone to gamble like that with his coins on high risk on lose, it maybe real crazy gambler at PRC who is risking like that.

When some people win there will be other people lose too so the losers will cover the winner pot plus they have so much bankroll so I dont think it will bankrupt at this moment. Just believe it that he already lose a lot from PRC already he just wait to make some comeback  Grin
Guys I'm telling you this guy is showing signs of being hufflepuff xD.

Does this guy even lose at all?
If not, he must be investigated as it is fishy that he don't even lose at all although winning chance is very high.
legendary
Activity: 882
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Ooh 30, looks too many, don't you think it would create clutter ?

The site would get a small redesign on homepage and main dice page so that things are easier to navigate between.
sr. member
Activity: 577
Merit: 283
Guys I'm telling you this guy is showing signs of being hufflepuff xD.

Unfortunately this is no sign of it being hufflepuff. Huffle got enough BTC to sustain his life I guess and from what we have seen , it seems like just another normal player playing with alot of BTC but with much more safety precautions by betting on the small multiplier

P.S : thoughts this is clear that he is the legendary gambler mech

I'm seriously torn between investing before he loses and staying out because it might be an inside job..

It is highly unlikely that this is an inside job because if what you meant is that the operator of PRC is playing a hand on this as well , then I doubt it is. Theoretically this is possible however it will be much better for an operator to "leech" the investor funds in a smaller amount to make it looks less suspicious ( this is too suspicious so I doubt its him )

Hufflepuff used an exploit that would be specific to Prime Dice. I don't know if Stunna followed up with how it was done or not yet.

All the major dice sites use their own software so there's no shared code with hidden exploits like you may find in some of the off the shelf scripts you see people selling.

It is a difficult thing to prove that a site operator is not betting to either steal or boost stats ect, we don't yet have a provably fair system for investors on dice site, I think logically though it is obviously not an inside job.

If any site operator wanted to cheat investors then they would do it with smaller bets over the long run (or run away when the bankroll got to a certain size like a few of the most famous dice scams).

That would attract less attention than what greystroke (and his alt accounts) are currently bringing to the site. That kind of betting and winning could scare current investors and so they would divest and it's less likely any new investors would deposit funds. So the site would not last long.

If you look at the images also, he lost 451 Bitcoin the other day. Which was pretty much all of his profit before he started again with around 300 Bitcoin.

PRC has been open over 2 years and there's been many times I could have just taken a 2-3k BTC bankroll and closed.

There's 2 good stats that could hint that a site owner was cheating investors.
Expected value and cold wallet funds. Up until around a week ago the expected value was 100% which if I was cheating small amounts over the long run it wouldn't be.
Also the cold wallet still has 90% of investor funds in it so there's no hint of being insolvent https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd

I recommend checking NLNicos excellent site for those stats http://dicesites.com/
Unfortunately right now the EV is at 61% but that is only with the past few days massive wins. If he were to lose one of his bets it would go close to 90-100% again.

I have just looked at partnering with Softswiss too to add over 30 new casino games within the next few weeks which I think is another good indicator that I plan on PRC being open for a long time in future.
Ooh 30, looks too many, don't you think it would create clutter ?
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
Guys I'm telling you this guy is showing signs of being hufflepuff xD.

Unfortunately this is no sign of it being hufflepuff. Huffle got enough BTC to sustain his life I guess and from what we have seen , it seems like just another normal player playing with alot of BTC but with much more safety precautions by betting on the small multiplier

P.S : thoughts this is clear that he is the legendary gambler mech

I'm seriously torn between investing before he loses and staying out because it might be an inside job..

It is highly unlikely that this is an inside job because if what you meant is that the operator of PRC is playing a hand on this as well , then I doubt it is. Theoretically this is possible however it will be much better for an operator to "leech" the investor funds in a smaller amount to make it looks less suspicious ( this is too suspicious so I doubt its him )

Hufflepuff used an exploit that would be specific to Prime Dice. I don't know if Stunna followed up with how it was done or not yet.

All the major dice sites use their own software so there's no shared code with hidden exploits like you may find in some of the off the shelf scripts you see people selling.

It is a difficult thing to prove that a site operator is not betting to either steal or boost stats ect, we don't yet have a provably fair system for investors on dice site, I think logically though it is obviously not an inside job.

If any site operator wanted to cheat investors then they would do it with smaller bets over the long run (or run away when the bankroll got to a certain size like a few of the most famous dice scams).

That would attract less attention than what greystroke (and his alt accounts) are currently bringing to the site. That kind of betting and winning could scare current investors and so they would divest and it's less likely any new investors would deposit funds. So the site would not last long.

If you look at the images also, he lost 451 Bitcoin the other day. Which was pretty much all of his profit before he started again with around 300 Bitcoin.

PRC has been open over 2 years and there's been many times I could have just taken a 2-3k BTC bankroll and closed.

There's 2 good stats that could hint that a site owner was cheating investors.
Expected value and cold wallet funds. Up until around a week ago the expected value was 100% which if I was cheating small amounts over the long run it wouldn't be.
Also the cold wallet still has 90% of investor funds in it so there's no hint of being insolvent https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd

I recommend checking NLNicos excellent site for those stats http://dicesites.com/
Unfortunately right now the EV is at 61% but that is only with the past few days massive wins. If he were to lose one of his bets it would go close to 90-100% again.

I have just looked at partnering with Softswiss too to add over 30 new casino games within the next few weeks which I think is another good indicator that I plan on PRC being open for a long time in future.
legendary
Activity: 2562
Merit: 1414
Guys I'm telling you this guy is showing signs of being hufflepuff xD.

Unfortunately this is no sign of it being hufflepuff. Huffle got enough BTC to sustain his life I guess and from what we have seen , it seems like just another normal player playing with alot of BTC but with much more safety precautions by betting on the small multiplier

P.S : thoughts this is clear that he is the legendary gambler mech

I'm seriously torn between investing before he loses and staying out because it might be an inside job..

It is highly unlikely that this is an inside job because if what you meant is that the operator of PRC is playing a hand on this as well , then I doubt it is. Theoretically this is possible however it will be much better for an operator to "leech" the investor funds in a smaller amount to make it looks less suspicious ( this is too suspicious so I doubt its him )

P.S : he would want it to be more suspicious if this is an inside job ( although to be honest , I dont think he did )
full member
Activity: 288
Merit: 113
Web dev for hire
Some big wins today...



Total profit: BTC620

BTC620 total profit now PRC going to be bankrupted very soon and we will remember this nice casino in our words but i am still wonder it looking some kind of advertising technique by big bets because it is hard for anyone to gamble like that with his coins on high risk on lose, it maybe real crazy gambler at PRC who is risking like that.

When some people win there will be other people lose too so the losers will cover the winner pot plus they have so much bankroll so I dont think it will bankrupt at this moment. Just believe it that he already lose a lot from PRC already he just wait to make some comeback  Grin
Guys I'm telling you this guy is showing signs of being hufflepuff xD.

I'm seriously torn between investing before he loses and staying out because it might be an inside job..
sr. member
Activity: 577
Merit: 283
Some big wins today...



Total profit: BTC620

BTC620 total profit now PRC going to be bankrupted very soon and we will remember this nice casino in our words but i am still wonder it looking some kind of advertising technique by big bets because it is hard for anyone to gamble like that with his coins on high risk on lose, it maybe real crazy gambler at PRC who is risking like that.

When some people win there will be other people lose too so the losers will cover the winner pot plus they have so much bankroll so I dont think it will bankrupt at this moment. Just believe it that he already lose a lot from PRC already he just wait to make some comeback  Grin
Guys I'm telling you this guy is showing signs of being hufflepuff xD.
legendary
Activity: 1834
Merit: 1008
Some big wins today...



Total profit: BTC620

BTC620 total profit now PRC going to be bankrupted very soon and we will remember this nice casino in our words but i am still wonder it looking some kind of advertising technique by big bets because it is hard for anyone to gamble like that with his coins on high risk on lose, it maybe real crazy gambler at PRC who is risking like that.

When some people win there will be other people lose too so the losers will cover the winner pot plus they have so much bankroll so I dont think it will bankrupt at this moment. Just believe it that he already lose a lot from PRC already he just wait to make some comeback  Grin
legendary
Activity: 1008
Merit: 1000
Some big wins today...



Total profit: BTC620

BTC620 total profit now PRC going to be bankrupted very soon and we will remember this nice casino in our words but i am still wonder it looking some kind of advertising technique by big bets because it is hard for anyone to gamble like that with his coins on high risk on lose, it maybe real crazy gambler at PRC who is risking like that.
sr. member
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Do you offer accounts the ability to ban themselves from betting so that one can invest without temptation?
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
Some big wins today...



Total profit: BTC620
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
I like my replies to be complete Smiley Tongue NP
sr. member
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siwakotisaurav, first of all you have to realize that PRC is an investor site, so if PRC is doing that it's not just faking stats but directly stealing huge amounts from the investors (much more serious.) But yes, in the end "provably fair" does not exist for investors and therefor the site owner could do this technically. Personally I would trust the owner not to do this since he has been around for 2+ years, is holding 3,620 investor coins (see cold wallet) and seems to be very trustworthy to me. Rationally, I would also imagine a site owner would steal in a much more discreet way. But in theory it's possible for sure.



That being said, the big gambler himself have claimed to be mechs/fuckit. He is a legendary gambler that bet with the same style on Just-Dice for even bigger amounts: see here. He started with 1767 BTC at 92% for 134 BTC wins. And his last bet was a massive 7016 BTC bet at 96% that he lost. His reaction after he lost? "ah well". Actually by that time during the bets I am sure there were some people accusing him to be dooglus Tongue (till he lost I guess :X) Anyway, I don't think there is real proof that this guy is mechs, but he claimed it himself and his betstyle + way of chatting, does seem like it.
Geez, thanks for this man. Can't believe you took such time to answer this question.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1295
DiceSites.com owner
siwakotisaurav, first of all you have to realize that PRC is an investor site, so if PRC is doing that it's not just faking stats but directly stealing huge amounts from the investors (much more serious.) But yes, in the end "provably fair" does not exist for investors and therefor the site owner could do this technically. Personally I would trust the owner not to do this since he has been around for 2+ years, is holding 3,620 investor coins (see cold wallet) and seems to be very trustworthy to me. Rationally, I would also imagine a site owner would steal in a much more discreet way. But in theory it's possible for sure.



That being said, the big gambler himself have claimed to be mechs/fuckit. He is a legendary gambler that bet with the same style on Just-Dice for even bigger amounts: see here. He started with 1767 BTC at 92% for 134 BTC wins. And his last bet was a massive 7016 BTC bet at 96% that he lost. His reaction after he lost? "ah well". (full log) Actually by that time during the bets I am sure there were some people accusing him to be dooglus Tongue (till he lost I guess :X) Anyway, I don't think there is real proof that this guy is mechs, but he claimed it himself and his betstyle + way of chatting, does seem like it.
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Relatively small BTC176 bets this time (Roll Eyes):



Total profit: BTC236.4


edit: here we go....



Total profit: BTC331
Hmm why do people gamble such high amount for dust percents like 9%. Would be better if he won 10btc at 100x 0.1btc. Just saying. Roll Eyes
Well people like the low odds,because they win o most everytime,yes it kills if it hits you,but for them its much better then martingaling on loss so they can try and win the odd of 100x...its better if they put 100 btc on odd 1.1x to win 10 in total 110 btc then to put 0.1 btc on odd of 100x to win 10 btc,because in 100x there are a lot more losses witch drives people crazy!!

really true better than expecting much luck simply expect not to be unluky Wink
Yes its just that it isnt an unlucky day,also if you lose you still need to comedown,if you go into rage mode you will bust all the amount of money you have,this guy as i see is perfectly calm,he can continue winning like this for a long time,he will reach 1000 bitcoins in no time.
Hmm, a thought popped in my mind. Not saying that PRC is cheating or anything but how can someone verify if they are not doing it just for publicity and fake stats but it is an actual person(not from PRC) betting that huge amount of money. Once again I repeat, I'm not accusing PRC of any cheating on their behalf, but how can one verify that they are not. Just curious seeing place such huge(maybe they are only huge for me) bets for dust amounts.

I dont agree with your statement about the fake high rolling amount through these screen shots, i think that is original wagered amount by an high rollers when PRC has valid cold storage and ability to pay the such high amount over 200btc for a single than any person try to get nice profit from them with high bankroll.
First of all thats not my screenshot. Secondly, I meant couldn't it be PRC doing fake bets just for publicity or fake stats for investors? Just a curious question, don't take it too seriously. Grin

anything is possible but so is dean just running off with the bankroll which is a lil easier and more profitable. you just have to have trust/confidence in the system.
sr. member
Activity: 577
Merit: 283
Relatively small BTC176 bets this time (Roll Eyes):



Total profit: BTC236.4


edit: here we go....



Total profit: BTC331
Hmm why do people gamble such high amount for dust percents like 9%. Would be better if he won 10btc at 100x 0.1btc. Just saying. Roll Eyes
Well people like the low odds,because they win o most everytime,yes it kills if it hits you,but for them its much better then martingaling on loss so they can try and win the odd of 100x...its better if they put 100 btc on odd 1.1x to win 10 in total 110 btc then to put 0.1 btc on odd of 100x to win 10 btc,because in 100x there are a lot more losses witch drives people crazy!!

really true better than expecting much luck simply expect not to be unluky Wink
Yes its just that it isnt an unlucky day,also if you lose you still need to comedown,if you go into rage mode you will bust all the amount of money you have,this guy as i see is perfectly calm,he can continue winning like this for a long time,he will reach 1000 bitcoins in no time.
Hmm, a thought popped in my mind. Not saying that PRC is cheating or anything but how can someone verify if they are not doing it just for publicity and fake stats but it is an actual person(not from PRC) betting that huge amount of money. Once again I repeat, I'm not accusing PRC of any cheating on their behalf, but how can one verify that they are not. Just curious seeing place such huge(maybe they are only huge for me) bets for dust amounts.

I dont agree with your statement about the fake high rolling amount through these screen shots, i think that is original wagered amount by an high rollers when PRC has valid cold storage and ability to pay the such high amount over 200btc for a single than any person try to get nice profit from them with high bankroll.
First of all thats not my screenshot. Secondly, I meant couldn't it be PRC doing fake bets just for publicity or fake stats for investors? Just a curious question, don't take it too seriously. Grin
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1005
I didn't watch this type of gambling with so much big amounts.It is amazing to see this guy how he is taking risk to take back the loosing Bitcoins.There are people who can afford to play with so much amount.It is no wonder to see the this player with hundred of bitcoins.
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