Topic: BetKing.io Relaunch - page 2. (Read 1637 times)

Is there actually an update to Betking.io, is the site still active with Bitcointalk players? I read very little about it on the forum. They have been around in the gambling industry for quite some time. If you Google Dean Nolan, a lot of hits will come up. Pretty familiar name. Last post is not substantiated with evidence. Just write that it is a scam is not as a proof.

Can you prove it ? 

If you haven`t noticed - it was a year ago. I think that it does not matter what and how he answered that time. Much more interesting the moment with refuse to pay winning to @popcorngolf. We need some more information, but this is one more moment to be more attentive with this casino.

Why are you harsh against some questions? I know how it feels like when when you are consecutively being asked a refuted questions over and over again, but I don't think you need to be aggressive on question matters. Try as much to politely respond to what you feel like answering and I mean no harm here. Enjoy your welcome here!

have you send ticket ? if does and yet nothing happens  then best to Post the complete details here with proofs as OP is now active again and he might answer you directly.
as they are trying to regain their reputation then try to put complete details also here.
this may help them also about their relaunching and getting back more players from this forum .

I won about 2.6 bnb in the last promotion top wagared and after over one week of playing , betking refuse to pay me the winning , I lose over 1000 USD in other site because the bad morale because of betking always , I ask for refund and enable my withdrawal of winning if the site and team is legit , my account username is adrarbilal

Email [email protected] for more info. You will need to deposit your BKB to be eligible for refunds.

What will be the refund price for each token? And who is eligible for refund? I purchase your token upon listing on exchange after your ICO few years ago, I still have it on my wallet. I'm interested to know if you will refund my token since it loss a lot of value and there's no exchange that accepts it. Good thing I notice your thread while browsing gambling thread. Hoping for your positive response coz I spend a couple of Bitcoin just to buy BKB tokens on exchange.

I think that in such an interesting situation, when it is necessary to revive from the ashes the trust of users that has already been lost once, one cannot do without a guarantor, an escrow?
Why don't you write whether there is an opportunity to attract such a surety or guarantor that a large number of players would really trust?
Yes, you just probably won't find such a guarantor because, like everyone else, he does not trust you too much, given the negative experience in the past, especially since we are talking about large amounts of about $2M.
Write if it is possible to find a guarantor why you do not mark this in your posts?

you are suppose to outrightly tell send users emails that hey i am paying u now and they will respond, not just ask a user to email you. i will be reluctant to email you. cons like you have the potential to scam and re scam

Actually unfortunately no it is not the place.

These claims started by JollyGood in 2018, before we had a hack, before we had ran out of ICO funds.
Since then I have posted in this very forum 100's of times defending and answering all questions and accusations and all that happened was him and his crew and the trolls just started twisting my words, burying my posts, ignoring anything I write, accuse anyone who said anything about getting a refund of being a sock puppet of mine or even an alt.

It's literally impossible to defend against because this shit hole forum allows for this even though it's clearly illegal what has happened to me here now. I'll deal with that in future.

What you have to ask yourself is where are all the hundreds of people I allegedly scammed for apparently millions of $?
Why are these people not posting? Where is the proof from actual investors that I stole funds? There are none. (one guy who got free tokens doesn't count and yes there might be the odd person who wasn't up to date on what was going on, but surely you would expect many people posting about huge losses like that no?

The fact is that almost all investors DO receive emails or chat with me on Telegram and know the plans for trying to refund. There's no need to post anything in this forum since the investors are not here.


 

I think this is quite the opposite. Isn't it ideal for you or your company to solve this on the forum? Then you show your willingness to solve things and you don't hide your own behind proven situations.
This is therefore an excellent opportunity to clean up your house and resolve unsolved cases for victims.

I asked you to email me many times before with your username and you wouldn't do it as you were scared I would ban you for some weird reason. Look where that's got you now.
How am I meant to resolve anything with you if you won't work with me?

Email me. This forum isn't where I resolve these things. Since it's full of trolls and idiots and you are not willing to show me proof you are even an investor.



And how can I "claim"? There's proof on the forum. Work with me instead of fighting against it and you will have a much easier time.

I emailed you and never saw any of my initial investment of 1.5BTC/62626.94092BKB returned. How can you claim to have returned a lot of the originally invested funds?

I was going to delete that with your stupid false accusation.

However you do have a good point.

I have spoke to investors about a 3rd party holding funds, or themselves or a multi sig setup with multiple investors holding the keys.

All 9 investors asked at the time voted for me to hold the funds.

However, I have been thinking of allowing investors to hold funds themselves potentially.

It would mean any proof of funds page for the bankroll would have to list multiple addresses and each investor would need to sign a message proving the funds were being used on BetKing.

The problem though is I now need to trust the investor to send funds when a player wins. They could basically freeroll me and other investors.

It also means needing to ask multiple people to send their % share of that players winnings which could be a lot of hassle if it was to get funds off > 10 people to pay one person.

I could do it where they have to deposit 10-20% of their investment to reduce the back and forth but it still has problems.

Would you accept a third party escrow to hold your bankroll? Otherwise, what is the guarantee that you wont run away with the fund again?

The way old investors will be compensated is as follows.

There will be a public bankroll that anyone can invest new money in to, btc, eth, ltc etc.
We already have some small investors who will invest this way.

The new bankroll investors will be charged commission on any profit, e.g. 25%.

So if players lost 10 BTC (over some period) that means investors would have a profit of 10 BTC.

The house would then charge 2.5 btc (25%) commission on this.

This 2.5 btc will be used to refund old investor losses.

Then each time there is more profit and more commission that commission will also be used for refunds.


Now there is a priority system here.

We will first be using the commission to refund the investors who lost funds they invested in the bankroll when we were hacked. (most of these people also had BKB)

The commission will be split proportionately, so if you had 10% of the lost bankroll funds you would get 10% of the commission.

Once the bankroll funds have been refunded fully we will do the same process but now for BKB token holders where the commission will essentially buy back old BKB.

The price will be $0.09128 per BKB. Meaning all token holders would be in profit after having all their tokens bought back.

Again this will be split proportionately between accounts with BKB on site. (either deposited from own wallet or imported from old account).

This will obviously take some time for everyone to be refunded in full, we're talking over $2mm in total.

We need to attract old players and new ones (mainly not on this forum considering the false claims of scams we have here).

There's a way for old investors or token holders to be paid back faster though.

If you had a bankroll loss or hold tokens and choose to invest in the new bankroll (new funds deposited) then commission you would be charged will go 100% to refunding you.

So for example. If 2 investors were to be charged 0.1 btc commission but one of them had > 0.1 btc worth of tokens or old losses, they would get to keep the 0.1 btc and the other 0.1 would be used to refund everyone else who can't invest in the bankroll.

I think this is the fairest way and gives incentive for investors to invest even a small amount if they can. But it is not required at all.


Hope that clears things up. That's a long post and so if still any confusion let me know

How will you compensate those old investors that still stock and forcefully holding your BKB tokens until now? Will you give them bonus just like an airdrop or some bonus to cover there investment loss since most of us are feeling left behind after the hack and your announcement of bankruptcy.

This is my honest question and I'm still hoping to receive your honest reply.

All the red flags were left by people who did not invest, who did not lose funds and who didn't even play on the old site.

I am not looking to gain back the trust of these people and this forum won't be where we focus on getting players.


EDIT: If you are incapable of reading the original post and then post nonsense claims of scam with no evidence or just waffle on to boost your signature campaign posts you will be deleted. There's already a hate thread (which cencors me funnily enough) that you can post your incoherent ramblings in.

If they market there Casino outside in the forum provably they will get a players there but that's a lot of effort to do since even by here there's no user will promote them and give them a good feedback so in terms of marketing their site for sure they will spend more money just to get a traffic.

Here I doubt they will get players since they already tag as a bad site to try by the gamblers.