BetKing.io Relaunch (uncensored betking-scam thread)

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I agree entirely with you. I am surprised that anybody could or would oppose the flag, it does not make sense to me.

I echo your sentiments because why on earth would anybody oppose the flag instead of just opting to not support it especially from members that should know better keeping in mind all the evidence that has been presented to show the betking.io scam

In order to protect gullible investors from getting scammed this thread really should stay open because even though it would be impossible to save everybody just saving one person from becoming a victim would mean the thread has been successful.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on September 01, 2021, 04:22:05 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on August 31, 2021, 05:14:01 PM

I don't see any reason for you to oppose support for the flag.

The Flag wasn't created correctly.

As you yourself point out, the flag creator is not the one who created the thread. Therefore it can be locked without intervention by the flag creator. The OP of the thread you pointed me in the direction of has no flags listed, so no Flags supported.

Okay?

Deciding not to support the flag is one thing, but you're opposing support for it which only serves to give credibility to the scammer.

And besides, I don't see any issue with creating a flag that references a thread that you didn't create - there's no reason to believe Jollygood will lock the thread, and if he does the flag can be removed - we don't need another Betking scam thread and Jollygood creating another identical flag just seems redundant.

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Quote from: finist4x on September 02, 2021, 02:17:46 AM

Unfortunately, a lot of newbies don't read reviews. They often play on emotions. They fall for high-quality marketing that successfully converts emotions into initial deposits. Only the reaction of the regulators can help in such cases.

Most of them get faded away with some good bonus and deposit offers and and other redeemable coupons but in turn got scammed with fake casino and face withdrawal issues because they easily trust any casino without any proper investigation and reading reviews but it's the first thing you should do as newbie if you are not playing in any legit casinos of which the community is also not aware about.But we should always do some research because it's the safety of your funds only.

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Unfortunately, a lot of newbies don't read reviews. They often play on emotions. They fall for high-quality marketing that successfully converts emotions into initial deposits. Only the reaction of the regulators can help in such cases.

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Quote from: savetheFORUM on September 02, 2021, 01:58:35 AM

These are some of the worst terms and conditions I have seen at any casino.

7.3 In the instance that a deposit is unable to be verified by the Blockchain within a reasonable period, it will be considered fraud. All play and winnings associated with that deposit will be null and void. Your account will be temporarily closed and all costs incurred by BetKing Casino, including provider and platform fee retrieval, affiliate commissions, and BetKing administrative costs associated with these transactions will be noted on your account. A KYC is required to reopen a suspended or deactivated account. In the instance your account is reopened, all debts determined by BetKing Casino must be satisfied before you may play Games or make a withdrawal in the future

(source: https://betking.io/terms)

So if by mistake you make a deposit with small transaction fee, you are considered as a scammer.

This is ridiculous.How can a deposit be considered as fraud? Angry

You are giving them coins and they say "We can't verify the transaction,so this is fraud.We are going to keep your coins but your account is going to be banned."
I can't even realize the level of ridiculousness here.
It's funny how the Betking forum thread is dead,but this thread has many replies.
What is the Betking owner trying to achieve by making this relaunch?Betking already has lots of negative reviews and the reviews are visible.Do they think that they will get new customers?

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These are some of the worst terms and conditions I have seen at any casino.

7.3 In the instance that a deposit is unable to be verified by the Blockchain within a reasonable period, it will be considered fraud. All play and winnings associated with that deposit will be null and void. Your account will be temporarily closed and all costs incurred by BetKing Casino, including provider and platform fee retrieval, affiliate commissions, and BetKing administrative costs associated with these transactions will be noted on your account. A KYC is required to reopen a suspended or deactivated account. In the instance your account is reopened, all debts determined by BetKing Casino must be satisfied before you may play Games or make a withdrawal in the future

(source: https://betking.io/terms)

So if by mistake you make a deposit with small transaction fee, you are considered as a scammer.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on September 01, 2021, 07:19:05 AM

Deciding not to support the flag is one thing, but you're opposing support for it which only serves to give credibility to the scammer.

I've posted a note on the Flag page (words to the effect the Flag is not valid).

Quote from: theymos on June 13, 2019, 12:35:22 AM

The type-1 flags on Quickseller, BSV, etc. aren't misuse of the system by either supporters or opponents.

True, but Flag 2809 is a type one flag while flag 2810 - type three was created just one second later.

https://bpip.org/flaglog.aspx?accused=Betking%20Manager&active=active

Flag 2809 is redundant in more ways than one, hence my continued opposition to it.

I am also relying on this interpretation by theymos of their system:

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 12, 2019, 10:45:59 AM

Is a non-victim creating an otherwise factual flag also considered to be abusing the system?

Is someone who supports a factual flag that was created by a non-victim also considered to be abusing the system?

And is someone who opposes a valid flag also considered to be abusing the system?

That's all misuse of the system.

We either work within the guidelines as set out. Or, we do our own thing, then join a gang when we don't like what others are doing in this place and dish out rough justice.

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on September 01, 2021, 04:22:05 AM

Quote from: TwitchySeal on August 31, 2021, 05:14:01 PM

I don't see any reason for you to oppose support for the flag.

The Flag wasn't created correctly.

As you yourself point out, the flag creator is not the one who created the thread. Therefore it can be locked without intervention by the flag creator. The OP of the thread you pointed me in the direction of has no flags listed, so no Flags supported.

Okay?

Deciding not to support the flag is one thing, but you're opposing support for it which only serves to give credibility to the scammer.

And besides, I don't see any issue with creating a flag that references a thread that you didn't create - there's no reason to believe Jollygood will lock the thread, and if he does the flag can be removed - we don't need another Betking scam thread and Jollygood creating another identical flag just seems redundant.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on August 31, 2021, 05:14:01 PM

I don't see any reason for you to oppose support for the flag.

The Flag wasn't created correctly.

As you yourself point out, the flag creator is not the one who created the thread. Therefore it can be locked without intervention by the flag creator. The OP of the thread you pointed me in the direction of has no flags listed, so no Flags supported.

Okay?

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Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 31, 2021, 12:16:59 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 06, 2021, 08:48:23 AM

Bumping this topic since Betking.io back with Brand new account and start signature campaign self moderated thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-betkingio-signature-campaign-the-best-bitcoin-casino-full-members-5353071

I hope people will think twice before joining that's campaign, remember in the pasti they was scam many investors with their shit ICO.

Flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2809

Flag not supported at this point given:

The terms of creating Flags is quite clear in that the thread cannot be a self moderated one (this thread is self moderated) and the thread cannot be locked. You did not create the thread, therefore, you cannot guarantee that the thread won't ever be locked.

The flag is linked to this thread, which isn't self moderated or locked, and while the thread was created by JollyGood and the flag by Jawhead, Jollygood supported the flag and I'm sure he will agree not to lock the thread if it means keeping the flag valid.

I don't see any reason for you to oppose support for the flag.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 06, 2021, 08:48:23 AM

Bumping this topic since Betking.io back with Brand new account and start signature campaign self moderated thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-betkingio-signature-campaign-the-best-bitcoin-casino-full-members-5353071

I hope people will think twice before joining that's campaign, remember in the pasti they was scam many investors with their shit ICO.

Flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2809

Flag not supported at this point given:

The terms of creating Flags is quite clear in that the thread cannot be a self moderated one (this thread is self moderated) and the thread cannot be locked. You did not create the thread, therefore, you cannot guarantee that the thread won't ever be locked.

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All seems to be playing out and unfolding the manner in which I thought it would but serial scammer is playing this scam out faster than I thought. Maybe he will exit-scam sooner rather than later because most of the hallmarks are already there.

He was supposed to use USD$ millions from the 2017 ICO to develop new games but returned back with the same old UI based nonsense and the website was obviously going to collapse, then he added 3rd party plugins before he exit-scammed last time. Here he is laying the foundation to do it again.

I really hope investors and game players do not lose out with significant losses when serial scammer Dean Nolan uses his betking.io website to scam gullible people again.

Quote from: TwitchySeal on August 25, 2021, 12:44:48 AM

No way for players to communicate anymore.

No more attempted proof of funds.

According to their live bets tab, the last bet was 3 days ago.

Nothing unique about Betking anymore. Shitloads of shitty third party games. Looks a lot like all those dime a dozen softswiss/bgaming casinos did 3-4 years ago.

It's harder to find their original dice than it is to find 'Rocket Dice' which was known as 'Pocket Dice' until 2017 when it became clear they didn't have the funds to cover player deposits and they exit scammed.

Scammy 100% welcome bonuses:
- The maximum be amount while playing with bonus funds is $2. Players betting over this amount will have their bonus funds and winnings forfeit.
- If you try to withdraw before the bonus funds have met the wager requirement then the bonus funds and any winnings will be forfeit.

I could go on, but what's the point. Dean failed again.

Hi Dean.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on August 25, 2021, 12:44:48 AM

Scammy 100% welcome bonuses:
- The maximum be amount while playing with bonus funds is $2. Players betting over this amount will have their bonus funds and winnings forfeit.
- If you try to withdraw before the bonus funds have met the wager requirement then the bonus funds and any winnings will be forfeit.

Ironically, these are only marginally more scammy than other bonus terms I've seen: lowest I remember was a maximum bet of $6 or so.

Crazy to include that, though. Why not just rugpull if they complete the bonus instead of doing the opposite of attracting players?

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No way for players to communicate anymore.

No more attempted proof of funds.

According to their live bets tab, the last bet was 3 days ago.

Nothing unique about Betking anymore. Shitloads of shitty third party games. Looks a lot like all those dime a dozen softswiss/bgaming casinos did 3-4 years ago.

It's harder to find their original dice than it is to find 'Rocket Dice' which was known as 'Pocket Dice' until 2017 when it became clear they didn't have the funds to cover player deposits and they exit scammed.

Scammy 100% welcome bonuses:
- The maximum be amount while playing with bonus funds is $2. Players betting over this amount will have their bonus funds and winnings forfeit.
- If you try to withdraw before the bonus funds have met the wager requirement then the bonus funds and any winnings will be forfeit.

I could go on, but what's the point. Dean failed again.

Hi Dean.

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Quote from: RichGang on August 12, 2021, 04:10:51 AM

he is worst than before, he disabled his telegram group, site chat etc. so if you have issues , u just have to talk to him directly and he can scam your ass off lol.
he also abruptly stopped the promotions he was using to lure players. presently, u cant see all bets, you only see high rollers with green, that way new guys will be lured to the site thinking its easy to win. this scammer should be stopped

Yeah Dean removed many things since my last visit few weeks ago including the chat (both on site and telegram), the staking page where players check their staked currency, no more Races (wagering contest), and now the site looks like a dead site.
Dean launched signature campaign sometime ago, I guess there were not enough active players since the relaunch except some high rollers who dominated the Races.

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Quote from: TwitchySeal on August 07, 2021, 11:04:06 PM

Wow. That's pretty bold. What good can Dean possibly think comes from this?

Scammers in the crypto world don't really fear the usual obstacles primarily due to the anonymity factor which is why I don't find this surprising at all. He is simply trying to scam more gamblers by copying 1xbit's approach.

Quote from: RichGang on August 12, 2021, 04:10:51 AM

that way new guys will be lured to the site thinking its easy to win. this scammer should be stopped

Observed the same myself. This scammer can only get screwed as long as gamblers stop visiting his site, but the idiots who joined the signature campaign for a quick buck are helping his business stay afloat.

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he is worst than before, he disabled his telegram group, site chat etc. so if you have issues , u just have to talk to him directly and he can scam your ass off lol.
he also abruptly stopped the promotions he was using to lure players. presently, u cant see all bets, you only see high rollers with green, that way new guys will be lured to the site thinking its easy to win. this scammer should be stopped

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 06, 2021, 08:48:23 AM

Bumping this topic since Betking.io back with Brand new account and start signature campaign self moderated thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-betkingio-signature-campaign-the-best-bitcoin-casino-full-members-5353071

I hope people will think twice before joining that's campaign, remember in the pasti they was scam many investors with their shit ICO.

Flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2809

Supported the flag, they get the idea of relaunching their gambling site and launching a bounty campaign from another scam gambling site, we have a bad trend right now, scam gambling sites getting a relaunch of their gambling site and also launching their signature campaign, 1XBIT started this, now Betking I wonder is there a next scam gambling site to follow.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on August 06, 2021, 08:48:23 AM

Bumping this topic since Betking.io back with Brand new account and start signature campaign self moderated thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-betkingio-signature-campaign-the-best-bitcoin-casino-full-members-5353071

I hope people will think twice before joining that's campaign, remember in the pasti they was scam many investors with their shit ICO.

Flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2809

Wow. That's pretty bold. What good can Dean possibly think comes from this?

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Bumping this topic since Betking.io back with Brand new account and start signature campaign self moderated thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-betkingio-signature-campaign-the-best-bitcoin-casino-full-members-5353071

I hope people will think twice before joining that's campaign, remember in the pasti they was scam many investors with their shit ICO.

Flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2809

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After a brief look I noticed their live chat is abysmal as the rest of the layout including the plug-in affiliate games.

The end of objective of the whole relaunch drama is obvious, it is for serial scammer Dean Nolan to get rich quick again off the back of game players and investors who do not know what they are getting themselves in to but are there any reports from those using the website about what else going on there such as with deposits and withdrawals?

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