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TGW
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I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games.

Predicting the stock market is not the same as predicting the outcome of a future sporting event. We are not a casino here either.

If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

We never stated that we knew for sure what would happen to our signals. These are predictions. You probably have not read our Q&A. Meanwhile, you are commenting here. We have a system that we follow and a bank roll policy. We would never invest all our money in anything. You are probably another commenter who reads nothing about the project but expresses his negative general opinion on our project board. Please take the time to read about our project before making a comment on it. This makes you look totally unread and out of place. This is a project board and not a general discussion board. You are scaring people on the wrong thread.


This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.

We are sharing our bet slips with photos, and below the bet we are writing a reason why we picked the exact match and why we are betting on it. We give exact directions to our clients. Our system has worked so far, and that's the reason we are not afraid to give a vouch to an admin so he can track our legitimacy by himself. The groups that you are talking about are obvious scam groups.
legendary
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.

I like the idea. I'm not sure if it's new, but most of the services I believe charge a fixed monthly fee as long as you are subscribed. Well, thanks for explaining it well. I might consider your services once the NBA returns. Good luck
I always wonder myself what is the investment for this type of signaling services. In trading if I am good at predicting the market price them why don't I invest whatever money I have and make profit alone. The same in sportsbook or casino games. If I know for sure that In a Liverpool vs City match, City is going to win, then I will put all the money I have instead of teaching or requesting others to place bets and let them make the money.

This signal or tipsters do not make money from the bets they place, in fact I have doubt if they really place bets for themselves, their main business is to make their channel popular and earn from the subscription fees. When the ICO industry was at their top time, then haven't we seen so many signal channels. Eventually every member of their channels lost their money, but the channel owners made all.
legendary
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Hhampuz for Campaign management
if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.

I like the idea. I'm not sure if it's new, but most of the services I believe charge a fixed monthly fee as long as you are subscribed. Well, thanks for explaining it well. I might consider your services once the NBA returns. Good luck
TGW
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If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I

I like to see how OP would answer this question.  Smiley

There's nothing special here about this question. Have we ever said that we make profits every day? From everything stated on our site (in the must-read page), do you understand that we said that we are making profit every day? No, we are not posting signals every day. This one means that whoever says that has invested no time reading about our project and what we offer and is trying to draw a conclusion without proper research about something that he has never tried out himself or read properly about what it has to offer. In simple words, a malicious low-quality commenter who hasn't done his research before commenting with negativity on a transparent project that keeps spreadsheets and gives exact betting directions to its clients without posting a salad of predictions with no directions and proper tracking and calling it a worthy VIP betting service. Whoever still doesn't understand how our project and method work after every piece of information we provided here, and still spreads negative comments is probably a suspicious betting charlatan. We know what we are doing, we know our job well, that's why we are not scared of calling an admin to try out our service.

so98nn answers his own question there. To make more money out of something that is working for us. Where is the incomprehensible in that? It's that simple. We found something that is working for us, we are making our extras out of it, and since we are investing our time in it, if someone wants to follow our research and copy us, he has to pay a small fee until we hit our goal, not per month like most services. Since we respect our customers cash, we are not letting them re-subscribe before we provide what we promised. We are not gifting the time that we spend on research, that's why we have the fee. When we first started we had a symbolic fee of 5€ per month and some months were completely FREE but now we cannot give such ROIs for 5€.
legendary
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Hhampuz for Campaign management
If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I

I like to see how OP would answer this question.  Smiley
TGW
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A very simple question though, how are you making these profits, who is the expertise behind this. If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I never understood the assignment where peeps has money making strategy, they show how they are making it but later they would go and sell the strategy for more pricy Tag.

I don’t know, I might be wrong with ideology but honestly you have to got to answer this. It’s impressive how profits are being made everyday and yet this isn’t much popular. I hope you get what you desire from this service if it’s true.

You can check out our BetSteps365 VIP Signals x10 Spreadsheet to see how we managed to hit this ROI. Every bet is there, and the whole system is transparent. That's why I requested a big name from the forum to test our service's legitimacy and provide a review, and we're still looking for more. This service is not for everyone. It's for people who do not see betting as a funny everyday hobby but as an investment, and for those who do not want to bother a lot with researching but find everything ready from another trusted researcher. What do I mean by investment? You all know that if you bet as a player, you want to bet every day and have fun. This is not what we do here. We prefer quality over quantity since we are not "players". We do not act like sick bettors who bet every day on everything. Since January, we have placed only 23 bets on VIP Betting Signals (you can see everything in the VIP Signals Spreadsheet) and 22 of them won. The method that we use is compound interest on our victories. After 10 consecutive winning signals with the compound interest method, the VIP Subscription expires. This is what makes our subscription better, in our opinion, since the subscriber doesn't have to pay a fee per month but pays a fee per service goal completion. If I don't provide what you paid for, there is no need to subscribe again until I do. We do not force anyone to trust their investment in our system, but we trust our numbers, and those who like our numbers in our spreadsheet are more than welcome to copy bet our picks. You can view all my previous statements on our VIP Signals x10 and The 1€ Challenge spreadsheets.

Does people still use these type of services? I mean these aren’t fixed matches. These are just predictions, and people are risking their money on other people’s predictions. It’s better to do research on your own and bet according to your own will. At least if you face loss, then you will only curse yourself. These type of services, that OP is providing, is often considered as scam, once his customer loses a bet, they will just ignore you or block you. I won’t like to risk my money on other people’s call.

True, these are predictions made after research and not fixed matches like we explain in our MUST READ page. If you haven't read already we have this in our Q&A question 7.

Question 7: Are your predictions 100% sure or fixed?
Answer: Our predictions, as per the definition of the word "prediction", are just hypotheses about future events and come from humans. Results are, therefore, not 100% guaranteed to be correct every day. We are not magicians, and we do not have any "black information" about the events we are posting. By spectating, studying, analyzing, and using our instincts, we are trying to lead you to the correct betting decision. You are forced to use our bankroll management. In any other case, you are responsible for any outcomes, good or bad. In most cases, not following good bankroll management will result in a bad outcome. From 2018 until now, we have done very well, as our funds have remained positive since day 1, so we hope to continue.


Some people do not have the patience or the time to do the research and follow a system. That's where we come to provide our services. If they like our numbers, they will start following our method. We have been present since 2018 and have never left our customers after a loss. The service started in another forum in 2018, and our account there is 7 years old, with 0 scam reports.
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Does people still use these type of services? I mean these aren’t fixed matches. These are just predictions, and people are risking their money on other people’s predictions. It’s better to do research on your own and bet according to your own will. At least if you face loss, then you will only curse yourself. These type of services, that OP is providing, is often considered as scam, once his customer loses a bet, they will just ignore you or block you. I won’t like to risk my money on other people’s call.
hero member
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A very simple question though, how are you making these profits, who is the expertise behind this. If you are anyways making so much profit in a day and everyday then why is the necessity of providing such service to others? Just to make more money out of it? I never understood the assignment where peeps has money making strategy, they show how they are making it but later they would go and sell the strategy for more pricy Tag.

I don’t know, I might be wrong with ideology but honestly you have to got to answer this. It’s impressive how profits are being made everyday and yet this isn’t much popular. I hope you get what you desire from this service if it’s true.
TGW
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With 96 won and 37 lost bets we managed to have +14.72% ROI and +6128€ profit on our
VIP Signals while on our 1€ Challenge we managed to have +26.29% ROI and +457 euros or units profit with 170 won and 167 lost bets

All that for the great price of 49.99€ per investment rise

We are more than ready for the new season
 
Looking forward to work with more people
TGW
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The leagues for the 2022-23 season have stopped and so we are now looking at the start dates of the new leagues for the upcoming 2023-24 season.

Most of you will wonder, when will we have more VIP Signals per week? I will post below the leagues that we aim for for our VIP x10 Signals so that you get an idea of when we will have more VIP Signals per week. We currently have Argentina Liga Profesional and Brazil Serie A for VIP Signals x10 but we are waiting for these leagues to start too.

🇨🇿 Czech Republic Fortuna Liga ⚽ 22/7
🇨🇭 Switzerland Super League ⚽ 22/7
🇩🇰 Denmark Superliga ⚽ 22/7
🇦🇹 Austria Bundesliga ⚽ 28/7
🇧🇪 Belgium Pro League ⚽ 29/7
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England Championship ⚽ 5/8
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Scottish Premier ⚽ 5/8
🇳🇱 Netherlands Eredivisie ⚽ 11/8
🇵🇹 Portugal Primeira Liga ⚽ 11/8
🇹🇷 Turkey Super Lig ⚽ 11/8
🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 England Premier League ⚽ 11/8
🇪🇸 Spain LaLiga ⚽ 12/8
🇫🇷 France Ligue 1 ⚽ 12/8
🇬🇷 Greece Super League ⚽ 18/8
🇩🇪 Germany Bundesliga ⚽ 18/8
🇮🇹 Italy Serie A ⚽ 20/8
TGW
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Join our VIP program today to enjoy profits like these

VIP Signals x10 Current Profit: +6128€ (+14.72% ROI)
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TGW
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Vouches are still available for members that want to verify the legitimacy of our service. We just updated our VIP Signals x10 with a new bet.

Current win streak is 21 victories while we just won our 1€ Challenge again with 408 odd won (170 WON BETS - 167 LOST BETS - 457 UNITS PROFIT - 26.29% ROI)

The 1€ Challenge Spreadsheet check https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/416541 + https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/425ecBwVIXJI.png?o=1

We just won again. 22 consecutive wins for VIP Signals x10. You can check our latest signals below by copying the whole link into your browser

https://www.nulled.to/topic/1405847-betsteps365-thousands-€-profit-current-roi-1472-sports-betting-signals-start-making-money-with-us/?p=43023549
TGW
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Vouches are still available for members that want to verify the legitimacy of our service. We just updated our VIP Signals x10 with a new bet.

Current win streak is 21 victories while we just won our 1€ Challenge again with 408 odd won (170 WON BETS - 167 LOST BETS - 457 UNITS PROFIT - 26.29% ROI)

The 1€ Challenge Spreadsheet check https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/416541 + https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/425ecBwVIXJI.png?o=1
legendary
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
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Hi everyone,
I have made a quick check of this service. I get access to their discord VIP.
And I have verified bet posted here https://app.bet-analytix.com/bankroll/494446 (Downloaded and edited from CSV)
Following OP rules posted in FAQ I have counted bets win/loss with a fix amount played 75 USD (it's like a median value of 3% of stake to be played).
With this rule in 23 months he has realized ---> 798 USD as net profit = 34 USD per month.
He informed me that 3 subscriptions of 49 euros (about 165 USD) were required during these 23 months.
Subtracted from the total we reach a profit of 633 USD which becomes = 27 USD of net profits in a month.

As you can see from his stats he plays very often odds at 1.40 (71.4% probability of winning)
From the total played he achieves about 14% (real odds 1.14) so no "magic", he gets "decent" results for a bettor, in line with the chances of winning.

Now, we don't know if this percentage will be maintained in the future or if he will cheat with his service.
Or he is able to make bigger winnings. These are the numbers he provided and this is my analysis of previous bets.

Feel free to ask me for other details, I'm not expressing an opinion on the service itself but I'm reporting the data that I was able to analyze.
legendary
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for better transparency I advise you to put the criteria for the members that you will vouch for, for example you can put it like this:

I need 10 trusted forum members who are active in the gambling section and I will give them 5 tips with odds of @1.55 for example, then you tip those 10 members and when the games you tipped are over then those members will post in this thread how many games you got right and how many games you missed, how many high and low odds games you got right and we'll all do math on how much profit each person you vouched had, with that we'll be able to see how far your skills and it will be easier to determine if your service is profitable or not

I think if you're honest then everything has to be discussed in this thread, what's the point of creating this thread if you don't want to discuss all the details here? this weekend there were a lot of games, why don't you keep posting some free predictions, even if it's just one prediction per day, this will make it easier for us to see your skills better and we will judge whether or not it is profitable to use your service, I think it costs you nothing doing this, the best way to make people believe in you is to show them proof of what you are capable of doing, everyone has theory, but showing practical proof not everyone can do it
legendary
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A scammer would not need to if they have enough groups so they can provide different/opposite tips to different groups until convincing those in the most accurate "group" to give them money for further tips, which soon would start fail.

No it's something impossible (literally) to do. because we are talking about something made several times and not only 1 time....
Likewise, if you are making a guess and you have two option (like with Tennis)... let's make some practical examples:
50 groups have option A // 50 groups have option B
After first match only 1 option is a win... so we have just 50 groups able to play... and so on ... it means that after 4 matches... you have just a couple of groups with ALL wins... after 6 matches Smiley it ends with all groups have posted a loss ...
it is not easy to explain on a forum (also not in first language Smiley ).
but in general those who do not have a certain constancy can be seen immediately and not even a scammer can simulate this kind of results (of course if results are tracked and not created/simulated)
legendary
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Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.

The most common explanation you may get from services alike this one is that they do not want to reveal themselves to a wide audience or something like that. It could hurt their "business" eventually, assuming this is a "legitimate" one.

Free accurate tips would be the same that free money and that is not a profitable model. I would still advice anyone to be careful when dealing with tip providers and similar to those, for obvious reasons. There are way too many people who pretend to be gurus on internet.



hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbollo-betting-advice-45-267-13-1-place-tipster-competition-1234109
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.

I have sent just now a request of connection/DM. Let me know ...

High reputable user will not gonna waste time vouching service that they can guarantee the safety for long term. You might be giving an accurate prediction and good service for now but you can always be on hiatus like during Covid-19 any moment that will put their reputation in danger.

Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.
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"Mathematical" explanation, you can guess a bet at a certain odd, but it is much more complicated to guess them in series, and it is even more difficult to be able to give legitimate explanations of the won/wrong bets...

A scammer would not need to if they have enough groups so they can provide different/opposite tips to different groups until convincing those in the most accurate "group" to give them money for further tips, which soon would start fail.
legendary
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hi TGW , I am available to evaluate and leave a review of your service.
I have made this work for several similar services...tell me what I have to do to participate/make this review.

About my experience...
I have been managing a topic on the forum for many years where I provide advice and only free predictions (8+ years!)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitbollo-betting-advice-45-267-13-1-place-tipster-competition-1234109
I reached the 2nd place in the DirectBet competitions hall of fame (I won at least one prize in all editions...)


Enter our Discord and send me a message. TGW#4328 is my profile on Discord. Discord member since 08 October 2017.

I have sent just now a request of connection/DM. Let me know ...

High reputable user will not gonna waste time vouching service that they can guarantee the safety for long term. You might be giving an accurate prediction and good service for now but you can always be on hiatus like during Covid-19 any moment that will put their reputation in danger.

Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.

from mine previous "experience" I can guarantee that legitimate services or scams are recognized literally after few bets.
you don't need anything more to understand that.

"Mathematical" explanation, you can guess a bet at a certain odd, but it is much more complicated to guess them in series, and it is even more difficult to be able to give legitimate explanations of the won/wrong bets...
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High reputable user will not gonna waste time vouching service that they can guarantee the safety for long term. You might be giving an accurate prediction and good service for now but you can always be on hiatus like during Covid-19 any moment that will put their reputation in danger.

Why not giving free tips on the community for a week or month and let the community decides if you are offering an accurate prediction. Many can vouch for you with this method because many user become witness on your prediction.
TGW
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BetSteps365 current stats with the compound interest method on our bets. We started our VIP Signals x10 on January 2021.
Our fixed starting stake to achieve x10 consecutive wins was always 75€ (3% of our starting capital).

Starting capital: 2500€
Current capital: 7748.73€

Number of bets: 130

Profit: +5248.73€
ROI: +13.23%
Progression: +209.95%

Winning bets: 93
Losing bets: 37

Success Rate: 71.54%
Average Odds: 1.49

Played stakes: 39671.24€
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