Topic: Betting without losing your money/no need for deposit - page 4. (Read 1204 times)

That's right, the demo slot feature is of course there and it can be played to get a feel for what it's like or to avoid spending money to play it. I think this demo slot is quite helpful because there are people who think that the good thing about gambling with real money can be seen by demo-based gambling. I myself have a friend who is like this, when he wants to gamble he looks for a gambling platform or site that provides demo slots. first, and he plays using the demo slot to see whether the spin is good or not. but in my opinion this has no effect, demo-based slot gambling and slot gambling that use real money will be very different, they will not be the same. If you gamble on a demo basis, it's good, but when you gamble with real money, in my opinion, it won't be as good as every round.

I agree with that, I don't think it really exists, demo-based gambling in my opinion only exists in online-based gambling, for offline casinos it seems like there really isn't any demo-based gambling, unless they see other people gambling. However, in my opinion, demo-based and real gambling have different sensations, even though in demo-based gambling we use large bet amounts, it will feel normal, and if we do real gambling, even though we use small bet amounts, the sensation will really be felt.

You could put the link on the left without moving it. When people scroll your page, the link on the left will follow wherever the person scrolls your page. So they'll still see that link on the left. At least, that's what many casinos have implemented.

As much as possible, don't make the page very long. It can make people bored and immediately scroll to the bottom and skip the middle. For the main menu, you can also place it on the left and remove the right so that the article you write is not interrupted by links or advertisements on the right.

I hope you understand what I mean and can get better ideas for developing your site. This really requires focus to build a better site. But I know you can do it.

yeah I understand your point yet you should not use same trick in putting your title here because it is a total and complete misleading as there are no ways to gamble without even losing at least a cent or penny.

But I respect your perspective and I wish you luck but for now I will let others engage and try your site if it is worth playing and will evaluate the situation if I will create an account or not .

Welcome to the forum though.

That behavior is enough to see how you wanted a serious engagement her e accepting criticism to the limit  and use it as improvement advises , and yeah its nice to hear your plans for the future.

Welcome in Bitcointalk and try to engage more and explains your site plans and roadmap.

Many popular casinos have such demo feature games that players can play for fun without the need to make deposits at first, and that is what most newbies use to learn one or two things about the game before the go-ahead to try it in real money games, you are right about stake having that feature and a few time I was on that casino I make use of the free games to avoid losing money in real bets.
But aside from that I don't think there is any casino that allows you to bet real bet without money and allows you to withdraw the winning in reality because doing so is the same as giving free money which the casino will never do such thing and the highest free money from them is in form of bonuses and nothing more.

To be fair, I believe I have seen some faucets in casinos, which offer a very tiny percentage of possibility to get a relatively high amount of money out of them, though, managing to get those satoshis is itself like hitting a jackpot, so one cannot really rely on faucets when comes to trying to get some profits out of a casino. It is just too time consuming.
Also, casinos control the withdrawals which can or cannot be done with the funds which were gotten through the faucet feature, in the most of the cases the difference between the minimum withdrawal amount and the average faucet prize is so high, that it is unlikely for anyone to ever get some meaningful amount and simple spend those satoshis in the casino, to try their luck with that little money.
I would like to see more casinos to implement faucets, by the way, I know it is something which is more common to find in old casinos or some casinos whose thematic has something to do with their faucet, like freebitcoins, however, it would be awesome to see a faucet in Stake.

Hi @OP thanks for share your casino...Some questions... what is the minimum amount for withdraw? what about tx fee?
Last but not least... people can withdraw amount received only with faucet or they are forced somewhat to make a deposit?

Yes, faucet are really that just that in default kind of feature on what casinos could really be having on which we know that it is really just that good for testing out the site without doing any deposits
but we do know that the amount involved isnt something that we could really be able to boast on considering it is really just that small, plus there are really roll overs on which you would really be needing
to reach upon for you to be able to make withdrawal or even do talks about minimum for you to get out. Somehow there are really individuals who do able to make themselves that
able to get out with faucet amounts but it does need up that extreme luck before you would really be able to make it out and not everyone could be able to do so.
These kind of list or guide sites isnt really that something new and just like on what others been saying on which this one do really looks like a little bit non organized or
non pleasant looking due to some placement.

I won't be wrong if I should say it was a deceptive strategy you employed to attractive your traffic you wanted and just because you got it accomplished as intended doesn't make it the right way to go next time. Just be straightforward with your title next time and whoever is interested will still have to click and make use use of information from your site and you still get the traffic. This forum has a with sincerity and reputation and here a lot of members if not all  don't play romance with it. Anyways, welcome to the forum cheers!

Hi fren,

I am very new here, I didn't even know about membership etc. Thank you for mentioning this.

Games section will experience a rework. Bc:
1) Rollercoin needs an in - depth explaination and it doesn't pay that good without strategy, but I already made multiple withdrawals hence why it's promoted.
2) Coin - Birds paid me, but one of my users says (he has 0 referals himself and playing for fun) said he didn't get paid at all. I contacted support, I have a suspicion they only let referee's withdraw, not the average users.

If someone has a crypto game he enjoys and let's you withdraw without collecting referalls yourself, I would be happy to know about it so I can promote it.

Thank you!


Hi fren,

If one really only wants to gamble for fun or try out the service, I have to agree here. You can only claim every 5 minutes with bch.games + you HAVE to bet the claims.

So if you want to try out crypto gambling in itsself, yes I agree, the way you described with stake makes much more sense

Stake also allows you to play their games for fun. Before playing slots for example, there is always a pop up that lets you select if you want to play for fun or use free money. While I’ll admit I’ve never played “just for fun” on Stake, I do really appreciate that it is an option and think it probably isn’t the worst way to pass some time.

How does a player not exactly lose money here when they have to bet a little amount of crypto? Wouldn't that still be a loss for them right? What's the games that you're offering anyway, I don't want to click on any links so I hope you can provide them and if you plan to stay in this forum to create your community, you'll be benefiting a lot when you buy a copper membership in case you want to post images.

I mean, I understand this post of supposed to be advertisement for this platform mentioned by the OP. But in reality, casinos having integrated faucets are not new.
I have personally used faucets at least in three occasions in which they were natively integrated to their own casino.
In my opinion, faucets are not supposed to replace in any way shape or form the deposits made by gamblers for them to bet with. Firstly, those faucets are very time consuming and little rewarding for those gamblers you are accustomed to put at stake several dollars at the same time in a single bet, also in many cases those faucets are focused in a coin which are not the one preferred by the gambler to use, so even if they hit some big multiplier, they would need still to go through the hassle of withdrawing it all in a Blockchain they do not typically use.

When one is betting using such low wagers many won't find the same satisfaction and thrills which usually comes with their bets. Faucet are instead a way for newcomers to try the casino before depositing, it is some sort of demo which in most of the times requires registration, noone can get profits of faucets nowadays.

Thank you fren!

Yes I recieved a very small amount of traffic with the thread but I got something much more important here: honest criticsm for my website without sugarcoating. The value that this thread has given me is very high and I am thankful for every user who gave their criticsm of the site!

TBH I didn't really care about the traffic to BCH.Games in itsself, I was much more interessted for traffic for the bitcoinsguide.org and much more importantly -> criticsm of the community -> helps me improving bitcoinsguide.org

Hi fren,

yes you explained it as far as I understand it. BCH.Games gives you a faucet claims, but it is built upon the fact that it wants you to instantly gamble it. If you claim -> stack the amount in vault -> claim -> repeat, it will take you very long to hit the withdraw limit.
Like you explained it: it is a gimmick to gain traffic for bch.games, because like on their banner, they be like: get free bch, which is very attractive for a new user, so he joins. And thats all they want (obv they want deposit but when you are their site in the first place, it is MUCH more likely for a potential user to actually execute a deposit)

I didn't bother to go deeper on my first visit to the website but I think I will do that again since the OP replied after I criticised it. He insisted on the faucet which I will give the benefit of the doubt. But still, no faucets are worth using unless the person is only doing it for fun, not for the priority because the website operating the faucet will also want to gain something about it which in most causes traffic/recognition. It is just a way to encourage people to visit more in order to get what they are selling whether directly or indirectly to be noticed.

And as you said, it is all about the money, no gambling without money, that is the basis of it, but on the other way round, if it could be true that the faucet is working and encouraging, which I do not believe it will be, then it would still yield the money that can be used for the gambling purposes. I only hope that the wagering limit is supportive too. I know that we should expect a small amount in this regard, which will eventually discourage us.

But if the platform is good and one is used to it already, I know that to continue betting will be appealing. You can later deposit your own money which is what I believe is the motive of all these. This is still a gimmick, but a well-planned one.

Yeah. It's riddles with issues which is why this project is literally dead on arrival if you ask me. The silliest part is depending on faucets to bet which is technically zero investment, but it's literally dust.

Neat little scheme, but very few members from this forum would probably fall for it.

Did ANYONE actually try to deposit Bitcoin (BTC) to that casino? It's very laughable. It will literally require the user to convert their precious Bitcoins into Bitcoin Cash (BCH). But in what cryptocurrency will the site allow you to withdraw? Users will withdraw ONLY in Bitcoin Cash (BCH).

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What are they trying to do to their customers? Make them Bitcoin Cash converts?

This is a scheme Roger Ver could cook up.

Clear your caches and delete all cookies.

Yeah it is for the traffic same as how you created the tittle of this thread to gain clickers because people are obviously into  interest in something unusual 

Now you have got what you wanted and this is to click your thread , but like what you mentioned this is not about truly to gamble without losing but to gather traffic in those websites .

But still I wanted to welcome you here guys .

Oh, I understand, sorry for potential mods for multiquotes!

Yes the site is new. I agree with you, I will remove all those banners tomorrow and will focus on my content and focus on providing value.

Thank you for all of your replys, it really helps me improving the website!

Good luck with everything you are doing fren!


Yes you are right actually. It was wrong to call it an initial investment, it suggests that you have a high probability to actually make money or even make your money back. At the end of the day, gambling is gambling, you simply must not call it an "investment" and I will not do this mistake again!

Thank you for your reply!


Hello fren,

I am very sorry if this counts as a distraction, it is actually meant the view yourself described it: it should be a informational site so other users don't fall victim to sites that leads you to believe to unrealistic bonuses or are straight up scams. BCH.Games is not a scam site, but maybe my post is considered as a clickbait, I will be more detailed in my posts from now on so thank you very much for your reply!


Hello fren,

what can I say except: you are right. Instead of focusing on producing good content and serve a good UI for all users, I was too focused on providing traffic for the site. This will not happen again and the website will face a complete rework before I even think of promoting it in any kind again.

Thank you your reply fren.


Hi fren,
"As said, please fix your website." yes fren, I certainly will. Thank you for your reply!


Hi fren,

I can understand you thought it was my goal to solely send traffic, but tbh, it's the fault of my own incompetence and I will rework the site and remove all banners.

You can earn rakebacks without deposit, but obviously, with the small faucet amounts it's not even worth to mention.
Thank you for your reply!


Hello fren,

It's a matter of perspective IMO. If you actively play faucets, I have to agree, they are not worth it. But if you are like me and frens, play csgo/lol or some comp game, and claim on multiple faucets after every match: I mean, then it's literally free money! 
Thank you for your reply!


Hi fren,

thank you that I am funny! No but fr, I did not want to not be real, you have to understand me, I have this site that I want to promote (not even bch.games but my website which serves as a place for information) and in this regard I have to agree with you: Better to use precise words than to try to use sweet words. Thank you for your criticsm.



Thank you very much for your welcome it is appreciated!

Yes you are right, it is a review site not a casino site in itsself, I should have used more precise words. IMO(!) the faucet doesn't serve to earn money to individual users, it's a way for the casino to attract users, just like freebitco.in does. For sure, 1 in a million will win big with the faucet amount, but we both know it won't be you or me.
Thank you for your reply.


Hi fren,

I have to agree, the psychology is spot on. Which is not bad in itsself, but I will have to make sure if I promote it, I need to be more detailed about the way the faucet operates to NOT lure new users who didn't even gamble in, they gamble with the faucet amount and then just deposit bc "it's not enough for them" if this is what you are trying to say and yes I think I have to agree.
Thank you for the reply!


Hi fren,

yes based on all the reviews here, you are absolutely spot on. It is not pleasant to visit and I will make changes to fix that.

Thank you for the reply!


lmao. I did not want to make it seem like a porn site with my adsxD

Thank you for the answer fren:D


Hi fren,

spot on, but I have to disagree with you a little, sites like cointiply have a very low withdrawal limit (3$) so it's not the kind of site where you have to have insane money to withdraw.

Thank you for your reply


Hi fren,

I understand your sentiment and these replys show me that the ads and UI are simply not good. I have to change that, so thank you very much for replying and giving critique.


Hi fren,

Thank you for believing I am some sort of smart guy who came up with the idea solely to attract raw traffic and lead you to my banners. The truth: I was unaware of my annoying ads, the site is new and my english is bad hahaha

thank you for the reply:D


Hi fren,

I understand your confusion. I tell you my plan so you understand what I wanted to accomplish:

I know that BCH.Games has a integrated faucet and that bitcointalk has a betting section. I thought cool I can promote a site without a need of investment with my own website, which is a interesting offer to make. I did not want to mislead you, you was solely mislead due to my own stupidity, therefore I am sorry:D

Thank you for the reply fren.


Hi fren,

I understand your confusion. I wanted to promote BCH.Games with the use of my website, because it has an integrated faucet. The idea was: Claim faucet -> bet the amount = free gambling without deposit.
As mentioned by many users before, you are probably better of opening a demo account on a casino.

Thank you for the reply


Hi fren,

thank you for the reply. When the site first was made, yes, the idea was to gain users for the sites with the use of banners. I did not know that I will accomplish the exact opposite tho:D

Thank you for the reply


Thank you for the welcome!

Yes bro I need to improve the site a lot based on all the reviews here. You reply is very in depth, and I am thankful for this, all of your ideas will be implemented but I have to ask you one thing: Do you really think it's better if the menu does not move? I am unsure of that, I am afraid that the user if he scrolls down on a site which is very long (bitcoinsguide.org/faucet for example) he "forgets" the existence of the menu and will leave the site.
Thank you for your reply


Hi fren,

..... damn. I certainly do not want to give the impression the site was made by a kid in school:D
But your criticsm is very important because it is honest, so I have to keep it in mind and I thank you for that!


Hi fren,

very good point, the colours are not good actually.

Thank you for the props of the idea itsself, this is the reason why I take your criticsm serious and will improve it!


Hi fren,

you are 100% I learn a LOT from all of your comments and I thank every single of you guys, this is literally the best crypto forum I ever visited!


Hi fren,

I also think just reviews are not enough. That's why I also try to improve the crypto wiki on the site, the idea is to list "every" legitimate site of every category to add value to the crypto space the list a review of every known site.


Thank you for your welcome!

I think in theory it is possible to accomplish it, but the chances are just too low (like the 200$ roll on freebitco.in). I didn't really care for users in itsself, because when you for example collect refs with bch.games who do NOT deposit, it is literally not worth it, it's not even worth to be named. The idea was more to gain traffic to the website.

Thank you for the reply!