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Topic: Beware GIGAWATT is SCAM!!! - page 2. (Read 1603 times)

newbie
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October 18, 2017, 11:28:38 AM
#10
there is something you guys can do, just send complain on them so SEC will deal with them

The SEC regulates security instruments, like stocks. Some coins are security instruments, because the coin is just a speculative instrument that carries a significant risk of loss of investment.
Some coins, like WTT, are not securities because they have an actual purpose besides being speculative instruments. Therefor, the SEC does not care about WTT, imo. Why? Because anyone buying WTT is led to believe that their purpose is one of two things: 1) to get discounted space at their facility and 2) to rent out to other people for a profit.

#1 is like a Sam's club membership. You pay a fee. You get some credentials (an ID in the case of Sam's, a token in the case of WTT). And you use the credentials for access and discounts.
#2 is like a house. You buy a house and then rent it out to other people for a profit.

Neither of these is considered a "security" because the profit from the investment are not expected to be generated soley through the efforts of the third party. You are actively involved in the use of your token and you play a role in any profit they might make for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEC_v._W._J._Howey_Co.

https://www.cuttingedgecapital.com/what-is-a-security-and-why-does-it-matter/

So... complain away; poor victim.
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 18, 2017, 11:07:08 AM
#9
WTT token of ICO never release to anyone

This is a LIE. Batch 1 and Batch 2 tokens have been issued. People are renting out their tokens AS WE SPEAK.

I understand you are upset that you're tokens are not issued yet because there is a delay.
But what you are saying here is completely false.

And seriously everyone, if you have ever been involved in a tech project, a couple month delay is far from unusual. It is not ideal. It does often reflect a mistake in planning. But it is also completely normal and perhaps even the defacto standard.

If you're the type to over react and panic and not able to sit through a few months, then seriously, any sort of investing, beyond day-trading, is just not for you.

Last thing: Giga watt has acknowledged their mistake and offered you (and everyone else who bought a miner) free shipping to send your miner to any place you ask. You can send it to another facility. Or you can send it to your home. They made a mistake. They have been fairly transparent about it (just a little slow to announce). They are offering to send the miner to you. And they are working 24-7 to get more pods up. What else would you have them do? They cannot circumvent the inspectors.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Bitcoin is the King
October 18, 2017, 10:25:57 AM
#8
"They are pioneer in what they are doing within the US and Washington State. " - thats even better

there is something you guys can do, just send complain on them so SEC will deal with them, link: https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-and-bulletins/ia_icorelatedclaims

guessing, those people will be happy having that job to do:  http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/09/26/sec-opens-cyber-unit-govern-ico-projects-tackle-cybercrime/

Why would I do that ?
It's a great project for the crypto community and the decentralization of the mining space. It gives people like you, me, and others the possibility to have their rigs host in a safe environment with vey small fees and very competitive electricity rates.

I support them all the way. I will never complain to the Gov.
How stupid is that. You don't get it obviously. Bad you can't do it yourself.
hero member
Activity: 610
Merit: 506
crypto = passion
October 18, 2017, 10:17:08 AM
#7
Today is 18 october 2017!

I have bought a minerL3+ to May 2017 and yet isn't  UP&RUNNING


WTT token of ICO never release to anyone


Don't bought WTT or Miner from Gigawatt


LOSS YOUR MONEY

"They are pioneer in what they are doing within the US and Washington State. " - thats even better

there is something you guys can do, just send complain on them so SEC will deal with them, link: https://www.sec.gov/oiea/investor-alerts-and-bulletins/ia_icorelatedclaims

guessing, those people will be happy having that job to do:  http://www.newsbtc.com/2017/09/26/sec-opens-cyber-unit-govern-ico-projects-tackle-cybercrime/
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
Bitcoin is the King
October 18, 2017, 10:05:19 AM
#6
Today is 18 october 2017!

I have bought a minerL3+ to May 2017 and yet isn't  UP&RUNNING

WTT token of ICO never release to anyone
Don't bought WTT or Miner from Gigawatt
LOSS YOUR MONEY
They are pioneer in what they are doing within the US and Washington State.

Delays are due to Inspectors mostly. (PSUs from Bitmain not UL Certified and not approved by inspectors) And they've been very regarding during all steps of the PODs building. 7 City inspections for each Pod.

It has not been100% transparent that is true. We were kept a bit in the dark at the start but now that the First 2 Pods have been Final inspection approved it will go much better.

You bought end May. I bought mid June. It is coming soon.

Each step, each pod need to be inspectors approve. It takes time & GW is not in charge of everything. Gov. is in charge also and sometimes they slow things down.

- 2 Pods are running.

- 1 Pod waiting final inspection. (Where our gears are maybe)

- 1 Pod is Hardware deployment. (Or here for our gears) and will then need:
  . UL listing inspection
  . Correction Based on UL Inspection
  . UL Labeling
  . L&I Final inspection - Occupancy
  1 week total I think.

- 6 Pods are under constructions.

They are late (8 weeks maybe at the end?). Very late Sad but It is not a scam.


full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 105
October 18, 2017, 05:44:34 AM
#5
Same thing happened to a friend. I also heard about some people that have had their miners delivered to their facility and haven't heard from them since. I'm not one to bend the ear to every accusation out there, could be competitors or something, but in their case, with all the complaints, I think it's fair to say they're shady, at the very least.
legendary
Activity: 2002
Merit: 1051
ICO? Not even once.
October 18, 2017, 05:38:42 AM
#4
Leave the poor guys be, they're very busy with counting the $15 million they made from their ICO.....
member
Activity: 94
Merit: 10
October 18, 2017, 04:35:34 AM
#3
If that's true then it's very bad. But we need to hear more people testify to this.
full member
Activity: 714
Merit: 105
October 18, 2017, 04:15:44 AM
#2
Today is 18 october 2017!

I have bought a minerL3+ to May 2017 and yet isn't  UP&RUNNING


WTT token of ICO never release to anyone


Don't bought WTT or Miner from Gigawatt


LOSS YOUR MONEY

Not agree with you.
I bought from ico and I dont receive my tokens like you, but the team are actively work and responsible, I hope they release our tokens sooner, but I do not call them scammer.
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
October 18, 2017, 04:04:42 AM
#1
Today is 18 october 2017!

I have bought a minerL3+ to May 2017 and yet isn't  UP&RUNNING


WTT token of ICO never release to anyone


Don't bought WTT or Miner from Gigawatt


LOSS YOUR MONEY
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