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legendary
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March 11, 2019, 02:47:24 PM
#22


Be also beware of "oracles" who made us believe that they understood Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin is not a magic financial solution for mainstream consumers. It's a protocol which mainstream consumer financial solutions can be built on top.

Bitcoin might be of more value to people and businesses who look for a secure store of value, a settlement layer, a payment rail, or an unstoppable censorship-resistant cryptocurrency.

I think a core issue here is that Bitcoin's deflationary supply discourages spending. It creates strong incentives for people to save rather than spend, especially when contrasted against the inflationary fiat money burning holes in our bank accounts.

This is why some early altcoins like Freicoin introduced demurrage-like fees to discourage hoarding and ensure that currency remained in circulation.

If/when Bitcoin usage is ubiquitous in society, it will be widely demanded among merchants. Consumer payments don't need to be the catalyst for mass adoption, though. That's where I think people have it wrong when they put all the focus on consumer and merchant adoption. Bitcoin is a new form of money, not just an attempt to compete with Mastercard.
legendary
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March 11, 2019, 02:34:23 PM
#21
We’ll see who’s laughing when we see 6 figures (USD value) per bitcoin 2 years or so after the next halving. All of the doubters & trolls will be crying into their beer wishing they’d invested when it was still cheap enough to buy whole bitcoin’s.

’First They Ignore You, Then They Laugh At You. Then They fight You & You Win’

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March 11, 2019, 12:47:42 PM
#20
Why do we care what others say? Don't we have our own perspective of what bitcoin is and what it could be ?
If we as users use bitcoin for the right purpose and encourage others to understand what it could be and make use of it then who do you think will be able to stop the exponential growth of bitcoin.
What bitcoin can be in future depends on what we do with it now. So instead of asking others, listening to others' perspective about BTC, make your own perspective about it and strive with all your heart to make it possible.
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March 11, 2019, 12:13:50 PM
#19
I don't care what he is saying about bitcoin, I'm used to these FUDSTERS!
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March 11, 2019, 12:02:40 PM
#18
I just love the fud that nocoiners and "experts" are doing again, it was same in the last cycle. This time i am even more certain on what's coming.
sr. member
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March 11, 2019, 11:27:50 AM
#17
Even though I completely disagree with that dude in your screenshot, I really dislike the term "nocoiners" especially when used in a way that people use it as an insult if you don't hold any BTC. It's completely acceptable to be interested in bitcoin even though you don't have money in it, as bitcoin is an speculative investment to start with. Not everyone is willing to buy something as volatile as bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general.

I believe in Bitcoin and its great potential as an agent of change that many people are craving for but we have to always remember that not one thing can be solving the many gargantuan challenges facing mankind. Now, having said that, we should just let time what can be in the future as nobody can really be sure of what can be wether Bitcoin can eventually be adopted by the general population or will it evolve slowly into a new entity. For sure, Bitcoin is not perfect just like any man-made idea or invention but certainly this has a big value if utilized properly for the good of everybody.
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March 11, 2019, 10:05:55 AM
#16


Be also beware of "oracles" who made us believe that they understood Bitcoin. Because Bitcoin is not a magic financial solution for mainstream consumers. It's a protocol which mainstream consumer financial solutions can be built on top.

Bitcoin might be of more value to people and businesses who look for a secure store of value, a settlement layer, a payment rail, or an unstoppable censorship-resistant cryptocurrency.

The infamous quote by Paul Krugman about the internet shows that economists are not necessarily good at predicting technological trends. Thus, I take what he and even investment mavens such as Warren Buffett say with a grain of salt. Bitcoin is here to stay whether these people like it or not, and its adoption will depend on factors most people cannot foresee.
legendary
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March 11, 2019, 09:56:32 AM
#15
i very much dislike branding people like this with names such as "nocoiner" but i also hate it a lot more when i see some idiots keep advertising shitcoins and then claim they are better than bitcoin and on top of it all undermine bitcoin!!!

Why do you think they are idiots?

because most of them are still advertising crappy altcoins that have been dumped hard and have no signs of any pumps coming their way any time soon, but still they keep advertising those shitcoins with such hype that a newbie would think it is a real thing and they have struck oil Cheesy
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March 11, 2019, 09:30:17 AM
#14
i very much dislike branding people like this with names such as "nocoiner" but i also hate it a lot more when i see some idiots keep advertising shitcoins and then claim they are better than bitcoin and on top of it all undermine bitcoin!!!

Why do you think they are idiots?

Well, they may in fact be after all, but those who jumped on this train in early 2017 (and jumped off a year later) had earned enough. So they are anything but idiots by any modern standard of success. It is rather people who guilelessly and blindly believed in their words which could be rightfully called such derogatory names. But isn't it what advertising is supposed to do anyway, i.e. to help sell you something which is not worth it?

i mean i am more than happy to see an actual competition and an actual "better coin" that does things the way these shitcoins pretend to but when it is all an illusion to pump some shitcoin and take the money from newbies who don't know any better then it gets me really mad

So they are tricksters and con artists
legendary
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March 11, 2019, 08:59:50 AM
#13
i very much dislike branding people like this with names such as "nocoiner" but i also hate it a lot more when i see some idiots keep advertising shitcoins and then claim they are better than bitcoin and on top of it all undermine bitcoin!!!

i mean i am more than happy to see an actual competition and an actual "better coin" that does things the way these shitcoins pretend to but when it is all an illusion to pump some shitcoin and take the money from newbies who don't know any better then it gets me really mad.
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March 11, 2019, 08:52:29 AM
#12
Whether Bitcoin comes to dominate the world of crypto and payment  systems is a different argument, but there is no doubt that its impact on banking is up there with fractional reserves, and the removal of the gold standard.
Already it was prove the banking system because many countries are panic in crypto entering so fiat currency will not survive in future. But Bitcoin will legalised in future so automatically Bitcoin dominate the entire market. I think current market was disappointing to many peoples but reality Bitcoin is the only hope future economy.
legendary
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March 11, 2019, 08:47:15 AM
#11
It's the ying to the yang of lambos and moons. You have some that will say it's dead Rip and others who will say that it will be the world reserve currency in 5 years.

Just take it as a bell curve and knock the extremes out of the equation.
It is weird when people think that Bitcoin is dead but some new cryptos might have a promising future, though, and this seems to  be the view on the picture the op shared. I think we can divide people into many categories based on their views about cryptocurrencies:
- Bitcoin is the best, other coins are shitcoins,
- Cryptos are scam but blockchain is cool,
- Crypto market is a ponzi, and I don't care about blockchain,
- Crypto market is cool, there are many great coins,
- Bitcoin is obsolete, other coins are more promising.
legendary
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March 11, 2019, 08:46:47 AM
#10
Those tweets and news about Bitcoin from those who we believed to be professionals or experts must be trend on carefully because many of them have once tweeted about new technologies and the revers was the case, like the picture shared by OP. Knowing not the technology make them to give their selfish judgment about the technology; lets beware of them.

That is true, I remember all words by JPmorgen but all reversed and they changed their mindset and making their own. Even like this facebook initially stopped the ICO promotions on facebook but now they are also making their own coin called facebookcoin. So I personally will not follow any trollers word even though they are fame personality.

Actually they're not the best examples.

JPMorgan has never shown that they'd been starting to like crypto, they've started to build a stablecoin just because they've seen it can make them money.
Also Facebook's coin may be a cleaver way to avoid some more taxes.

So no, they didn't really get converted, they've just sensed the smell of money.
sr. member
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March 11, 2019, 08:37:20 AM
#9
Those tweets and news about Bitcoin from those who we believed to be professionals or experts must be trend on carefully because many of them have once tweeted about new technologies and the revers was the case, like the picture shared by OP. Knowing not the technology make them to give their selfish judgment about the technology; lets beware of them.

That is true, I remember all words by JPmorgen but all reversed and they changed their mindset and making their own. Even like this facebook initially stopped the ICO promotions on facebook but now they are also making their own coin called facebookcoin. So I personally will not follow any trollers word even though they are fame personality.
hero member
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March 11, 2019, 08:24:21 AM
#8
Here's a vision into the circuit. Unfortunately, the vision is something everyone cannot have. When you read the same things and come to different conclusions, everyone will have an idea. But it's not nice to say words over your head.

I can understand those who don't believe in Bitcoin. But I do not understand the hatred of their discourse. It's like something that hurts them.
They exclude everything. I'm not saying anything to anyone who has no relationship to crypto assets. Good or bad. I expect the same respect from them. One day, the crypts will either spread out or be completely destroyed. But people with no vision like first post on the thread won't definitely be remembered.
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March 11, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
#7
Bitcoin haven't failed to be mainstream, it will always serve as the alternate to the traditional fiat. Bitcoin as value storage token has now got its importance in all form of transaction support, but it hasn't gained the mainstream access which isn't possible in the short or long run. Bitcoin as a base to the entire cryptocurrency network will be followed by new coins and it won't take the place of bitcoin.
newbie
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March 11, 2019, 07:45:03 AM
#6
Bitcoin is slowly growing there is no "failed" - check the network numbers everything is doing nicely.  Mainstream adoption comes at the end there is no rush as such, good things take time.  The altcoins are mostly designed to get more bitcoin. 
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legendary
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March 11, 2019, 07:38:39 AM
#5
Even though I completely disagree with that dude in your screenshot, I really dislike the term "nocoiners" especially when used in a way that people use it as an insult if you don't hold any BTC. It's completely acceptable to be interested in bitcoin even though you don't have money in it, as bitcoin is an speculative investment to start with. Not everyone is willing to buy something as volatile as bitcoin or cryptocurrencies in general.
sr. member
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March 11, 2019, 07:17:12 AM
#5
This is second Nobel prize winner economist that I read in past few days , giving such bullshit advice. First I encountered in below topic.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/why-do-people-want-cryptocurrencies-such-as-bitcoin-5117968

Just do your own research and do not listen to anybody.

Have you ever wondered why these great economist are not rich and some college dropouts made fortune.
They always rather edge towards the side of caution and 2% yearly growth with mutual funds.
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March 11, 2019, 07:29:59 AM
#4
Whether Bitcoin comes to dominate the world of crypto and payment  systems is a different argument, but there is no doubt that its impact on banking is up there with fractional reserves, and the removal of the gold standard.
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