Beware of the Frauds , how pandemic is affecting gambling negatively - page 2.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 07, 2021, 06:24:33 PM

They have already been existing in the past mind you, but since the paradigm shift to digital services brought about by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, their huhting ground basically became bigger and wider. That being said, it is your responsibility as a gambler to ensure that you are not being pulled a fast one by these fraudulent entities, lest you risk losing all your hard-earned money and perhaps even more in the process. Just be more careful and vigilant.

It did really make out even more on their advantage because people are mostly dealing with things online which does mean that more people would really be exposed into
these scams which might really get victimized if they arent really that aware nor that careless on dealing with things.If everything do seem suspicious from user interface to
website design then you can eventually tell that it isnt really worth to make out deposits.There are lots of fly by night sites which are only intended to scam out users.
You should really be sensible on any action you would make because this will really cost you a fortune if you arent really that sensible.

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They have already been existing in the past mind you, but since the paradigm shift to digital services brought about by the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, their huhting ground basically became bigger and wider. That being said, it is your responsibility as a gambler to ensure that you are not being pulled a fast one by these fraudulent entities, lest you risk losing all your hard-earned money and perhaps even more in the process. Just be more careful and vigilant.

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Quote from: Silberman on April 07, 2021, 12:34:07 AM

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on April 04, 2021, 03:29:17 AM

Honestly I don't get what "malicious activities" you're refering to... since those frauds that are currently existing are those gambling sites that are confiscating funds and do have the history and possibility of scamming their users. Some of them are not paying their users for their winnings, permanently locking/banning of accounts of those users that are winning from their site. They just want their users to be those that loses, they do not want users that could win high so they ban them. That's fraud.

+1 , We have constantly seeing the same case over and over again , That gambling site is taking advantage of their Rules and bringing it against the players and the sad part is the community is divided into this matter.
There are accusation that some Names here are conspiring with some site to Justify those attack from their players while others believe that they are just bringing justice.
But the point is still Fraud is caused by gambling sites and not by individual players though there are some groups that spreading this thing to attack sites and Take a Bounty from it.

Since the community is composed of many individuals with different views it is logical we cannot all agree on every single point, but in my experience the community is really fair on their judgements on most situations, if a player is going against something that is on the TOS of a website even if the TOS may be considered to be too restrictive the player has the responsibility to read and accept the TOS in which case the community will side with the casino, but if the player is really blameless and he got a big win following all the rules then the community will side with the player and the casino could receive negative trust or even a flag if they do not pay the player their rightful gains.

malicious activities had been around in Bitcoin for years and still continue to happen and just today I saw a thread where he was one of the victims of Adkinsbet scam who can't send out more than 2K EUR. apparently, he trusted the casino because it allowed him to withdraw the first time he tried.

malicious activities don't just stop there. it's not a new thing anymore for us here in crypto. casino TOS and licenses are often cause of alarm. if the laws are lossen, scambags will always try to make money out of it.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 04, 2021, 06:30:50 PM

With the sudden rise of internet usage brought about the pandemic, of course hackers and fraudsters will see this as an opportunity to lure people in and basically drain people of their precious and hard-earned investments, all the more reasons for people to be more vigilant and intelligent in coursing the internet, a wrong click could literally cost you your investments, so it's better to be safe then sorry.

The people who are not familiar with the fake investment will just follow the offers without thinking that it is good to be true. All they want is how to make fast money from the internet because they are losing their jobs. That is happening in many businesses, but they lose their money in the investment that offers fast making money. The scammers and the thief are making money from the people.

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Quote from: btc78 on April 04, 2021, 06:27:57 AM

Quote from: Eureka_07 on April 04, 2021, 03:29:17 AM

Honestly I don't get what "malicious activities" you're refering to... since those frauds that are currently existing are those gambling sites that are confiscating funds and do have the history and possibility of scamming their users. Some of them are not paying their users for their winnings, permanently locking/banning of accounts of those users that are winning from their site. They just want their users to be those that loses, they do not want users that could win high so they ban them. That's fraud.

+1 , We have constantly seeing the same case over and over again , That gambling site is taking advantage of their Rules and bringing it against the players and the sad part is the community is divided into this matter.
There are accusation that some Names here are conspiring with some site to Justify those attack from their players while others believe that they are just bringing justice.
But the point is still Fraud is caused by gambling sites and not by individual players though there are some groups that spreading this thing to attack sites and Take a Bounty from it.

Since the community is composed of many individuals with different views it is logical we cannot all agree on every single point, but in my experience the community is really fair on their judgements on most situations, if a player is going against something that is on the TOS of a website even if the TOS may be considered to be too restrictive the player has the responsibility to read and accept the TOS in which case the community will side with the casino, but if the player is really blameless and he got a big win following all the rules then the community will side with the player and the casino could receive negative trust or even a flag if they do not pay the player their rightful gains.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 04, 2021, 06:30:50 PM

With the sudden rise of internet usage brought about the pandemic, of course hackers and fraudsters will see this as an opportunity to lure people in and basically drain people of their precious and hard-earned investments, all the more reasons for people to be more vigilant and intelligent in coursing the internet, a wrong click could literally cost you your investments, so it's better to be safe then sorry.

^ Even though there is no pandemic hacker and the fraudster was always there.
In my own calculation, it seems 90% of gamblers are not that familiar with technologies, they are really prone to fraudsters when they gamble online while at home but it is not new to them. They knew the risks anyway. It’s just that, it’s how they play their game.
Nevertheless, probably it is a natural for the gambler to find ways how they could do their stuff even when the pandemic is here.
They do not have a choice but to adopt new ways though. Casinos and gambling establishments are all closed down. (I’m actually referring to all of devoted gamblers and gamblers who do gambling for living)

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on April 04, 2021, 11:23:53 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 04, 2021, 09:21:51 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on April 04, 2021, 06:02:27 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2021, 05:40:58 AM

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I think it's a matter of little experience and unwillingness to analyze the gambling market for the reliability of the playground. On bitcointalk there is a lot of analysis and comparison of gaming sites as well as there is a possibility to get real reviews of players, information about KYC requirement, amount of withdrawal commissions and many other things. In order not to fall into a trap of scammers need only to spend a little time studying this information.

If people do not read the analysis and comparison of gambling site from here, they will not get the recommended list of the gambling site instead, they can get into the trap of the scamming gambling site. We do not know how good the crypto gambling site is from social media or another website as they can pay the other people or hire some bunch of groups to give a good review to their site. This pandemic gives a chance for the scammer to trick many people, especially new people who want to know more about crypto gambling site. KYC is one of many things that people should avoid if they want to play on the crypto gambling site because that is unnecessary.

There are many fake gambling sites out there and we should be wise on how we will deal each platforms because it's really hard to determine what's legit and what's fake nowadays. There are many victims of fraud and especially right now where pandemic and a lot of people are shifting into online gambling platforms. There are many platforms where we can verify gambling platforms such as this forum and Reddit. All of the things in the internet should be studied to make things sure because gambling is also an investment where you study the asset to foresee its potential.

What you are saying is right. Our responsibility is to select the recommended gambling sites, especially if we found a gambling site from out there. We do not know if that site is legit, but we do not have to test the site and deposit some money because we do not know already. Maybe if they can give the new members a welcome bonus, that can help us know if their site is good enough and safe for us. I prefer to search for the gambling site from here as we already read so many reviews from honest members and will always want to help the site grow its business.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 04, 2021, 09:21:51 AM

If people do not read the analysis and comparison of gambling site from here, they will not get the recommended list of the gambling site instead, they can get into the trap of the scamming gambling site. We do not know how good the crypto gambling site is from social media or another website as they can pay the other people or hire some bunch of groups to give a good review to their site. This pandemic gives a chance for the scammer to trick many people, especially new people who want to know more about crypto gambling site. KYC is one of many things that people should avoid if they want to play on the crypto gambling site because that is unnecessary.

In addition to this forum there are a huge number of forums about gambling, so find real reviews about the gambling site is not so difficult. Besides you can always read reviews about a gambling site you are interested in directly through google. I try not to play on sites about which there are negative reviews with proofs.

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Quote from: CarnagexD on April 04, 2021, 06:30:50 PM

With the sudden rise of internet usage brought about the pandemic, of course hackers and fraudsters will see this as an opportunity to lure people in and basically drain people of their precious and hard-earned investments, all the more reasons for people to be more vigilant and intelligent in coursing the internet, a wrong click could literally cost you your investments, so it's better to be safe then sorry.

It is true that the COVID-19 pandemic has made internet users now increase very significantly, because now many activities must be done online.
Including playing gambling, now gamblers prefer to play online, therefore now the need for the internet is very important. But this has a negative
effect, because many hackers and scammers can get more victims than before. Therefore it is very important for us to activate all the security
in the gambling platform that we usually use to play gambling.

So we can avoid becoming a victim of hackers, and also don't carelessly clicking links that we don't recognize, then make sure the link we want to
visit is appropriate. That way we will not become victims of hacks and fraud. Fortunately, as long as I played online gambling, there were no bad
events. because it always activates all the security features on the gambling site that I usually use.

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With the sudden rise of internet usage brought about the pandemic, of course hackers and fraudsters will see this as an opportunity to lure people in and basically drain people of their precious and hard-earned investments, all the more reasons for people to be more vigilant and intelligent in coursing the internet, a wrong click could literally cost you your investments, so it's better to be safe then sorry.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 28, 2021, 12:44:41 PM

Do you like the idea of AI tracking your every move?

Even without that technology, we are all tracked starting from location access, first deposit, withdrawals, etc.

That's not alarming for me. I just have to comply with the site's rule. It's good that there's a system like that to detect malicious activities.

If there's an event of the wrong accusation towards my accounts, that's a different story.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on April 04, 2021, 11:23:53 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 04, 2021, 09:21:51 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on April 04, 2021, 06:02:27 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2021, 05:40:58 AM

~snip~

I think it's a matter of little experience and unwillingness to analyze the gambling market for the reliability of the playground. On bitcointalk there is a lot of analysis and comparison of gaming sites as well as there is a possibility to get real reviews of players, information about KYC requirement, amount of withdrawal commissions and many other things. In order not to fall into a trap of scammers need only to spend a little time studying this information.

If people do not read the analysis and comparison of gambling site from here, they will not get the recommended list of the gambling site instead, they can get into the trap of the scamming gambling site. We do not know how good the crypto gambling site is from social media or another website as they can pay the other people or hire some bunch of groups to give a good review to their site. This pandemic gives a chance for the scammer to trick many people, especially new people who want to know more about crypto gambling site. KYC is one of many things that people should avoid if they want to play on the crypto gambling site because that is unnecessary.

There are many fake gambling sites out there and we should be wise on how we will deal each platforms because it's really hard to determine what's legit and what's fake nowadays. There are many victims of fraud and especially right now where pandemic and a lot of people are shifting into online gambling platforms. There are many platforms where we can verify gambling platforms such as this forum and Reddit. All of the things in the internet should be studied to make things sure because gambling is also an investment where you study the asset to foresee its potential.

Making up some research isnt really that hard at all.It is just on the time that had been put up by someone when making out some verification and not all would really be that eager
nor mindful on doing this very basic step which would really be able to saved up their asses into those frauds.You can eventually spot it out if one is trustable or not basing off on
community feedbacks which even on just using up your own common sense you would able to spot out which one is been used and which one is having some issues or complaints.
Frauds are circling around and this doesnt only limit out with gambling industry or market or on other markets as well.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 04, 2021, 09:21:51 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on April 04, 2021, 06:02:27 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2021, 05:40:58 AM

~snip~

I think it's a matter of little experience and unwillingness to analyze the gambling market for the reliability of the playground. On bitcointalk there is a lot of analysis and comparison of gaming sites as well as there is a possibility to get real reviews of players, information about KYC requirement, amount of withdrawal commissions and many other things. In order not to fall into a trap of scammers need only to spend a little time studying this information.

If people do not read the analysis and comparison of gambling site from here, they will not get the recommended list of the gambling site instead, they can get into the trap of the scamming gambling site. We do not know how good the crypto gambling site is from social media or another website as they can pay the other people or hire some bunch of groups to give a good review to their site. This pandemic gives a chance for the scammer to trick many people, especially new people who want to know more about crypto gambling site. KYC is one of many things that people should avoid if they want to play on the crypto gambling site because that is unnecessary.

There are many fake gambling sites out there and we should be wise on how we will deal each platforms because it's really hard to determine what's legit and what's fake nowadays. There are many victims of fraud and especially right now where pandemic and a lot of people are shifting into online gambling platforms. There are many platforms where we can verify gambling platforms such as this forum and Reddit. All of the things in the internet should be studied to make things sure because gambling is also an investment where you study the asset to foresee its potential.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 04, 2021, 06:02:27 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2021, 05:40:58 AM

~snip~

I think it's a matter of little experience and unwillingness to analyze the gambling market for the reliability of the playground. On bitcointalk there is a lot of analysis and comparison of gaming sites as well as there is a possibility to get real reviews of players, information about KYC requirement, amount of withdrawal commissions and many other things. In order not to fall into a trap of scammers need only to spend a little time studying this information.

If people do not read the analysis and comparison of gambling site from here, they will not get the recommended list of the gambling site instead, they can get into the trap of the scamming gambling site. We do not know how good the crypto gambling site is from social media or another website as they can pay the other people or hire some bunch of groups to give a good review to their site. This pandemic gives a chance for the scammer to trick many people, especially new people who want to know more about crypto gambling site. KYC is one of many things that people should avoid if they want to play on the crypto gambling site because that is unnecessary.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on April 04, 2021, 03:29:17 AM

Honestly I don't get what "malicious activities" you're refering to... since those frauds that are currently existing are those gambling sites that are confiscating funds and do have the history and possibility of scamming their users. Some of them are not paying their users for their winnings, permanently locking/banning of accounts of those users that are winning from their site. They just want their users to be those that loses, they do not want users that could win high so they ban them. That's fraud.

+1 , We have constantly seeing the same case over and over again , That gambling site is taking advantage of their Rules and bringing it against the players and the sad part is the community is divided into this matter.
There are accusation that some Names here are conspiring with some site to Justify those attack from their players while others believe that they are just bringing justice.
But the point is still Fraud is caused by gambling sites and not by individual players though there are some groups that spreading this thing to attack sites and Take a Bounty from it.

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Quote from: Oasisman on April 04, 2021, 05:40:58 AM

~snip~

I think it's a matter of little experience and unwillingness to analyze the gambling market for the reliability of the playground. On bitcointalk there is a lot of analysis and comparison of gaming sites as well as there is a possibility to get real reviews of players, information about KYC requirement, amount of withdrawal commissions and many other things. In order not to fall into a trap of scammers need only to spend a little time studying this information.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 04, 2021, 03:24:42 AM

Quote from: yazher on April 04, 2021, 02:04:07 AM

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No matter what steps are taken, it is practically unrealistic to keep everyone safe from scammers. You can see how fraud alerts work, using the forum reputation system as an example. Many scammers have negative feedback from DT members and warning flags for newbies, but still many of the newbies ignore these kinds of warnings and lose their money. I think the issue here is inattention haste and laziness.

And greediness as well, not only on the scammer's end but with the victim as well.
I don't know why there are still people who wants to gamble their money in an untrusted gambling website when they can always gamble at the most trusted ones. Maybe because of the sign up and cash in bonuses? Nah, that's just the same trap from several fraudulent gambling website before. I can't believe people are still falling for this. There's a huge difference between a shady company and the legit one, despite of it's period of existence. And yeah laziness to scan the website thoroughly might be the primary reasons why people are being scammed.

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Quote from: Eureka_07 on April 04, 2021, 03:29:17 AM

Honestly I don't get what "malicious activities" you're refering to... since those frauds that are currently existing are those gambling sites that are confiscating funds and do have the history and possibility of scamming their users. Some of them are not paying their users for their winnings, permanently locking/banning of accounts of those users that are winning from their site. They just want their users to be those that loses, they do not want users that could win high so they ban them. That's fraud.

Well malicious activites involve a broad number of activities, one of which is what you said though I think what OP mostly refers to is mostly fake online casinos and frauds. They are literally what you would call fake or whatnot, unlike what you indicated which can borderline be said to be legal casinos, just that they abuse their power.

Quote from: madnessteat on April 04, 2021, 03:24:42 AM

Quote from: yazher on April 04, 2021, 02:04:07 AM

They using such opportunities to fool others and give them false promises which don't really exist. In other words, these guys are experts in this kind of field where they already know how to fool their victims. We on the other hand should know how to counter those strategies and at the same time, we need to update the others on what these guys are doing so that they will be safe as well.

No matter what steps are taken, it is practically unrealistic to keep everyone safe from scammers. You can see how fraud alerts work, using the forum reputation system as an example. Many scammers have negative feedback from DT members and warning flags for newbies, but still many of the newbies ignore these kinds of warnings and lose their money. I think the issue here is inattention haste and laziness.

I agree, scams and frauds happen because of the inattentiveness of users themselves. There's no need to blame anything else, there are only two parties that could possibly be faulted here, the scammer/fraudster themselves, and the other would be the user themselves. I don't think I have to emphasize why the former should be blamed, as for the latter though, our own money is our own responsibility after all, and that should speak volumes for itself.

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Honestly I don't get what "malicious activities" you're refering to... since those frauds that are currently existing are those gambling sites that are confiscating funds and do have the history and possibility of scamming their users. Some of them are not paying their users for their winnings, permanently locking/banning of accounts of those users that are winning from their site. They just want their users to be those that loses, they do not want users that could win high so they ban them. That's fraud.

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Quote from: yazher on April 04, 2021, 02:04:07 AM

They using such opportunities to fool others and give them false promises which don't really exist. In other words, these guys are experts in this kind of field where they already know how to fool their victims. We on the other hand should know how to counter those strategies and at the same time, we need to update the others on what these guys are doing so that they will be safe as well.

No matter what steps are taken, it is practically unrealistic to keep everyone safe from scammers. You can see how fraud alerts work, using the forum reputation system as an example. Many scammers have negative feedback from DT members and warning flags for newbies, but still many of the newbies ignore these kinds of warnings and lose their money. I think the issue here is inattention haste and laziness.

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