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Topic: Beware of users scamming WITH escrow! (Read 1952 times)

newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
March 01, 2016, 06:57:24 PM
#27
Thanks for the heads up.

Can anyone recommend trusted escrow still operating here or on btco.in/forum  ?  JohnK seems to be inactive lately.

OgNasty is the safest option if you're willing to pay a fee and if you want it done for free, SebastianJu

Thanx mexxer,
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
March 01, 2016, 06:00:18 AM
#26
I dont see how this is related to fake escrow PMs.
I believe what he's trying to say is that the user would've scammed regardless of using escrow or not, i.e impersonate OgNasty if the user didn't agree to going first
copper member
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1528
No I dont escrow anymore.
March 01, 2016, 05:58:35 AM
#25
-snip-
og isnt online at the moment, and i need to go in 30 mins.

ok, send me your address, i'll send you 0.0375 BTC with double fees(0.0002 BTC), you can either wait for the conf or you can choose to trust me, then you send me $17 PM. Then we do this again.

Thanks

Alright we will do 50/50

1EAFZnCQZFxBmerD3fiEuVXbHtb8CaSDMa

BTW: OgNasty is invisible.. I used him before ;-)

Hope this helps.

I dont see how this is related to fake escrow PMs.
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Invulner
March 01, 2016, 12:21:05 AM
#24
See this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-05-btc-paying-with-perfectmoney-1374283

I recently got scammed by this user without escrow, but he offered to use Ognasty as escrow as well. I believe he is an alt of https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mstfck-159338 0.5 BTC, same escrow etc.)

Can someone confirm my suspicions?
That depends, can you show us a PM that was sent by him?


which escrow do you wanna use?

or we could do half each time, if you want

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ognasty-18321

I'll send him a PM now if you want

Half/half is also ok for me... but I always wait for 1 confirmation if that's ok with you. Had problems in the past with people sending me without adding enough fee or doing double spends.

og isnt online at the moment, and i need to go in 30 mins.

ok, send me your address, i'll send you 0.0375 BTC with double fees(0.0002 BTC), you can either wait for the conf or you can choose to trust me, then you send me $17 PM. Then we do this again.

Thanks

Alright we will do 50/50

1EAFZnCQZFxBmerD3fiEuVXbHtb8CaSDMa

BTW: OgNasty is invisible.. I used him before ;-)

Hope this helps.
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
March 01, 2016, 12:20:22 AM
#23
Thanks for the heads up.

Can anyone recommend trusted escrow still operating here or on btco.in/forum  ?  JohnK seems to be inactive lately.

OgNasty is the safest option if you're willing to pay a fee and if you want it done for free, SebastianJu
newbie
Activity: 19
Merit: 0
March 01, 2016, 12:19:20 AM
#22
Thanks for the heads up.

Can anyone recommend trusted escrow still operating here or on btco.in/forum  ?  JohnK seems to be inactive lately.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1029
February 25, 2016, 10:23:32 AM
#21
See this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-05-btc-paying-with-perfectmoney-1374283

I recently got scammed by this user without escrow, but he offered to use Ognasty as escrow as well. I believe he is an alt of https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mstfck-159338 0.5 BTC, same escrow etc.)

Can someone confirm my suspicions?
That depends, can you show us a PM that was sent by him?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Invulner
February 24, 2016, 05:15:44 PM
#20
See this thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-05-btc-paying-with-perfectmoney-1374283

I recently got scammed by this user without escrow, but he offered to use Ognasty as escrow as well. I believe he is an alt of https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mstfck-159338 0.5 BTC, same escrow etc.)

Can someone confirm my suspicions?
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
February 24, 2016, 05:11:44 PM
#19
Seems like another scam attempt: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13998900

Better watch out for those.
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 502
February 24, 2016, 02:42:34 PM
#18
I request all escrow providers not to send same type of messages for every escrow deal. Change the pattern of writing on every escrow. By same type I meant pms with same template because a scammer can easily fake that just by copying the template and sometimes many users including me skip to verify the trust rating when viewing on my mobile screen.

Similarly signing the message with pgp is the most secure way too.
hero member
Activity: 672
Merit: 502
February 24, 2016, 01:24:13 PM
#17
This forum's escrow services are really that much better than not using an escrow at all. First master-p and now this. The forum is seriously going down fast.

Case of master-p was different but how is this escrow's fault?

Anyone can PRETEND to be anyone, the simple solution to this is, talk to the person directly and ask for signed PGP + BTC address message and verify those before conducting any business. Infact this rule applies to anyone you're dealing with because this is clearly an attempt to scam and/or harm other person's reputation.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 251
February 24, 2016, 11:41:31 AM
#16
This forum's escrow services are really that much better than not using an escrow at all. First master-p and now this. The forum is seriously going down fast.
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1000
February 24, 2016, 11:40:40 AM
#15
This scammer is providing a great service to the community.

If you are stupid enough to fall for this, you are going to lose your coins anyway, at least this guy is just ripping off the band aid fast and taking a bunch at once instead of bleeding you to death over time like some of the scam "companies" out there.

Are people really dumb enough to send coins to an "escrow" without communicating with them on their own?
hero member
Activity: 924
Merit: 1005
4 Mana 7/7
February 24, 2016, 08:28:32 AM
#14
Seems its usually users who are trading with a currency, a trade which seems too good to be true - Escrow available, around 0.5 BTC being traded, which usually scam. Think its time to ask for signed messages from the address they claim holds the amount, and posting a warning that they should get a PGP signed message before sending BTCs to addresses claimed by the other person to be from the escrow
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
February 24, 2016, 08:27:19 AM
#13
@Lutpin I'll have to do some research.  Some of the PMs I got, the link has been taken down by the scammer, and some I didn't receive the link.  In the end I might be able to only get 1 address.
One address might be all I need. If you think it's worth the effort, I'd appreciate getting hands any addresses connected.
legendary
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1029
February 24, 2016, 08:24:29 AM
#12
You gotta admit, there is some (albeit woefully misplaced) creativity in this. Fake quote, fake link, fake website, it's not your average penny scammer.


Yeah, I wonder how many times it's worked? I can imagine it'll sting a few people. Quite a few have fallen for newbies pretending to be reputable higher ranked members so I'm sure this will work eventually if it hasn't already.
I've been contacted multiple times by people who actually got scammed.  The thing is, they didn't try to impersonate me... They claimed that they got a PM from me and forwards it to the buyer/seller.  I've got to admit, it would seem pretty legit to a person who is new to the concept of escrow.

And yes, be SURE to actually verify the quote, guys.  Report any users that seem suspicious.

@Lutpin I'll have to do some research.  Some of the PMs I got, the link has been taken down by the scammer, and some I didn't receive the link.  In the end I might be able to only get 1 address.
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 502
February 24, 2016, 04:18:51 AM
#11
Always check for the "This user is new and may not be who you think they are warning" above as I imagine most of these accounts are newish.
Did you even read how they try to scam up above?

I did, but I was adding this as im sure some people have tried this in PM also. The more information the better really, right?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 502
February 24, 2016, 04:15:38 AM
#10
Always check for the "This user is new and may not be who you think they are warning" above as I imagine most of these accounts are newish.
global moderator
Activity: 4018
Merit: 2728
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February 24, 2016, 04:14:00 AM
#9
You gotta admit, there is some (albeit woefully misplaced) creativity in this. Fake quote, fake link, fake website, it's not your average penny scammer.


Yeah, I wonder how many times it's worked? I can imagine it'll sting a few people. Quite a few have fallen for newbies pretending to be reputable higher ranked members so I'm sure this will work eventually if it hasn't already.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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February 23, 2016, 10:21:48 PM
#8
You gotta admit, there is some (albeit woefully misplaced) creativity in this. Fake quote, fake link, fake website, it's not your average penny scammer.
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