While there are very successful and free tipsters everywhere in this forum, why would anyone pay for tips?
It may seem easy to pick 1.5 games but it is not. It is not because they usually win, you need more than usually to make money. You need to win at least 3 or 4 games before you lose one. And when you lose 2-3 times in a row, it is over.
Topic: Beware tipster SCAMMERS such as COINVISER (Read 1151 times)
Hello,
as I fellow every thread in here I sometimes pop up scammer attempts.
Last time I focus on tipsters in here exactly Joca97, esportstipster, Coinviser etc.
I buyed their tips ( if neccesary) and checked every time if they speak true or lie.
Actually Joca97 is best and honest tipster over here so it was easy check but Coinviser ( Jr. member created only for tips) lied a lot.
Coinviser claims 70%+ bets sucess but actually it's 55% sucess for bets with odds less than 1.5 and 40% sucess for bets higher than 1.5
Coinviser tips come from bettingexpert.com where he stole "bets description" and take your money for this copy ( actually there is +1.27% profit with over 10 000 bets what's quite funny
)
Coinviser have several Jr accounts to promote his scam thread beware of this!!!! He will defend himself in here with these profiles!!!
You can check by yourself :
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i hear before coinvser have problem with people on altcoin section,its mean coinviser really scammer with so many bitcointalk accounts?i'm afraid to deal with people untrusted,its why i need escrow in every transaction,i wish this thread also appear on scam acusiation. as I fellow every thread in here I sometimes pop up scammer attempts.
Last time I focus on tipsters in here exactly Joca97, esportstipster, Coinviser etc.
I buyed their tips ( if neccesary) and checked every time if they speak true or lie.
Actually Joca97 is best and honest tipster over here so it was easy check but Coinviser ( Jr. member created only for tips) lied a lot.
Coinviser claims 70%+ bets sucess but actually it's 55% sucess for bets with odds less than 1.5 and 40% sucess for bets higher than 1.5
Coinviser tips come from bettingexpert.com where he stole "bets description" and take your money for this copy ( actually there is +1.27% profit with over 10 000 bets what's quite funny
)Coinviser have several Jr accounts to promote his scam thread beware of this!!!! He will defend himself in here with these profiles!!!
You can check by yourself :
[13.2.2016 22:39:16] Coin Viser: Premium games for Sunday:
[13.2.2016 22:39:29] Coin Viser: http://prntscr.com/a2w60k
[13.2.2016 22:39:35] Coin Viser: http://prntscr.com/a2s83c
[13.2.2016 22:39:43] Coin Viser: http://prntscr.com/a2u0nf
[14.2.2016 20:34:52] Coin Viser: Premium games for Monday:
http://prntscr.com/a39309
http://prntscr.com/a38z1b
http://prntscr.com/a391a7
[15.2.2016 22:59:43] Coin Viser: Premium games for Tuesday:
http://prntscr.com/a3nbex
http://prntscr.com/a3ndc4
http://prntscr.com/a3nf06
[16.2.2016 21:02:14] Coin Viser: Premium games for Wednesday:
http://prntscr.com/a455sq
http://prntscr.com/a4577k
http://prntscr.com/a453br
[18.2.2016 1:09:05] Coin Viser: Premium games for Thursday:
http://prntscr.com/a4mbxt
http://prntscr.com/a4me4n
http://prntscr.com/a4mh6n
[18.2.2016 23:46:50] Coin Viser: Premium games for Friday:
http://prntscr.com/a52264
http://prntscr.com/a525qv
http://prntscr.com/a528b7
Bonus parlay (NEW)
http://prntscr.com/a52gny
[20.2.2016 0:01:48] Coin Viser: Premium games for Saturday:
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[20.2.2016 23:07:51] Coin Viser: Premium games for Sunday:
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[21.2.2016 20:20:08] Coin Viser: Premium games for Monday:
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[22.2.2016 21:44:36] Coin Viser: Premium games for Tuesday:
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Buying tips is like buying one of those "How to become rich" books, anyone who buys them have only themselves to blame, if these tipsters were SO GOOD, they wouldn't need to sell the damn tips in the first place.
Thank you for exposing this person, though I think you need a bit more proof. I often wonder about these tipsters legitamacy my self. Now I see there others that wonder too too. Thanks for letting us know of legit tipsters as well and not just focusing on the negative aspects. Very informative keep us posted as to any new developments.
LOL lie lie lie I sow bettingexpert.com prediction & describes and its totally the same thing
I was betting your scam tips for 40 days ( 200 games) and only 114 was win ( and most of them like 80 was odd under 1.4!!!!)
also I'm not here to fight with you everyone know you will be defending your money but everyone have to know you lie and your winning % are totally different than you claim :-)
To me coinviser seems reasonable. OP you guys need to sort this out. Coinviser is actually being quite calm about this which is good. Does he have scam accusations open ? If he does then you probably should have included that. To me coinviser seems legit. He isn't making broken promises, he doesn't promise a win. He just let's you know how his betting is going and if you wish to do as he does then its up to you. I don't think coinviser would bet if he was losing so it makes no sense that he would cheat you because if you losing money that means he is as well. I don't see the problem here.
I need to answer on this accusations.
1. You said that i lied a lot? Explain please
2. Our stats is 100% correct, people who follow us from begining know that, one our customers ask us for premium tips stats and we send him http://prntscr.com/a8e2dc
3. You made that stats on 38 games that we send you and our percent is biger thatn you say, people can see our games that we send to you
4. Do you have a proof that we use our predictions from bettingexpert.com because that is ridiculous, we made them by ourselves
5. Admins on this forum can check our profile and prove that info anytime
6. You buy our monthly membersihp and give up after 13 days, you didnt bet on our game, and when you bet on our game you didnt bet right just like we say.
7. You also say that you lose a lot of btc (over 10) so thats funny to us because you sent this picutre http://prntscr.com/a7xukj and we conclude fact no6. Also we saw your bet that was about 0.01 btc for several days..so that cant be over 10 BTC as you said.
8. You bet wrong! You put big bet on high odd and low bet on low odd, and thats wrong if you wanna to made some profit, its a logic stuff
9. We have sponsor like a dircet bet and vegascasino.io ,they wouldn't give their sponsorship to a scammer, it's obvious they saw something good about us
10. You are the only one who complaining on our work, we have a lot of satisfied customers who made a big profit thanks to us.
11. When you buy our monthly membership, we said that if we lose 30+ games of 90 we will send a new 30+ games for next month for free! Our price was 0.72 for those 90 games and you pay to us only 0.4 btc so you are the scamer here. Also you promise to us that you will bring over 100 people to be our customers if we lower our monthly membership price.
We also conluded that you dont know how to bet or use our service.
CoinViser
1. You said that i lied a lot? Explain please
2. Our stats is 100% correct, people who follow us from begining know that, one our customers ask us for premium tips stats and we send him http://prntscr.com/a8e2dc
3. You made that stats on 38 games that we send you and our percent is biger thatn you say, people can see our games that we send to you
4. Do you have a proof that we use our predictions from bettingexpert.com because that is ridiculous, we made them by ourselves
5. Admins on this forum can check our profile and prove that info anytime
6. You buy our monthly membersihp and give up after 13 days, you didnt bet on our game, and when you bet on our game you didnt bet right just like we say.
7. You also say that you lose a lot of btc (over 10) so thats funny to us because you sent this picutre http://prntscr.com/a7xukj and we conclude fact no6. Also we saw your bet that was about 0.01 btc for several days..so that cant be over 10 BTC as you said.
8. You bet wrong! You put big bet on high odd and low bet on low odd, and thats wrong if you wanna to made some profit, its a logic stuff
9. We have sponsor like a dircet bet and vegascasino.io ,they wouldn't give their sponsorship to a scammer, it's obvious they saw something good about us
10. You are the only one who complaining on our work, we have a lot of satisfied customers who made a big profit thanks to us.
11. When you buy our monthly membership, we said that if we lose 30+ games of 90 we will send a new 30+ games for next month for free! Our price was 0.72 for those 90 games and you pay to us only 0.4 btc so you are the scamer here. Also you promise to us that you will bring over 100 people to be our customers if we lower our monthly membership price.
We also conluded that you dont know how to bet or use our service.
CoinViser
LOL lie lie lie I sow bettingexpert.com prediction & describes and its totally the same thing
I was betting your scam tips for 40 days ( 200 games) and only 114 was win ( and most of them like 80 was odd under 1.4!!!!)
also I'm not here to fight with you everyone know you will be defending your money but everyone have to know you lie and your winning % are totally different than you claim :-)
To me coinviser seems reasonable. OP you guys need to sort this out. Coinviser is actually being quite calm about this which is good. Does he have scam accusations open ? If he does then you probably should have included that. To me coinviser seems legit. He isn't making broken promises, he doesn't promise a win. He just let's you know how his betting is going and if you wish to do as he does then its up to you. I don't think coinviser would bet if he was losing so it makes no sense that he would cheat you because if you losing money that means he is as well. I don't see the problem here.
What is the problem here, I think coinviser is doing good until today someone called them scammer. So you will said that all paid tipster here is all scammer? Like Joca97 and Carles too? I think both of them and coinviser is not a scammer, they just want to help us to gain more profit for someone who doesnt have time to gather some information. Btw is there any proof that Coinviser is a scammer?
THANK YOU!!!! THERE IS 0 PROOF FOR THAT FACT!
"TOP DEFINITION
Scammer
One who does everything in his/her power to steal from another, usually by means of trickery, deceit, and force. With the accesibility and anonymousity that the internet provides, scammers have become increasingly prevalent in modern times. Usually driven by personal greed or even outright amusement, they are unhindered by sympathy or morals and are the very face of human corruption."
I never steal money from anyone here!
I am here, on this forum to help other peoplse with my predictions, free or not that is people choice!
What is the problem here, I think coinviser is doing good until today someone called them scammer. So you will said that all paid tipster here is all scammer? Like Joca97 and Carles too? I think both of them and coinviser is not a scammer, they just want to help us to gain more profit for someone who doesnt have time to gather some information. Btw is there any proof that Coinviser is a scammer?
Why do you need to buy tips? if you love the sports you betting, you will know how they play and their performance. i prefer to win and lose base on my instinct
This guy is experienced gambler over two years and still dont know how to gamble and still buynig our games, and i just dont get it how are we scamers?
Maybe not a scammer, but maybe your not reliable anymore as a sports tipster,
That is the point, we are not scamers!
Why do you need to buy tips? if you love the sports you betting, you will know how they play and their performance. i prefer to win and lose base on my instinct
This guy is experienced gambler over two years and still dont know how to gamble and still buynig our games, and i just dont get it how are we scamers?
Maybe not a scammer, but maybe your not reliable anymore as a sports tipster,
Why do you need to buy tips? if you love the sports you betting, you will know how they play and their performance. i prefer to win and lose base on my instinct
This guy is experienced gambler over two years and still dont know how to gamble and still buynig our games, and i just dont get it how are we scamers?
Why do you need to buy tips? if you love the sports you betting, you will know how they play and their performance. i prefer to win and lose base on my instinct
I don't care about real winning percentage rate or odds rate as long as it's free.
Just look for trusted or popular free tips and there won't be any serious problem.
Also, buy premium tips is stupid because it's not 100% accurate.
If you really need good tips, looks for premium tips website which is trusted, have very good history and popular.
Just look for trusted or popular free tips and there won't be any serious problem.
Also, buy premium tips is stupid because it's not 100% accurate.
If you really need good tips, looks for premium tips website which is trusted, have very good history and popular.
We never say that we offer 100% accurate, on our page we offer 3 kind of bets with 65% 80% and 95% and that % all can see. We never forced someone to buy our picks so that is a choice of customers. We allways give free tips, and other people who buy our premium picks are satisfied.
WIN WIN WIN
OUR PLATINUM TIP WIN
THIS IS WHAT WE PREDICT
FULL TIME
LEICESTER 1 - 0 NORWICH
LEICESTER 1 - 0 NORWICH
Looks like everything but the final sentence came from here:
http://leaguelane.com/leicester-city-vs-norwich-city-premier-league-match-preview-and-prediction-27-feb-2016/
Maybe they are stitching together the analysis from different sources and then posting them here. I won't bother checking the older texts though. Just a quick heads-up for the community.
Edit.
The final sentence came from here :
https://www.betitbest.com/de/news/leicester-city-v-noriwch-city-match-preview-2020581
This links to The Guardian : http://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/feb/26/leicester-city-norwich-city-match-preview
Edit 2.0
I will do the latest post too:
WIN WIN WIN
OUR GOLD TIP WIN
THIS IS WHAT WE PREDICT
FULL TIME
WIGAN 3 - 0 BURY
WIGAN 3 - 0 BURY
Source:
http://www.wiganlatics.co.uk/news/article/league-one-match-preview-wigan-athletic-v-bury-2973576.aspx
It's now obvious Coinviser staff are basing their analysis on ready pre-match articles and then writing their own conclusions and/or changing parts of the writings. It's also obvious English is not their native language because of trivial mistakes in their own words like 'concealed' instead of conceded and Latecs instead of Latics.
Now I don't think their are 100% scammers maybe plagiarists but that's for you to decide. Cheers
Thanks for drawing this to the communities attention. I was following some of Coinviser's tips a while back and didn't catch on to this. Thankfully I never bought any of his tips.
show a list of past tips.... and we can take an idea
This guy is so funny, telling the lies, and dont have proof! He use our service for only `13 days, we have all transaction for him, and he is telling about over 200 games, 13 days x3 games (1 postponed) = 38
So he use 13 days our service not 40
He get 38 games not 200
And yes show to all your beting list with our 200 games
0 PROOF
show a list of past tips.... and we can take an idea
This guy is so funny, telling the lies, and dont have proof! He use our service for only `13 days, we have all transaction for him, and he is telling about over 200 games, 13 days x3 games (1 postponed) = 38
So he use 13 days our service not 40
He get 38 games not 200
show a list of past tips.... and we can take an idea
you want proofs? Check your tips LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
As i said you dont have proofs, you use our service for only 13 days not 40 just like you said, and you get 38 games not 200, you are funny and its sad what are you writnig here and lying this people, i prove all to my customers that you are jealousy newbie in gambling, You didnt make a profit because you dont know how to gamble, dont know to read and follow our instructions, so i dont care anymore, and your plan to destroy our work just like you say via skype didnt work, becouse our customers know that we are not scum. Bye bye
CoinViser
I was buying tips for over 40 days ...
for example few transactions :
Feb 10th 2016, 02:17
93e237f47a217aa30a22288694d6b1d40e0499376d99b8d03e9d0219e619e8dc
6.06 mBTC
Feb 9th 2016, 12:12
b9e3eb373319068dc15b481b9a5a8b2fe294f7d78169b4ecd600e53c3c2d8ade
8.03 mBTC
I'm gambling for 2 years and I revealed several scams.... I lost money? Yes exactly number you rubbed me for tips :-)
And again your fail..i see only 2 transaction , and you say that you have 40
lol No proof, just telling lies
EPIC FAIL
you want proofs? Check your tips LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
As i said you dont have proofs, you use our service for only 13 days not 40 just like you said, and you get 38 games not 200, you are funny and its sad what are you writnig here and lying this people, i prove all to my customers that you are jealousy newbie in gambling, You didnt make a profit because you dont know how to gamble, dont know to read and follow our instructions, so i dont care anymore, and your plan to destroy our work just like you say via skype didnt work, becouse our customers know that we are not scum. Bye bye
CoinViser
I was buying tips for over 40 days ...
for example few transactions :
Feb 10th 2016, 02:17
93e237f47a217aa30a22288694d6b1d40e0499376d99b8d03e9d0219e619e8dc
6.06 mBTC
Feb 9th 2016, 12:12
b9e3eb373319068dc15b481b9a5a8b2fe294f7d78169b4ecd600e53c3c2d8ade
8.03 mBTC
I'm gambling for 2 years and I revealed several scams.... I lost money? Yes exactly number you rubbed me for tips :-)
you want proofs? Check your tips LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
As i said you dont have proofs, you use our service for only 13 days not 40 just like you said, and you get 38 games not 200, you are funny and its sad what are you writnig here and lying this people, i prove all to my customers that you are jealousy newbie in gambling, You didnt make a profit because you dont know how to gamble, dont know to read and follow our instructions, so i dont care anymore, and your plan to destroy our work just like you say via skype didnt work, becouse our customers know that we are not scum. Bye bye
CoinViser
you want proofs? Check your tips LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
everyone check bettingexperts.com tips & compare with this scam guy its the same! LOL
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