Topic: BFL ASIC STATUS 5/29 - page 3. (Read 5553 times)

Only if you are smart on how, when and where you mine.

It's safe to say that most Avalon owners are well into 5 figures. They should be into 6 figures by...a while from now.

Thats like comparing a multi-billion dollar...NASA engineered hardware with something some guy made in his garage with duct tape. If the wind blows, it will fall over immediately and explode.

FTFY.

Erk got owned 

When people want to smear something, they will twist any feature or point to the negative even if it means becoming obviously hypocritical. Just watch politicians during an election campaign, all ethics goes out the window.

LOL Oh man I can't believe people sometimes. BFL is priced too low, so they must be mining to compensate. ASICMiner is priced too high, but they are blatantly mining on the hardware before they sell it (currently at what, 30TH/s?).

Love it.

I got my refund and I feel soooooo good 

Easyminer  photo at 52GH/s showing 58C temp with case on.




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And the carbon monoxide?

EXACTLY.  I would put a V12 in a room in my house and feed it gas daily if it mined enough.  Oil leaks, exhaust and all.

Both of these comments are comparing apples to oranges..

This situation is more like "When your meth addicted friends tells you on a monthly basis that he "is clean now" and "I'm never going to touch that stuff again".  It may be true at the time... and it may be his/her intention.  But after the 4th, 5th, 20th time they do it, you just nod your head and say "Good for you" all the while not really believing that this will be the reality.  

..The people who did not order BFL, or cancelled their orders are the people who don't really have a relationship with that person, and say in a very blunt way "whatever, you'll fall off the wagon soon enough", and even at times would rather see them fail so they won't have to deal with seeing them later on.  The people who do have orders with BFL are like the friends or family of that person.  They don't really believe it will happen, or believe in the timing, but only hope that one day what they say comes true.

I personally think the company doesn't really plan for the setbacks, and when given an expectation by a vendor (say 1-2 weeks), they tell their customer base "1 WEEK!".  By now it is at the 7-8 month mark, but they are still going.  The way I figure it is, if the company was a true scam, they would have taken the money already and moved on to a new scam.  This is beyond the meaning of "long con".  The only thing that will tell is time.  I could see a possibility that they take too long, and only a handful of people getting these devices while they are still profitable.  That would be my personal opinion of a "worst case scenario".  At that point either they can get back several returns until they file bankruptcy, and at that point, everyone looses their money that still have not received their product.  Best case scenario is within the next 2 weeks they get anywhere CLOSE to shipping out to their reported amount of 400 per day.  I have this sneaking suspicion that the reality will probably somewhere in between.

I don't know how you're coming to your conclusions regarding their QA standards. I think it's a fair assessment to say that their CS pretty well sucks balls, but the big complaint that I hear from most people is that they are spending too much time on QA, and delaying shipment as a result.

Just because a company is lacking in the Customer Service department doesn't say anything negative about their quality assurance. And conversely, having great customer service does not say anything positive about quality assurance. I never heard anything about any serious QA issues with their FPGA miners. In fact, pretty much everything I've seen was that they were a great product. Which refutes your assertion that their QA sucks (or that they're ignorant of it altogether).

Hate BFL as much as you want. But making statements about their QA standards, without a shred of evidence, is talking out your ass. Then again, talking out your ass seems to be one of the key tenets of the He Man BFL Haters Club...  

Its not gpu and that is a open case. I guess what's a case closed.w

Fortunately, ugly pays the bills.  Pretty stays poor forever.

ITT fired janitor knows best.

I do. The idea is to distribute the network fairly amongst those willing to adopt the concept before one entity becomes so powerful it can claim ownership of the network.

Selling the price a blade would earn in year, when it is most likely obsolete is akin to lending BFL monies for a year to be given a product that is most likely obsolete. People in this forum seem to like this method when the chips themselves cost significant NRE, followed by pennies to a handful of dollars each, but then I can see why ASiC miner and Avalon welcome 5000% profit. Few industries will give companies such obscene profits and give you that time wastage and minimal returns...oh wait the current banking system.

The way AM is selling blades is something that makes sense - selling with a price a blade would earn (maybe) in a year.
BFL or KNCMiner model is something I don't understand.

I used to work for NVIDIA. Believe me, they do.