Topic: BFL batch 1 & 2 customers: Do you really wanna have a ticking time bomb? - page 2. (Read 3273 times)

I just image Josh having to pay the UL office a visit  

UL clerk: "Please sir, tell me something about your power supply."
Josh: "It's drawing 160 watts, the power regulator is only rated for 1/3 of that. But don't worry, the next unit will have 2 regulators."
UL clerk: "Um ... next please!!"

Honestly, with BFL's track record of keeping promises...I would get a refund, buy bitcoins, or order an AVALON.

BFL isn't going to ship anytime soon.

Now you have me a little worried.  I actually thought they would be shipping in a week or two.  Can anyone tell me if this has to pass UL certification before shipping?   Since it is made in the USA I would assume it would have to (since even my desk lamp that cost $9.99 at walmart has that sticker).    How long does that cert take?   Surely, it does not just take a day or two?

Favorite quote from the video:

"It's drawing 160 watts, the power regulator is only rated for 1/3 of that. But don't worry, the next unit will have 2 regulators."

Time to pick up a few fire extinguishers!

That's very sad. BFL is such a reputable company serving their customers with a top notch customer service and still some people publicly rant on them  

And no matter what BFL does to its investors you will be there to lick their balls and help get people on the scam-band wagon.  

Edit: Yes I am a loser that was able to make over 2000% gains by using bitcoins to buy litecoins and trade back and forth, while you suckers wait on BFL's every word like they are god. lol so fail...

Haha, you guys are just two fucking losers. No matter what BFL does, there will be a new thread full of shit with you two assholes running your mouths.

Nightly News Headline: "Bitcoin miner burns apartment building down due to over heating chips in a device designed by Butterfly Labs."


 

Is it worth it guys?

All quotes from BFL_Josh, 29th Mar 2013: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b8hvt/bfl_josh_updates_on_asic_status_full_transcript/

Performance: "If the cooling becomes an issue, like I said, we'd scale it back and ship multiple units."
-> there goes another one of BFLs promises down the drain: the superb overvlocking ability


Power consumption: "... it's not 1w/GH and we're trying to locate the source of the power drain. It may require a revision of the substrate and/or the PCB."
-> it seems batch #1 and #2 customers get nothing more than a prototype because some major corrections/redesigns might be necessary for the next batches


Guinea pigs: "... I'm thinking no one is going to care at the moment they just want to hash. Which is why we'll be shipping and then improving as we go."
-> Yeah, that's what cowboys do: shoot first - think later


Prototype: It seems BFL finally managed to get something like a prototype up and running: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C4bgho5JSI
Originally advertised values for a Single SC: 40 Watt while hashing (at 40GHash/s).
Actual values for this little prototype board (with unknown hashrate): 42 Watt idle (!!), 160 Watt when hashing


Stability: "We are trying to nail it down. We have some boards at 1.76w, some at 2.5 and some at 4 and one at 6 ... What's causing even more consternation is the fact that the wafer we burned for tests runs at far less power than a second wafer we mounted on the BGA package... so it may be a wafer by wafer thing, and since we only have two datapoints, it's hard to nail down the issue. We're rolling the other 4 wafers off the line shortly (they may be done already I think) - and that will at least give us an idea of the power consumption between wafers with 6 data points."
-> unpredictable behaviour of the devices (intermittent errors, the worst that can happen in engineering, because it makes it especially hard to track down the source of error)


Long-term testing: Unknown. The devices might run fine for years - or blow up after a few hours. No one knows ...


Good luck with that, batch #1 and #2 customers! To reach break even in a reasonable time your ASIC devices have to run stable 24 hours a day, 7 days per week. Or at least don't blow up due to overheating after 10 minutes ...