Topic: {BFL} Newbies PLEASE READ! ~ Least reliable ASIC company? - page 5. (Read 10326 times)

I think the poll results are wrong.  BFL is highly reliable.  I know I can rely on them to be about 6 months late delivering any new product line.

I'm sure I'll be able to rely on them again when it comes to Monarch delivery.

Darin M. "Bicknellski" Bicknell has tried to run several companies.  After being turned down legally in his native Canada to start a school and being unable to hold down a job for more than a year, he was forced to flee to Indonesia to create an illegal "school" for children.  He is currently actively trying to scam people with his bitcoin mining companies, lets take a look at them according to his list:


Was completely unable to deliver on his first attempt, even though all parts were supplied by someone else.  This is an infinite delay.
Is now currently delayed for his new "modular" junk miners that don't even function and you have to build it yourself, though he's still trying to run a pre-order scam.

Failed to delivery a single working device after numerous promises.

Advertised for working mining devices, failed to deliver a single one.

Has no customer service people.

Maintains open line of communication, which is required to run a scam such as the Hive & Wasp, as well as the "Big Picture Mining" scam.

Finally refunded people after it was clear he was completely unable to deliver on his "Big Picture Mining" scam.  Held on to peoples funds for a period of time, using those funds to enrich himself through trading and arbitrage.


Failed to set a clear shipping date, but even without setting a clear date was unable to ship a single product.

Who knows?

I'm sure those people who finally got a refund after losing the opportunity cost of "purchasing" from Darin M. Bicknell are happy as clams.

Has no engineers and can not even deliver a product where all components are designed, programmed and manufactured by someone else.

Has no product, so reliability isn't a concern.  Has no engineers, so no engineering has been done.


Has no shipped product, so no additional hours are required.  His new Hive and Wasp require extensive engineering capabilities to even get functioning (Supply your own chips!).  LOL

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Wow, so Darin can't even satisfy a single point of his list, and he's run two failed ventures so far and he continues to scam people out of BTC.  Yep, real upstanding guy there, that Darin M. Bicknell. Quality fellow!  Runs an illegal school in Indonesia and runs BTC hardware scams on the side, all the while trolling his "competition" with lies and misinformation.  Awesome guy!

I'd still rather get what I ordered late than half my money back.  And they gave refunds until June and very publicly stated that they were stopping refunds to enter production.

The shipped very late with both the FPGAs and ASICs and they are still months behind in shipping.
Their products specs were changed many times and missed their power numbers.
They have not provided refunds to their customers who wanted them contrary to FTC regulations.
Their customers service can best be described as unreliable.


And the list goes on.

That would be a clear indication why the majority of people voted for BFL being the LEAST reliable. Makes perfect sense.

Here is where you want to go to SING the praises of BFL... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/most-reliable-company-342455

Funny they have 0 votes there.. and 200 here... I guess there are lot more people willing to voice opinion about their LACK of Reliability here than those "satisfied" like you are.

I didn't buy Terrahash, but here's the outcome if I had:
Hashrate delivered

Company	Hashrate delivered and running
BFL	540GH/s
Terrahash	0GH/s

So, it comes down to what "reliable" means.  LOTS of BFL customers are hashing with their hardware, and ZERO Terrahash customers are hashing with their hardware.  Sure, BFL was super-late, possibly lied through the process, produced a few duds (I have a slow one myself), produced and shipped units REALLY slowly, but in the end, they did deliver, and I'd say that's more reliable in the end than a company that goes under and can't even fully refund everyone.  Of course, you're right that there's just more BFL customers, so maybe proportionally Terrahash customers are more upset about Terrahash than BFL.  All of my BFL hardware has more than ROI'ed in USD (yeah yeah I know it will never ROI in BTC opportunity cost).

Of course, you could say Terrahash's statements were more reliable than BFLs - I agree there.  It's just that one of those statements was "we're done and you don't get your money back."  That is a pretty reliable statement.

Not everyone bought terrahash... did they?

Given that though seems like BFL is winner for any number of failings.

Shipping dates, failed specs, rma issues, refund issues, lack of ethics etc etc etc and pretty much the general discord they have sown in the community literally makes people want to click that radio button for them more than others right?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3670426 <--- some areas to consider in terms of reliability beyond the hardware and more to do with the company over all.

How is terrahash not winning this poll?  BFL shipped, Terrahash can't even refund half of customer's money.  We're talking about reliability here, not lateness.

Avalon was the only one that delays caused me to lose out. BFL actually came through for me enough to make my ROI, but in no way do I condone their highly unscrupulous business practices at all.

Wonder why one company draws so many votes?

Please keep on voting your vote counts :!)

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He does not want none this!!  

I humbly submit that the company that is the least reliable in this poll does NOT do the following things... in fact in most cases they do the exact opposite.

Build Trust - Establish and maintain a positive track record in the marketplace.

Advertise Honestly - Adhere to established standards of advertising and selling.

Tell the Truth - Honestly represent products and services, including clear and adequate disclosures of all material terms.

Be Transparent - Openly identify the nature, location, and ownership of the business, and clearly disclose all policies, guarantees and procedures that bear on a customer’s decision to buy.

Honor Promises - Abide by all written agreements and verbal representations.

Be Responsive - Address marketplace disputes quickly, professionally, and in good faith.

Safeguard Privacy - Protect any data collected against mishandling and fraud, collect personal information only as needed, and respect the preferences of consumers regarding the use of their information.

Embody Integrity - Approach all business dealings, marketplace transactions and commitments with integrity.

Where is that cockroach Incubus?

Any more votes

Vote for the least reliable company? Cointerra  1 (0.5%)
Kncminer  5 (2.7%)
Hashfast  6 (3.2%)
butterfly labs  152 (81.3%)
Terrahash  11 (5.9%)
Avalon  12 (6.4%)
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Total Voters: 187

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Butterfly is in the lead! 

Vote for the least reliable company? Cointerra  0 (0%)
Kncminer  4 (2.3%)
Hashfast  6 (3.4%)
butterfly labs  144 (82.3%)
Terrahash  10 (5.7%)
Avalon  11 (6.3%)
 
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BFL has to win the award for stringing people along for the longest time.

It was two months away from delivery for over a year!   That's gotta be some kind of world record?

I wonder how many buyers sued for loss of production?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consequential_damages

What for? For vote what people votes? I think is better hidden.

Question:    Vote for the least reliable company?
Cointerra   - 0 (0%)
Kncminer   - 4 (2.6%)
Hashfast   - 4 (2.6%)
butterfly labs   - 126 (81.8%)
Terrahash   - 10 (6.5%)
Avalon   - 10 (6.5%)
Total Voters: 154