As a newbie, I've decided to go for the BFL Jalapeno. It is much cheaper than any of the the Avalon products (in terms of outlay and dipping the toes into the water, so to speak). Also, the UK customs charges will be an issue with buying something expensive from outside the EU.
I'm not expecting to ever break even on the hardware costs as the big boys will have thousands of dollars to spend on the higher end rigs, but I do hope that as I ordered the Jalapeno yesterday, it will arrive before it becomes completely obsolete! If the order number is any indication of the number in the queue, at 19XXX, it may prove to be a fool's errand! Hope not though.
Topic: BFL or Avalon (Read 1689 times)
I went with BFL, but is more because of my personal situation than anything else. I was gonna buy 2-3 Jalapenos, but had it in the budget mid January to put in an order for the little single SC. That gives me the most bang for my buck, even being a little over budget. If they additional shipping delays I'm confident I can get a refund a few months down the line when I would need the money more. It also seemed that the "little" single was a recent addition, so I'm not sure if it would give me a better chance of receiving it sooner.
I agree with the sentiment to buy both and spread some risk around. I don't just mean the "which one will get a machine to you first" risk, but also longer term reliability and support. If you have both you do add complexity to management of course, but you also have hedged yourself against something like shoddy quality. Frankly I wouldn't worry about complexity issues much unless you're buying 10+ machines where you do have to start worrying about things like the power lines you're plugging everything into.
(I'm all BFL, but as soon as Avalon opens for the next batch of ordering I'll be investing in them as well and practicing what I preach, above).
(I'm all BFL, but as soon as Avalon opens for the next batch of ordering I'll be investing in them as well and practicing what I preach, above).
...user submitted order information. It's only there if you post your order info on the forum.
BFL didn't post any of it.
BFL didn't post any of it.
Okay thanks, that's better. I think it's great to let everyone have an idea of the H/s that are coming online, but it wasn't clear to me that all of the info was submitted by users. I should have paid more attention.
Lol, I just noticed, BFL have posted the queue, including customer ID's good grief.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685
That is a list of user submitted order information. It's only there if you post your order info on the forum.
BFL didn't post any of it.
My prediction is that BFLs will start shipping early March.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
It would be nice to know what the queue looks like. In fact, without knowing where you stand in the queue, you're just gambling/hoping that yours will be delivered before too many others' come online and radically change the profitability.
Well, to give you a basic idea, I pre-ordered a Jalapeno yesterday (Feb 2nd) and I'm order #18622.
Lol, I just noticed, BFL have posted the queue, including customer ID's good grief.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wait-list-bfl-sc-pre-order-information-monarch-orders-too-89685
I've read that Avalon has re-opened orders, and then their store goes down immediately, again? This is nuts.
I'm sorry, but there is just no such thing as a lifetime warranty, maybe if a few of them go tits up; but, if the whole lot were to say, burn up a few weeks/months out of the box? There is no way.
I can only imagine how it has been for those who placed early preorders. But I am sure they will forget all about the wait when they turn their ASIC on before the difficulty shoots up.
What do you expect the difficulty to be say.... Mid April?
I can only imagine how it has been for those who placed early preorders. But I am sure they will forget all about the wait when they turn their ASIC on before the difficulty shoots up.
Well, to give you a basic idea, I pre-ordered a Jalapeno yesterday (Feb 2nd) and I'm order #18622.
Thanks for posting! I hope that doesn't mean that there are 18,000-ish people ahead of us, with no telling how many machines per order.
Avalon only accepts BTC as payment, while BFL has BTC, bankwire transfer, or Paypal. I go with BFL if they'll release their ASICs since I'm interested in the Jalapeno, which looks like a Mac Mini.
My prediction is that BFLs will start shipping early March.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
It would be nice to know what the queue looks like. In fact, without knowing where you stand in the queue, you're just gambling/hoping that yours will be delivered before too many others' come online and radically change the profitability.
Well, to give you a basic idea, I pre-ordered a Jalapeno yesterday (Feb 2nd) and I'm order #18622.
My prediction is that BFLs will start shipping early March.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
It would be nice to know what the queue looks like. In fact, without knowing where you stand in the queue, you're just gambling/hoping that yours will be delivered before too many others' come online and radically change the profitability.
The most sensible thing is to order from both... if you can.
Yup getting one sooner is much better than getting one later.
My prediction is that BFLs will start shipping early March.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
Josh keeps backing up a week from his Feb 10th date, so I wouldn't be surprised to see another week tacked on top of that. At the very least, he has said that he will be giving people vouchers/gifts as a result of being so late, I'm going to assume this only applies to the way early june/july 2012 pre-orders.
At this stage, Avalon seems to be the better bet between both of them. That's subject to change if BFL successfully ships, of course.
The most sensible thing is to order from both... if you can.
Well, I too tried to purchase an Avalon Batch #2.. but needless to say I did not score. I ended up with 3 ASIC miners in my cart at one point, and the total was 0.7 BTC (I believe), but I knew that not to be correct so didn't proceed any further.
I really wish I had secured myself an Avalon for the month of March - it's just around the corner (February is always short).
Sigh.
I really wish I had secured myself an Avalon for the month of March - it's just around the corner (February is always short).
Sigh.
I read all of Josh's posts and he seems like a pretty sincere dude.
Lol, everything I've read from Josh makes him sound like a no-class whiner. It sounds like he'll eventually deliver an ASIC-based machine; but that latest update he gave was nothing but FUD and ad homs against Avalon, and excuses as to why it was anyone's fault but his own that his schedule was slipping.
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