BFL progress.. Should I sell my Avalon's. Any feedback would be appreciated!

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Quote from: Askit2 on April 03, 2013, 02:06:36 PM

Quote from: Gator-hex on April 03, 2013, 10:00:50 AM

If BFL started shipping 31st April, like they claim,

and they can produce 400 a day, like they claim,

then there should be 1200 happy BFL owners today? Huh

I really hope you ment March 31st as April 31st is not a day that exists and is still 28 days away. The cleverly disguise April 31st as May 1st....

Yup, put 1st April, then edit fail on 31st March. Roll Eyes

I would love it if BFL had a working ASIC to send us but I suspect 25GH/s (link below) may just be their old FPGA Mini Rig mining.

http://eligius.st/~wizkid057/newstats/userstats.php/1CdcYVP4T4hjHwt353pEnGHrigeDLvuvZL

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Quote from: Gator-hex on April 03, 2013, 10:00:50 AM

If BFL started shipping 31st April, like they claim,

and they can produce 400 a day, like they claim,

then there should be 1200 happy BFL owners today? Huh

I really hope you ment March 31st as April 31st is not a day that exists and is still 28 days away. The cleverly disguise April 31st as May 1st....

Rampion

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As you said in OP: it's not only about the money.

And in any case you will have a nice return.

So keep the damn things! Wink

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Quote from: cablepair on March 30, 2013, 01:36:38 AM

there are only two good investments involving bitcoin right now. Either buy Avalon or Buy Bitcoins - these are the only winning options at this current time.

The best option is to pre-order for 190 BTC by ASIC vaporware and return 15 BTC.

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Quote from: Vagnavs on March 29, 2013, 11:21:10 PM

Hello,
with BFL recent news of their product possibly becoming a reality. Would I be advised to sell my Avalon batch #2 and #3. Any feedback would be great!

note: I still do want to mine bitcoins and isn't all about money

[conflict of interest] Shrugs, not sure. PM me. [/conflict of interest]

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Quote from: nagnagnag2 on March 30, 2013, 12:32:36 PM

Quote from: Miner99er on March 30, 2013, 03:37:38 AM

and that's able to dissipate 125 watts at full tilt.

at this moment its drawing 160 watts.

160 - 125 = 35 Watts to much.

160w is wall current, with an overloaded power brick and severely overloaded vcore regulators. Certainly a far cry from their 30w target for a device running at 30gh/s but a board respin with properly sized vcore regulators will improve efficiency and a better power brick would increase efficiency as well.

Their heatsink is probably capable of 120w tdp as others have said since it appears similar to amd's heat pipe sink for their hotter chips. It won't be quiet though.

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Money is the root of all evil.

As many others said, keep them and keep hashing..

Gator-hex

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If BFL started shipping 31st March, like they claim,

and they can produce 400 a day, like they claim,

then there should be 1200 happy BFL owners today? Huh

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Quote from: Rodyland on March 31, 2013, 12:55:39 AM

Sell Sell Sell! You should count yourself lucky if you manage to get your fiat back as a price, because those BFLs that are going to ship any day now are going to make your rig worthless.

PM me with your prices.

That was rude due why are you putting so much stress on the guy

Keep them!

Rodyland

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Sell Sell Sell! You should count yourself lucky if you manage to get your fiat back as a price, because those BFLs that are going to ship any day now are going to make your rig worthless.

PM me with your prices.

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Quote from: Bogart on March 30, 2013, 12:53:46 PM

Quote from: BBQKorv on March 30, 2013, 03:40:17 AM

If you happen to have in hand Avalons you can most likely ask +10k$ and get that money too.

I was offered $10k, and then $20k for mine. I said no both times.

+1 even i have no pending offers yet:)

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Quote from: BBQKorv on March 30, 2013, 03:40:17 AM

If you happen to have in hand Avalons you can most likely ask +10k$ and get that money too.

I was offered $10k, and then $20k for mine. I said no both times.

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Quote from: Miner99er on March 30, 2013, 03:37:38 AM

No matter how you re-size it, that still looks like an OEM CPU cooler for one of AMD's high end CPUs... and that's able to dissipate 125 watts at full tilt.

... by the way: To cool a 125 Watt CPU I would use water, or at least something like this here:

Not sure how much heat the BFL heatsink can dissipate. But I highly doubt it's 160 Watt or even 120 Watt.

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Quote from: Miner99er on March 30, 2013, 03:37:38 AM

and that's able to dissipate 125 watts at full tilt.

at this moment its drawing 160 watts.

160 - 125 = 35 Watts to much.

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Casings, boards, fans, heatsinks - everything is already built. If they take bigger heatsinks and fans they won't fit in the casings anymore.

Looks like somebody got everything needed to raise chickens, but when the animals arrived they realized they were in the skunk business, thus needing different sized pens and larger fans.

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Quote from: Miner99er on March 30, 2013, 03:37:38 AM

Hey Frizz, they ARE working on it... and I sincerely doubt they'll ship a product that ends up like the pic you posted.

Casings, boards, fans, heatsinks - everything is already built. If they take bigger heatsinks and fans they won't fit in the casings anymore.

What do you think they're gonna do?
(a) throw all that stuff away
or
(b) reduce the hashing power per unit

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No matter how you re-size it, that still looks like an OEM CPU cooler for one of AMD's high end CPUs...

No - my picture shows no CPU cooler. It's taken from bitcoinmagazine.com and from BFL's own website:

https://forums.butterflylabs.com/content/attachments/176d1352245075-copp.jpg.html

Vagnavs

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Hello,
I was mostly thinking of the increased difficulty if BFL actually ships.. Not that I would want to buy a BFL unit

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If you happen to have in hand Avalons you can most likely ask +10k$ and get that money too.

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Hey Frizz, they ARE working on it... and I sincerely doubt they'll ship a product that ends up like the pic you posted.

No matter how you re-size it, that still looks like an OEM CPU cooler for one of AMD's high end CPUs... and that's able to dissipate 125 watts at full tilt.

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Quote from: Vagnavs on March 29, 2013, 11:21:10 PM

Hello,
with BFL recent news of their product possibly becoming a reality.

Ask yourself this question: Do you wanna have this:

BFL_Josh: "We have some boards at 1.76w, some at 2.5 and some at 4 and one at 6 <- although I think the ones at 4 and 6 have either a broken power regulator and/or a bad power brick, because they power brick is only 120w and it's drawing like 195 watts which is ridiculous. ..."

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1b8hvt/bfl_josh_updates_on_asic_status_full_transcript/

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