Well, this thread got ugly fast.
Neo, wow, horrible. Reported immediately.
The rest of you guys, sure, we're frustrated but take it to IDK, maybe a "Why I hate BFL" thread. This one's for updates only.
ooo a nifty lock button. Shoo, gentleman. We're done here.
Topic: BFL Update - 3-1-13 (Read 12157 times)
They got no product, yet.
Really? Thank you detective pinger..
Of course they got, they are burning them winning all the BTC they can before shipping their ASICS
They got no product, yet.
Really? Thank you detective pinger..
They got no product, yet.
I feel bad for the other guys. He's watching Btc going to 35 dollars and he can't mine them.
Alas my question is still unanswered..........idle
Josh's silence on the matter of why delays happened in November and December will continue.
Josh knows they messed up. If they told the truth in 2012 they would not have as much preorder customer money as they do now.
It's a ponzi scheme. No product just promises to deliver. But they can "offer refunds". Just not to 100% of their customers.
Then you should probably not order one then. Might be a good idea to stop trolling the forums and get some fresh air for a change as well. The only scam is the bs timelines and changing their order policy after people paid for products. I would have made enough money to purchase a nice home off the new btc price had I not given it to them. If I find out Joe Bob ordered yesterday and got his unit after I paid 11 months ago, I will be using the rest of my money to hire some lawyers.
My October 2012 order was my first miner. I'm just getting into this and learning. I'm so pissed cus I was gonna buy the BTCFPGA units and mine with that but this fucken asic bull shit got me waiting and still am.
I have been in the mean time I been learning to run every miner out there in Linux and windows on my bullshit acer aspire one laptop that gives me 2.3 khs rate.
For fuck sakes I can't even buy a computer and build one to mine cuz any fucken second the asics are coming.
I been in limbo for 5 months now and bored out my skull. Then BTC goes to 33 and my jaw drops.
BFL Y U NO SHIP?
I feel bad for the other guys. He's watching Btc going to 35 dollars and he can't mine them.
Alas my question is still unanswered..........idle
Josh's silence on the matter of why delays happened in November and December will continue.
Josh knows they messed up. If they told the truth in 2012 they would not have as much preorder customer money as they do now.
It's a ponzi scheme. No product just promises to deliver. But they can "offer refunds". Just not to 100% of their customers.
Then you should probably not order one then. Might be a good idea to stop trolling the forums and get some fresh air for a change as well. The only scam is the bs timelines and changing their order policy after people paid for products. I would have made enough money to purchase a nice home off the new btc price had I not given it to them. If I find out Joe Bob ordered yesterday and got his unit after I paid 11 months ago, I will be using the rest of my money to hire some lawyers.
I feel bad for the other guys. He's watching Btc going to 35 dollars and he can't mine them.
Alas my question is still unanswered..........idle
Josh's silence on the matter of why delays happened in November and December will continue.
Josh knows they messed up. If they told the truth in 2012 they would not have as much preorder customer money as they do now.
It's a ponzi scheme. No product just promises to deliver. But they can "offer refunds". Just not to 100% of their customers.
I feel bad for the other guys. He's watching Btc going to 35 dollars and he can't mine them.
Alas my question is still unanswered..........idle
I would like to point out that is do feel it was intentional to announce their ASIC way early without the estimated delivery time being realistic. The effect was to scare potential competitors. I know how I felt when it was announced that day. I was like "so soon?" and "man, they are going to lock it down 
". Being this late is inexcusable as a fluke.
". Being this late is inexcusable as a fluke. 
Is this table accurate or not Josh?
So probably April - July for current orders?
So probably April - July for current orders?
Josh is on record predicting earlier deliveries. He knows they can't reach that date, but he'll leave that up for customers as long as possible so they don't request refunds. Eventually he'll push it back.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/1084-if-i-order-now-when-will-i-get-my-order.html
Quote from: BFL_Josh
The currently estimated shipping time frame if you were to order today is the end of April or Beginning of May.
Swell. Cuz BFL is such a huge company that CS and the COO cannot hand out the same estimates?
...or because they can then mislead and say "well we got our wires crossed". They did this with the defective, but not defective chips.
Is this table accurate or not Josh?
So probably April - July for current orders?
So probably April - July for current orders?
Josh is on record predicting earlier deliveries. He knows they can't reach that date, but he'll leave that up for customers as long as possible so they don't request refunds. Eventually he'll push it back.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/1084-if-i-order-now-when-will-i-get-my-order.html
Quote from: BFL_Josh
The currently estimated shipping time frame if you were to order today is the end of April or Beginning of May.
He's talking about Yajaira aka PuertoLibre the habitual liar. He's a down and out 56 year old computer "repair" man that runs his shop (QuickFix Computers), who "Only sporadically posts in the BFL threads"*
* For definitions of sporadically that are > 85% (17 of 20 threads).
Joshua, should I post your phone number as we compete? * For definitions of sporadically that are > 85% (17 of 20 threads).
(Tit for tat?)
Your info is not even that accurate but let me know if you'd like to compare notes.
By all means, my information is public already. I don't hide behind pseudononymity on the internet, slinging insults and lies at people. ...
What you do is posture as the face of a legitimate business.
You sling crap back at anyone that disagrees with you or points out your blantant failures.
And you fail to answer the questions that need answering like above. Why would you folks put up a date of shipping 2012 when in fact things are what they are now?
My guess, given you are too big a wussy to answer, is that you folks knew you werent going to be able to ship in 2012 and if you did admit that your business would not have gotten as much preorder money as it has from November to now.
Stop being a little boy and come out and say what needs to be said and answer questions that need to be answered.
As you will notice Inaba will address all other comments except for those that expose what really happened back in November and December for him to go back on his word of shipping date(s).
Inaba is full of it. He will never address the real questions people want answers to...like perhaps BFL balance sheets for investors (those who pre-ordered up until today).
Yes all "PRE-ORER CUSTOMERS" = INVESTORS
I reaaly don't think you care enough to answer my own question here but I have to ask.
Question:
When I ordered my miner in Oct 11 and you were saying that shipping could be possible in Late Dec how would that be possible when you just ordered benches and recently furbished and moved into a new location?
How could you assume that you would be able to handle the backlog of orders when you were moving and establishing at the same time?
Inaba is full of it. He will never address the real questions people want answers to...like perhaps BFL balance sheets for investors (those who pre-ordered up until today).
Yes all "PRE-ORER CUSTOMERS" = INVESTORS
Imma just leave this here...
I have long been tired of it. I only come on these days to read up on Avalon and when I will receive mine.
I only sporadically post in the BFL threads anymore. I don't think anyone does actually.
I work on my computer at different times of the day and have multiple monitors to track different business. So when I get around to it, I leave one window open and that's how I notice the "going on's".
Like I mentioned before, the other turd is not interesting anymore. Avalons shipping is seemingly gonna take a while so there is not really much to check up on.
If you check my recent posting I barely bother with the come backs anymore. It just seems like a waste of time these days.
So that keeps my temperament/venting in check as I keep checking for updates at different times of day and night. I expect the units will be arriving soon as the Customs backlog clears.
@puertolibre a personal question. even though i am a bfl customer and dont even know if i receive a paid (09/2012)product this year ( it sucks , yes i know it ...) , havent YOU got tired of all this? I mean all the mocking and all of the endless arguing with that unbelievable person (i have worst worst for it but maybe another time) ...
I have long been tired of it. I only come on these days to read up on Avalon and when I will receive mine.
I only sporadically post in the BFL threads anymore. I don't think anyone does actually.
I work on my computer at different times of the day and have multiple monitors to track different business. So when I get around to it, I leave one window open and that's how I notice the "going on's".
Like I mentioned before, the other turd is not interesting anymore. Avalons shipping is seemingly gonna take a while so there is not really much to check up on.
If you check my recent posting I barely bother with the come backs anymore. It just seems like a waste of time these days.
So that keeps my temperament/venting in check as I keep checking for updates at different times of day and night. I expect the units will be arriving soon as the Customs backlog clears.
I reaaly don't think you care enough to answer my own question here but I have to ask.
Question:
When I ordered my miner in Oct 11 and you were saying that shipping could be possible in Late Dec how would that be possible when you just ordered benches and recently furbished and moved into a new location?
How could you assume that you would be able to handle the backlog of orders when you were moving and establishing at the same time?
Oh I see... so now it's "I just participate in the most active threads." Right... love that revisionist history you spew there... caught in another lie and your retard shield goes into overdrive. Dude, if you're going to lie, at least get good at it. You're so pathetic at it you can't even keep your story straight in the same thread, much less between threads.
Next time you ought to give him a BTC.
Coming from the same guy that threatened to write a script to stalk my every post and repost it elsewhere. The same guy that posts things from the BFL forum on Bitcointalk seconds after they are posted on the BFL forums. Yes... creepy.
Oh, you are still upset at that. The destination was only one of two places. Somehow, Yajaira, I think even Bryan Micon might be better at it than you, and look what people think of him.
You mean the guy who made some website where he went into details about you and how your brother was gay? Creepy guy indeed.Next time you ought to give him a BTC.
Coming from the same guy that threatened to write a script to stalk my every post and repost it elsewhere. The same guy that posts things from the BFL forum on Bitcointalk seconds after they are posted on the BFL forums. Yes... creepy.
[email protected]
Or
Butterflylabs forum.
I recall you freaked the crap out. Was that before you told me I was beautiful after you pulled my emailed complaint or before? I am old so my memory is hazy. I recall it was after you gave me permission and told everyone that you felt like a celebrity. (Until you found out it was going to your inbox. Hah.)
Anyway, got to do work, so have a field day posting any number of obscenities. (well if Theymos doesn't beat you silly).
Just want to quote this so when/if it's change later, we can try to develop a "PuertoLibre to English" translation system. I have NFC what you are even trying to write here. Knickers in a twist? Having trouble articulating yourself through your rage haze?
For fuck's sake.
Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
+21,000,000Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
I know some of you love trolling and fighting back and forth and believe me when I say I sincerely find most of it humorous, but dragging people's families and personal info into it is very unnecessary.
I'm going to have to concur also, but not the poodle or, for that matter, Jody's chicken. Fair game (possibly, pun intended)!
Is this table accurate or not Josh?
So probably April - July for current orders?
So probably April - July for current orders?
I think that once the Avalons start to ship on mass, if that table is correct, then there will be a compaction of the orders.
The difficulty is already up > 10million and the PPs is down nearly 30%, and we are only just scratching the surface on shipped ASICS.......
For fuck's sake.
Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
+21,000,000Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
I know some of you love trolling and fighting back and forth and believe me when I say I sincerely find most of it humorous, but dragging people's families and personal info into it is very unnecessary.
At least someone now knows hiding behind screen aint working .
The fcker got pwn!
For fuck's sake.
Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
+21,000,000Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
I know some of you love trolling and fighting back and forth and believe me when I say I sincerely find most of it humorous, but dragging people's families and personal info into it is very unnecessary.
For fuck's sake.
Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
Can we just leave spouses, children, and other family members not actively involved in BFL out of this? I know I took a cheap shot at Josh's poodle, but this is a whole new level of insanity.
Is this table accurate or not Josh?
So probably April - July for current orders?
So probably April - July for current orders?
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