Biblepay - 1.0.8.9 - Leisure Upgrade
- Downgraded protocol version back to 70715
- Now all users can vote in prod again
** TESTED SUCCESSFULLY! I was able to vote on a proposal in prod.
** NOTE: ALL Testnet Users, Please upgrade to 1.0.8.9, we all need to be on 70715 to sync **
Topic: BiblePay | 10% to Orphan-Charity | RANDOMX MINING | Sanctuaries (Masternodes) - page 646. (Read 243376 times)
February 09, 2018, 01:49:23 PM
February 09, 2018, 01:46:37 PM
Something strange is going on with the pool shares and logical machines.
Also, over 20% of my miners are now in the "My Missing Miners" section.
Yeah, last night I raised the minimum difficulty of the pool by 100% per share, as I thought too many small miners were solving shares.
Ok, I lowered it to in-between the old level and the new level. Please monitor this going forward.
Wait I don't get it isn't difficulty set by network?
Yes for a solo mined block.
But for pool mined blocks, no, its set by the pool. Everyone receives the same share difficulty however, so its all relative.
February 09, 2018, 01:41:52 PM
Its time to do more advertising/marketing now that we have an open exchange!
Anyone have advertising/marketing ideas?
Articles, Ads (Google, Facebook, etc), Bitcointalk posts and signatures, Inforgraphics (slidedeck), etc
How can we spread the word?
BiblePay Unofficial TODO List: https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7v0pxz/todo_list/
With Sanctuary (Masternode) system with monthly budget,
Anyone can propose work to do and be funded in BiblePay coins!
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Create_Sanctuary_2#SUBMIT_PROPOSAL
Anyone have advertising/marketing ideas?
Articles, Ads (Google, Facebook, etc), Bitcointalk posts and signatures, Inforgraphics (slidedeck), etc
How can we spread the word?
BiblePay Unofficial TODO List: https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7v0pxz/todo_list/
With Sanctuary (Masternode) system with monthly budget,
Anyone can propose work to do and be funded in BiblePay coins!
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Create_Sanctuary_2#SUBMIT_PROPOSAL
February 09, 2018, 01:37:14 PM
As I said. Daily BBP volume on SouthXchange is cca. 200 USD. Useless.
southXchange only provides the trading platform, the BBP community has to provide volume/liquidity.
February 09, 2018, 01:33:15 PM
Any know how to get CPU usage down on Vultr VPS service when running BBP wallets, they have limited my instances due to excess CPU usage. Do I need to decrease genprolimit to 1 when running BBP wallet to get <100% CPU usage.
You can try but when I tried it it was still ~98% or so.
They probably will accept 98%, so setting at 1 will likely work.
February 09, 2018, 01:31:46 PM
Something strange is going on with the pool shares and logical machines.
Also, over 20% of my miners are now in the "My Missing Miners" section.
Yeah, last night I raised the minimum difficulty of the pool by 100% per share, as I thought too many small miners were solving shares.
Ok, I lowered it to in-between the old level and the new level. Please monitor this going forward.
Wait I don't get it isn't difficulty set by network?
February 09, 2018, 12:53:51 PM
Thanks Togo, this is what will make this project succeed!
February 09, 2018, 12:24:50 PM
TESTING PROOF-OF-DISTRIBUTED-COMPUTING:
Please join us in testing Proof-of-DC.
I think we will need at least 50 participants to join in, so we can work out all the bugs in each layer.
If we can get this going by mid March, we can potentially go live end of first quarter with it.
http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.msg1362#msg1362
We will need at least 10 sanctuaries set up in Testnet also. The SanctuaryQuorum needs set up on these Sancs.
Please join us in testing Proof-of-DC.
I think we will need at least 50 participants to join in, so we can work out all the bugs in each layer.
If we can get this going by mid March, we can potentially go live end of first quarter with it.
http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.msg1362#msg1362
We will need at least 10 sanctuaries set up in Testnet also. The SanctuaryQuorum needs set up on these Sancs.
"You may start your client in testnet by adding the "-testnet" suffix." ./biblepayd -testnet
In your biblepay.conf file, you can also add: testnet=1
When setting up a sanctuary (masternode) in testnet, also be aware that the port number is different, I think 40001 for testnet (vs 40000 for main/production)
and Watchman also has to be set to testnet in its config watchman.conf, have to uncomment network=testnet and comment network=mainnet
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Create_Masternode#BiblePay_Sanctuaries_Setup_-_Linux_Server
If you need test BBP coins (tBBP), just ask in the forums and someone will send you some
In your biblepay.conf file, you can also add: testnet=1
When setting up a sanctuary (masternode) in testnet, also be aware that the port number is different, I think 40001 for testnet (vs 40000 for main/production)
and Watchman also has to be set to testnet in its config watchman.conf, have to uncomment network=testnet and comment network=mainnet
http://wiki.biblepay.org/Create_Masternode#BiblePay_Sanctuaries_Setup_-_Linux_Server
If you need test BBP coins (tBBP), just ask in the forums and someone will send you some
What is Proof of Distributed Computing?
https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/7uzqlb/proof_of_distributed_computing_cancer_research/
We still need more Testers,
Goal is for 10 Sanctuaries and 50 Researchers,
So far we have 4+ Sanctuaries and 6+ Researchers
I will gladly vote to reward Testers in BBP for their time!
Testnet Explorer: https://testnet.biblepay-explorer.org/
Linux Hot Sanctuary: http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.msg1444#msg1444
Windows Wallet v1.0.8.8q: http://www.biblepay.org/#wallets-section
Testnet Testing Thread: http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.msg1362#msg1362
Here is a step by step guide Ive compiled: http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.msg1504#msg1504
February 09, 2018, 11:27:06 AM
I'll comment on the FUD in a minute, but on the Fake News comment:
Although I don't believe Donald Trump "was" a strong Christian over the years, with his past womanizing history and gambling casinos there is no reason to believe he has not repented and become a Christian lately. Expecially with Pence under him.
So, I believe the Fake News comments are True. They are Fake News because there is more evidence that a certain faction hates him and wants to hatch an evil plan to make him lose credibility. The news organization went downhill when Obama came in. The supermajority have a clear list of "illuminati approved" articles they are going to make the news with.
The Fake News is the news to drag Trump down.
Hes a man being controlled by God, through Gods grace he is in power - gracing the sinners a little more time to repent, before the whole house burns down.
That is absolutely correct comment. It's just sad that many Christians still cannot see that. Although I don't believe Donald Trump "was" a strong Christian over the years, with his past womanizing history and gambling casinos there is no reason to believe he has not repented and become a Christian lately. Expecially with Pence under him.
So, I believe the Fake News comments are True. They are Fake News because there is more evidence that a certain faction hates him and wants to hatch an evil plan to make him lose credibility. The news organization went downhill when Obama came in. The supermajority have a clear list of "illuminati approved" articles they are going to make the news with.
The Fake News is the news to drag Trump down.
Hes a man being controlled by God, through Gods grace he is in power - gracing the sinners a little more time to repent, before the whole house burns down.
February 09, 2018, 11:10:21 AM
bible_pay testing PODC=Proof od ditributed computing working good for now 
we will see
please: ppl try it in testnet: and anybody who want to try masternode in testnet-mode with testBBP can do it: price of maternode in testnet is 500k bbp ...
here is our forum
http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.0
we will see please: ppl try it in testnet: and anybody who want to try masternode in testnet-mode with testBBP can do it: price of maternode in testnet is 500k bbp ...
here is our forum
http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.0
February 09, 2018, 10:51:03 AM
Something strange is going on with the pool shares and logical machines.
Also, over 20% of my miners are now in the "My Missing Miners" section.
Yeah, last night I raised the minimum difficulty of the pool by 100% per share, as I thought too many small miners were solving shares.
Ok, I lowered it to in-between the old level and the new level. Please monitor this going forward.
February 09, 2018, 10:40:18 AM
Something strange is going on with the pool shares and logical machines.
Also, over 20% of my miners are now in the "My Missing Miners" section.
February 09, 2018, 10:35:29 AM
** IMPORTANT UPDATE **
I pushed out 1.0.8.8q yesterday with a sanctuary protocol version of 70716, however 99% of the prod network is on 70715 currently.
Normally this would be OK, as the client specifically honors version 70716 or *lower*, unless we issue a mandatory requiring 70716+.
But an issue has just been discovered, where clients who vote on proposals from 70716 - those votes are not being counted on 70715 sancs, this is apparently by design, but does not honor the design principle set in the rest of the code.
To combat this, since we are so close to the monthly superblock, I am going to *downgrade* 1.0.8.9 back to the 70715 sanctuary protocol version, so that our latest votes will tally correctly.
So in summary here is all you have to do in prod:
** Please do Not upgrade to 1.0.8.8q, wait until the next release **
** Do not Upgrade your Sanctuary to 1.0.8.8q **
** This should be ready in 4 hours **
** You only need the client if you are testing in testnet **
I pushed out 1.0.8.8q yesterday with a sanctuary protocol version of 70716, however 99% of the prod network is on 70715 currently.
Normally this would be OK, as the client specifically honors version 70716 or *lower*, unless we issue a mandatory requiring 70716+.
But an issue has just been discovered, where clients who vote on proposals from 70716 - those votes are not being counted on 70715 sancs, this is apparently by design, but does not honor the design principle set in the rest of the code.
To combat this, since we are so close to the monthly superblock, I am going to *downgrade* 1.0.8.9 back to the 70715 sanctuary protocol version, so that our latest votes will tally correctly.
So in summary here is all you have to do in prod:
** Please do Not upgrade to 1.0.8.8q, wait until the next release **
** Do not Upgrade your Sanctuary to 1.0.8.8q **
** This should be ready in 4 hours **
** You only need the client if you are testing in testnet **
February 09, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
ok 2 more people for shared MN payment 155k bbp! PM ME
February 09, 2018, 10:02:05 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing more information! I'm so happy day! Thanks.
Please help us in testnet by adding a Rosetta CPID:
http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=108.new#new
February 09, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
The bot net consists of multiple machines, if their hash power is too great they can split by making virtual machines.
This doesn't take away any of the concerns I have raised, you simply delete my post and ignore the problem.
Valid concern is not FUD it is valid concern, saying I'm biased, not giving an inch, all my posts are FUD these are simply personal attacks, fallacies I won't consider them as a valid argument.
You haven't provided any argument against the problems, nor will you be able to because decentralised consensus cannot depend on trust.
You cannot centralise a crypto currency on a single organisation especially not if they did not accept the position of responsibility.
I'll leave a link to a mirror of my previous post: https://web.archive.org/web/20180209120532/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg29924334
Sure, please leave the posts out of this forum, anyone who wants to read the FUD can read it.
For an unbiased view, I assert the following reason with 100% certainty the botnet is busted using this system:
In order to heat-mine in DC you must have an associated valid signed CPID, with > 10 RAC. (RAC means the level decays over time, so the machine must be working). You cannot solve a block unless you have not solved one within 10 blocks.
Adding this rule to testnet now.
It takes a few days to ramp up > 10 RAC, making the vector impossible to scale horizontally in reality (with multiple cpids and multiple VMs) , as it takes real power to maintain 10 RAC. If you are expending real power, you are cancer researching and you are not part of the botnet.
The botnet is busted with certainty.
Now please dont post any more fud here, this statement above is non-biased and true.
February 09, 2018, 09:56:22 AM
You said we cant enforce blocks solved by a CPID as anyone can forge the CPID:
-> Sorry, but this is also not true. Here is proof:
A) User signs up for Rosetta, as a cancer-researcher, receives a CPID. B) User associates CPID with Biblepay using our UI - this creates a burn transaction signed by their public BBP key. B1) Burns do not enter the chain unless verified as Owned by the owner (see our CPID advertisement protocol). C) We require CPIDs to POW-mine in the future. D) User must sign the blockindex with their public key and CPID and signature. E) Other nodes reject blocks that are not signed. F) No CPIDs may be re-used for a minimum of 10 blocks.
A) Easily done
B) So far no problem for the bot net
B1) Still no problem
C) They still got plenty of CPU to PoW mine
D) They will have both so they can do this
E) They won't be rejected because they will have steps A-D
F) Not a problem they will have multiple CPIDs
Botnet Busted. They cant mine, and they cant perform a 51% attack (because of DGW and the limiter rule).
They can easiliy split their hash power among as many virtual nodes as they'd like completely bypassing any such limit and still launch a 51% attack.
Only now most of the CPU power in the network is working on BOINC and not protecting the network against 51% attacks.
Swongel, you are acting like we are all idiots here. Everyone here can see through your one sided view - and we know you hate distributed computing already.
You arent giving an inch, and that proves its not an intelligent conversation to enter into, its one sided FUD.
On your CPID example above, that the botnet can split up CPIDs, no they cant. Of course, trying to be succinct I didnt fully clarify above "all cpids must have a minimum of 10 rac" OK, let me clarify, then all CPIDs that are heat mining must have 10 RAC. Its just not going to happen, because every CPID will take a minimum of a few days to generate 10 RAC, then its not a valid advertised DCC until its associated in the chain, and they just are not going to do it. If they take the time to maintain 10 RAC, then there *is* a valid machine behind that cpid, researching cancer.
Btw: that is the difference between "hard" and "easy". Your attack is not "easy" but "hard" now.
The bot net consists of multiple machines, if their hash power is too great they can split by making virtual machines.
This doesn't take away any of the concerns I have raised, you simply delete my post and ignore the problem.
Valid concern is not FUD it is valid concern, saying I'm biased, not giving an inch, all my posts are FUD these are simply personal attacks, fallacies I won't consider them as a valid argument.
You haven't provided any argument against the problems, nor will you be able to because decentralised consensus cannot depend on trust.
You cannot centralise a crypto currency on a single organisation especially not if they did not accept the position of responsibility.
I'll leave a link to a mirror of my previous post: https://web.archive.org/web/20180209120532/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2388064.msg29924334
February 09, 2018, 09:43:41 AM
what about bittrex, binance or at least cyryptopia 
Is it really hard to join that exchanges. What are they needed to add any coin?
$50,000 down plus 350 coin waiting list, plus no return emails even if you have the $50k Is it really hard to join that exchanges. What are they needed to add any coin?Oh I understood.
But I don't know the begining of the coin. How it can be possible to add C-Cex. Isn't it a popular and also big exchange too?Were on c-cex now.
February 09, 2018, 09:39:57 AM
You said we cant enforce blocks solved by a CPID as anyone can forge the CPID:
-> Sorry, but this is also not true. Here is proof:
A) User signs up for Rosetta, as a cancer-researcher, receives a CPID. B) User associates CPID with Biblepay using our UI - this creates a burn transaction signed by their public BBP key. B1) Burns do not enter the chain unless verified as Owned by the owner (see our CPID advertisement protocol). C) We require CPIDs to POW-mine in the future. D) User must sign the blockindex with their public key and CPID and signature. E) Other nodes reject blocks that are not signed. F) No CPIDs may be re-used for a minimum of 10 blocks.
A) Easily done
B) So far no problem for the bot net
B1) Still no problem
C) They still got plenty of CPU to PoW mine
D) They will have both so they can do this
E) They won't be rejected because they will have steps A-D
F) Not a problem they will have multiple CPIDs
Botnet Busted. They cant mine, and they cant perform a 51% attack (because of DGW and the limiter rule).
They can easiliy split their hash power among as many virtual nodes as they'd like completely bypassing any such limit and still launch a 51% attack.
Only now most of the CPU power in the network is working on BOINC and not protecting the network against 51% attacks.
Swongel, you are acting like we are all idiots here. Everyone here can see through your one sided view - and we know you hate distributed computing already.
You arent giving an inch, and that proves its not an intelligent conversation to enter into, its one sided FUD.
On your CPID example above, that the botnet can split up CPIDs, no they cant. Of course, trying to be succinct I didnt fully clarify above "all cpids must have a minimum of 10 rac" OK, let me clarify, then all CPIDs that are heat mining must have 10 RAC. Its just not going to happen, because every CPID will take a minimum of a few days to generate 10 RAC, then its not a valid advertised DCC until its associated in the chain, and they just are not going to do it. If they take the time to maintain 10 RAC, then there *is* a valid machine behind that cpid, researching cancer.
Btw: that is the difference between "hard" and "easy". Your attack is not "easy" but "hard" now.
February 09, 2018, 04:47:53 AM
3 spots left in shared MN 155k bbp each, you get 9.9% of revenue paid on weekly basis, 1% for hosting fees of all.
be QUICK!
be QUICK!
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