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legendary
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January 31, 2016, 04:43:15 AM
#56

That implies that the miners are confident that the price of bitcoin will rise so they invest a lot of money in the bitcoin.

Correct. But it also implies that there is more money invested in equipment that can do no other useful thing other than mining bitcoins and consequently the network is more secure and more valuable. Price follows value in the long run.
legendary
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January 31, 2016, 04:24:03 AM
#55

That implies that the miners are confident that the price of bitcoin will rise so they invest a lot of money in the bitcoin.

But i think right now the market is in the mood of correction last the bitcoin reached the low of $370 and now everyone is telling that bitcoin has got two support level on crash one is $350 and last is $320 if the last support is broke we can see the panic selling till $250
hero member
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January 31, 2016, 03:59:06 AM
#54

That implies that the miners are confident that the price of bitcoin will rise so they invest a lot of money in the bitcoin.
legendary
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January 25, 2016, 04:29:33 AM
#53
+7% incoming... -> https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty.

16th consecutive increase in difficulty.

So who said Bitcoin is dead?
legendary
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legendary
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January 18, 2016, 04:50:25 AM
#51
Bitcoin's market capitalization is currently around 6 billion USD. That looks like a lot but it is not. It is roughly the same as the average market cap for stocks in the Dow Jones index so it can be easily manipulated. Furthermore not being a regulated market it is certainly more exposed to all sort of deceptive and manipulative techniques some of which would be considered outright criminal activity in financial markets. In any case best think is to focus on fundamentals which continue to be bullish. Mining power continues to flock to the Bitcoin network so this dip is a nice opportunity to pile up some more coins.

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
legendary
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January 18, 2016, 04:36:40 AM
#50
years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of time this year alone, same thign will hapen for 1k
It depends on how adoption improves in 2016. I doubt that with the adoption as it is now and only due to halving we would go to $1k.
This is not gonna happen unless really big news hits the market. I am not saying it is impossible, but let's see how this year unfolds.

but you see 2015 in the end brought to us a nice 100%, increase why 2016 should not do the same when there are better proposals, a better sentiment overall(out of the bear market) and the halving is coming

if anything it should be more easy in 2016 to do another 100% than it was in 2015, with the bad sentiment

i'm not saying that this will happen in january, but we have 12 months for that it will certainly happen before december
2015 was in the end a very positive year reversing the 18 month long bear trend. That was great feat, no doubt about it.
The bear was long and moved the market into a very low levels, from which we rebounded. That was achieving a good increase in the yearly view was relatively easy.
Now however, I expect the things to be a bit more difficult. If we are to achieve a similar growth next year, we need to get some further reasons to sustain it.
I doubt the change in the sentiment (motivated mostly by the approaching halving event) would be enough for that.

I had the similar feeling. But Mike Hearn's comment drove the price down 20%. The bitcoin market is not mature. We also need to iimprove bitcoin further.

it's not mike hearn that did it, those are manipulater that take advantage of bad news to instigate a panic sell, simple as that

you can see instead that the market is still too young to not being easily manipulated
hero member
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January 18, 2016, 04:28:11 AM
#49
years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of time this year alone, same thign will hapen for 1k
It depends on how adoption improves in 2016. I doubt that with the adoption as it is now and only due to halving we would go to $1k.
This is not gonna happen unless really big news hits the market. I am not saying it is impossible, but let's see how this year unfolds.

but you see 2015 in the end brought to us a nice 100%, increase why 2016 should not do the same when there are better proposals, a better sentiment overall(out of the bear market) and the halving is coming

if anything it should be more easy in 2016 to do another 100% than it was in 2015, with the bad sentiment

i'm not saying that this will happen in january, but we have 12 months for that it will certainly happen before december
2015 was in the end a very positive year reversing the 18 month long bear trend. That was great feat, no doubt about it.
The bear was long and moved the market into a very low levels, from which we rebounded. That was achieving a good increase in the yearly view was relatively easy.
Now however, I expect the things to be a bit more difficult. If we are to achieve a similar growth next year, we need to get some further reasons to sustain it.
I doubt the change in the sentiment (motivated mostly by the approaching halving event) would be enough for that.

I had the similar feeling. But Mike Hearn's comment drove the price down 20%. The bitcoin market is not mature. We also need to iimprove bitcoin further.
legendary
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January 03, 2016, 04:42:40 AM
#48
Difficulty reached a new high with biggest ever increase. Bitcoin price can only go in one direction in the medium term.

https://blockchain.info/charts/difficulty?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

The most devastating factor for the mining and the miners. Halving is nothing compared to the difficulty. Something that cannot be predicted never make every kind of investment made in  this field or work seems like gambling. Or better, every kind of use of money in this field or work is for sure gambling. Who don't want to understand this mean that don't want or don't know to reasoning. Fortunately that are people who like gambling (first time that I not only don't attack the gambling but want and incite the contrary), who have not to many knowledge about it or are effected by the beauty of mining, otherwise who will mine would be only the owners of the pools.
uki
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 02:05:25 PM
#47
years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of time this year alone, same thign will hapen for 1k
It depends on how adoption improves in 2016. I doubt that with the adoption as it is now and only due to halving we would go to $1k.
This is not gonna happen unless really big news hits the market. I am not saying it is impossible, but let's see how this year unfolds.

but you see 2015 in the end brought to us a nice 100%, increase why 2016 should not do the same when there are better proposals, a better sentiment overall(out of the bear market) and the halving is coming

if anything it should be more easy in 2016 to do another 100% than it was in 2015, with the bad sentiment

i'm not saying that this will happen in january, but we have 12 months for that it will certainly happen before december
2015 was in the end a very positive year reversing the 18 month long bear trend. That was great feat, no doubt about it.
The bear was long and moved the market into a very low levels, from which we rebounded. That was achieving a good increase in the yearly view was relatively easy.
Now however, I expect the things to be a bit more difficult. If we are to achieve a similar growth next year, we need to get some further reasons to sustain it.
I doubt the change in the sentiment (motivated mostly by the approaching halving event) would be enough for that.
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 11:21:32 AM
#46
years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of time this year alone, same thign will hapen for 1k
It depends on how adoption improves in 2016. I doubt that with the adoption as it is now and only due to halving we would go to $1k.
This is not gonna happen unless really big news hits the market. I am not saying it is impossible, but let's see how this year unfolds.

but you see 2015 in the end brought to us a nice 100%, increase why 2016 should not do the same when there are better proposals, a better sentiment overall(out of the bear market) and the halving is coming

if anything it should be more easy in 2016 to do another 100% than it was in 2015, with the bad sentiment

i'm not saying that this will happen in january, but we have 12 months for that it will certainly happen before december
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 09:31:20 AM
#45
years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of time this year alone, same thign will hapen for 1k
It depends on how adoption improves in 2016. I doubt that with the adoption as it is now and only due to halving we would go to $1k.
This is not gonna happen unless really big news hits the market. I am not saying it is impossible, but let's see how this year unfolds.

I fully agree. One thing we need to consider though is the greed and publicity, a dynamic that will kick in short before the reward halving. We will see many more news reports and we should not underestimate the greed of people who never took BTC seriously before but start to believe in its potential to make quick cash due to the promise of halving. You and me know the halving will not change how many bitcoins will be available over night. Unless demand goes up there will still be 15 million coins out there to trade. It will take many months or even years before the halving will have any effect on the (slightly reduced but still larger) supply. It's all psychological. If many more people realize this, there will be no ATH anytime soon.
uki
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 08:40:29 AM
#44
years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of time this year alone, same thign will hapen for 1k
It depends on how adoption improves in 2016. I doubt that with the adoption as it is now and only due to halving we would go to $1k.
This is not gonna happen unless really big news hits the market. I am not saying it is impossible, but let's see how this year unfolds.
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 08:30:26 AM
#43
1000 is not impossible in ky book
It is not impossible but it will take years to get there unless some big event happens to have this happening.
Then it will rise and continue to rise to the moon some say. But this is my pure speculation of course.

years just for 1k? no way, 1k is nothing, it can be achieved this year, with the halving easily

they said that 500 would take years to reach when we were at 230, see now we touched it plenty of times this year alone, same thing will happen for 1k
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 08:00:58 AM
#42
I think the days of insane price rises are over, seems bitcoin is taking much slower movements now, I know it can still be quite volatile but nothing compared to what its been like in the past. thats how it should be .
uki
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 06:19:24 AM
#41
If they spent so much in a Bitcoin mining farm, then they must have a good reason to believe the price will increase, and I think they have more information than we.

So I think it is bullish, but not because of the rise itself
it may be also purely speculation story. The investment may already bring the return with the rise to $500-600, taking into account the scale. No need to attack higher if you may cash the profits there, then drive down the price to $350-400 and repeat the procedure.
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 01:47:08 AM
#40
I dont know why $500 seems to be such a hard number to get to, it looks like we are slowly climbing though. Would be a good start to 2016 if we broke $500 in january which isnt impossible.

The way up for bitcoin will not be easy even though that's the clear trend in the medium and long term.
The main factor pushing prices down are miners having to convert part of their newly minted coins to fiat to pay for business expenses like for example electricity. Even if they can pay for new equipment with BTC these coins will still need to go to fiat for similar reason at some point.
hero member
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January 01, 2016, 09:16:01 PM
#39
1000 is not impossible in ky book
It is not impossible but it will take years to get there unless some big event happens to have this happening.
Then it will rise and continue to rise to the moon some say. But this is my pure speculation of course.
legendary
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January 01, 2016, 08:17:01 PM
#38
If they spent so much in a Bitcoin mining farm, then they must have a good reason to believe the price will increase, and I think they have more information than we.

So I think it is bullish, but not because of the rise itself
legendary
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January 01, 2016, 08:15:41 PM
#37
I dont know why $500 seems to be such a hard number to get to, it looks like we are slowly climbing though. Would be a good start to 2016 if we broke $500 in january which isnt impossible.

of course $500 isn't impossible to reach. you only must not forget that there are large traders that bought their coins well below sub $300. as soon as you see the price come closer to the $500 price level, you see it goes down again. too many people are waiting to sell at this point. as soon as they have taken all their profits, then the price will go through the $500 barrier.
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